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Topic: Freeze them co2 tanks
Posted By: Justice
Subject: Freeze them co2 tanks
Date Posted: 30 October 2004 at 6:56pm

Allot of you may allready know this, but I've noticed an influx of new players to the forums so here is some friendly advice for you folks that use c02.

Put your tanks in the freezer and get them nice and cold. When you bring them to where ever you get them filled, keep them in a cooler with some cold packs until you are ready to fill them.

The reason why is because you get a better fill if your co2 tanks are chilled. You get more gas less liquid. I do beieve which in turn gives you a better fill.



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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 30 October 2004 at 6:58pm
May I ask where did you get this info?

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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 30 October 2004 at 7:01pm

From observing others and asking questions.

Why am I wrong? If so sorry, just trying to help.



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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 30 October 2004 at 7:06pm
NOTE: DO NOT DO THIS ACTION UNLESS Co2 CONTAINERS ARE COMPLETELY EMPTY!

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Posted By: cockerkilla99
Date Posted: 30 October 2004 at 7:08pm
^^^ he's correct it works, but like rockerdude said, unless COMPLETLY empty.

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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 30 October 2004 at 7:11pm

Yeah I allways empty my tanks before I want them refilled.

Thanks for the aditional input doode.



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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 30 October 2004 at 7:13pm
Yes, when its empty but, it doesnt say chill it in the fridge prior to filling.

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Posted By: triggerhappy1
Date Posted: 30 October 2004 at 7:26pm

you want more liquid than gas in it to get more shots. the liquid turns into gas. more gas than liquid, less shots. more liquid, more potential gas.

its like propane, would you rather have a half full tank with more gas than liquid, or a full tank with more liquid which will turn into a gas?



Posted By: Kevin Z
Date Posted: 30 October 2004 at 7:34pm

When you take them to get filled the tech will empty the remaining CO2 first, chilling the tank. It is not necessary to freeze first, nor empty the leftover CO2 before going.

The deal is that the liquid CO2 will hit the warm tank and immediately evaporate, pressurizing the tank and no more transfer can take place.
So the tank needs to be cold to minimize evaporation so the tank can be filled with liquid before the pressure gets high enough to equalize.

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Posted By: roadrunner0535
Date Posted: 30 October 2004 at 7:40pm
dude...that is so tarded...u want more liquid...that's y when guys fill ur tanks upside down...u gotta flip cuz they putting no creme in ur tanks

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Posted By: BigGun
Date Posted: 30 October 2004 at 9:29pm
I haven't met a person yet that has filled my tanks right. I guess i'll just have to go buy the stuff to do it myself.

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Posted By: borntopaint
Date Posted: 30 October 2004 at 9:43pm
ya be careful when doing this   i have found that it doesn't really matter that much in the long run  and that freezing the tanks can allow crystals of water condensation to get inside the tank and when it mixes with the Co2 it creates an acidic solution that will damage the tank and can actually eat the insides away and make it blow up in a worst case senario    (this is just in case ne body wondered why they needed to empty the tanks first and why this is a little dangerous)    but hey just take it to a paintshop instead of sports authority or somewhere like that and they will use a guage  like they are supposed to 

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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 30 October 2004 at 9:47pm
Originally posted by rockerdoode rockerdoode wrote:

NOTE: DO NOT DO THIS ACTION UNLESS Co2 CONTAINERS ARE COMPLETELY EMPTY!



Uhhhhhhhhhhh

co2 expands with HEAT...

I wouldnt bother, unless your field is run by a bunch of amateur morons that dont chill the tank themselves.


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Posted By: happyhour00780
Date Posted: 05 November 2004 at 2:33pm

most legitimate paintball fillers can do a complete fill if they are willing to lose a little CO2 in the process.  The filler will usually dump the remaining CO2 that is in the bottle.  Then do a partial fill and dump that out as well.  This how they chill the tanks, since evaporating CO2 chills the bottles.  However, I do my own fills for three reasons.  First, I know I will get a full fill.  Secondly, it is an inconvenience for me do drive an hour one way to get it done by someone else that might not give me a complete fill.  And thirdly, cost.  I can get approximately 60 20oz fills from 75lb bulk tank for $30.  To pay someone to do the filling for me, it would cost about $180 to $240 for that many fills.  And not to mention, it is on hand.  So anytime I need to fill a tank, I can. 

But regarding freezing your tanks first:  I have been freezing my tanks for a few months now and have not had any problems.  I get a full fill out of it without wasting any CO2 than I have to.  Of course, I always drain my tanks before freezing them.  I don't want a chunk of dry ice in their when I dump the remaining out and it is already frozen.

I feel the benefits of doing it myself is worth it.  However, this is not something anyone should think they can just do it.  Things that are required to do fills:  Bulk CO2 source, an approved filling station for CO2, and definitely a scale.  I have seen people not use a scale to fill their tanks and then have seen those tank's burst disks go.  luckily that was the most of it.  There is also alot of reading material on CO2 pressures in relation to temperature and proper ways to do the fills.  I recomend everyone who thinks they can fill a tank understand this and is trained by experienced personel first.

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Posted By: ritzblitz
Date Posted: 05 November 2004 at 4:01pm
^^ whoa that rubiks cube number is huge! i only know how to count to a trillion lol

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Posted By: ekeboo
Date Posted: 05 November 2004 at 4:20pm

Originally posted by Kevin Z Kevin Z wrote:


When you take them to get filled the tech will empty the remaining CO2 first, chilling the tank. It is not necessary to freeze first, nor empty the leftover CO2 before going.

The deal is that the liquid CO2 will hit the warm tank and immediately evaporate, pressurizing the tank and no more transfer can take place.
So the tank needs to be cold to minimize evaporation so the tank can be filled with liquid before the pressure gets high enough to equalize.

this guy knows what hes talkin about and the field or shop should chill the tank for you if they dont, dont go there agian unless you have to



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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 05 November 2004 at 11:35pm
well, id have to say, enos, that my feild is run by complete idiots...so dont blame me...lol

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Posted By: Robert_Hawker
Date Posted: 06 November 2004 at 1:38am

Ahem you want liquid in your tanks not in your gun.

if you got less liquid in your tank you will get less shots out of the same tank. its actualy a prity eligant system if you take the time to figure it out.

Chilling is only a factor if your filling your own tanks so you can get more fills out of a 100lb tank. i personaly dont botherhowever having too much liquid in a tank can be a problem too. if you get to much you will tend to such allot into your gun unless you run remote and are standing. if there is a single drop of liquid in your tank its at 800ish psi any way.

as for the acid thing i never knew that i think im gunna hydro my tanks now just to be shure. hay you may have saved a life today... you never know?



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Posted By: paintballer2584
Date Posted: 06 November 2004 at 12:15pm
Originally posted by Justice Justice wrote:

From observing others and asking questions.

Why am I wrong? If so sorry, just trying to help.

no your right i do it it does give you a better fill

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