schwarzenegger 4 prez?
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Topic: schwarzenegger 4 prez?
Posted By: roadrunner0535
Subject: schwarzenegger 4 prez?
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:23pm
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has ny1 heard that congress mite let arnold schwarzenegger run 4 prez in 2008 or 2012 cuz hes done such a good job in california? plz post ny objections/pros/cons of this...i want full opinions on this ------------- 98c seclusion 14" dye ultralite rufus dawg 2x stick trigg remote full-auto mod http://roadrunnerpaintball.mypicgallery.com/mpg/Route.asp - My 98C 100% smart parts |
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Posted By: dye4dom420
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:24pm
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Hastalivista....baby.
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Posted By: Bunker_Attack
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:27pm
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He wont even be alive in 2012 ------------- 
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Posted By: LordCaliber
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:27pm
any one heard of the movie called demolation man that predicted that arnold would be president lol  thats gonna be funny if he runs and wins america probably be laughed at alitte
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Posted By: 98God
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:28pm
| hes not american |
Posted By: Solipsism
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:28pm
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please type using English so everyone can understand you.
Its not happening unless the constitution is amended, and good luck with that happening anytime soon. -------------  http://solipsism.ath.cx - solipsism.ath.cx |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:28pm
| Isn't he not able to do that since he wasn't born in the country? Governor is ok, but prez has to be born here I thought.. |
Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:29pm
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It won't happen. There is no chance in hell.
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Posted By: roadrunner0535
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:29pm
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that's y i said that congress was thinking of letting him run...u no, make an exception ------------- 98c seclusion 14" dye ultralite rufus dawg 2x stick trigg remote full-auto mod http://roadrunnerpaintball.mypicgallery.com/mpg/Route.asp - My 98C 100% smart parts |
98God wrote:Posted By: Badsmitty
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:29pm
| Well, why not. All it takes is an amendment to the Constitution. It's all the rage now-a-days. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:31pm
rofl |
Posted By: boomstick
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:35pm
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No. It's impossible.
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:39pm
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If there's a Constitutional Amendment, he might be able to do it. However, Constitutional Amendments are very difficult to introduce/ratify.
Congress can't "make an exception." Congress doesn't control the Constitution, nor does the Constitution give them the power to "make exceptions." At the present moment, it would be 100% impossible to run Arnold for President. He does not meet the basic requirements to run for that office. ------------- 
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Posted By: roadrunner0535
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:40pm
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it is possible..and i hope they let him...cuz in 2008 on election day...i will be 18 by like 2 months...99% chance that i'd vote 4 him...cuz the way he fixed up calif's gov't ------------- 98c seclusion 14" dye ultralite rufus dawg 2x stick trigg remote full-auto mod http://roadrunnerpaintball.mypicgallery.com/mpg/Route.asp - My 98C 100% smart parts |
Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:43pm
| i think rudy guilanni(dont know how you spell it) should run. he did a great job after 9/11(my moms b-day!!!!!!!!). i think hed make a great pres. |
Posted By: I <3 my A5
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:44pm
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Giving him an "exception" would be against everything America stands for. If people could make "exceptions" to the constitutions i wouldnt even consider this to be a somewhat free country, because as leftist as my opinion is lets just face the facts. America is not a totally free country. ------------- Smoking Jesus causes testicular cancer. XBL Gamertag: Velcronia for Halo 2 |
Posted By: roadrunner0535
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:48pm
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it should be...we actully have a chance to become a full democracy like canada...isn't it scary how politically aware a 14-year-old is? ------------- 98c seclusion 14" dye ultralite rufus dawg 2x stick trigg remote full-auto mod http://roadrunnerpaintball.mypicgallery.com/mpg/Route.asp - My 98C 100% smart parts |
Posted By: I <3 my A5
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:52pm
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No, and quit trying to get attention by quoting your age. Just cause you can spit back a few things you heard from your social studies class doesn't make you politicaly aware. And, too much democracy can be a very dangerous thing. So I think our idea of a representitive democracy is the best way to go. But then you have to deal with politicians. So, there are pro's and con's. ------------- Smoking Jesus causes testicular cancer. XBL Gamertag: Velcronia for Halo 2 |
Posted By: roadrunner0535
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:56pm
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dude...we don't even vote for a prez...we vote for a party and electoral college gets 2 pic whos prez....we need a lil' more of a democracy...and i didn't take this from social studies...i learning about ancient civilization in the middle east(check...9th grade nj state curriculum) ------------- 98c seclusion 14" dye ultralite rufus dawg 2x stick trigg remote full-auto mod http://roadrunnerpaintball.mypicgallery.com/mpg/Route.asp - My 98C 100% smart parts |
Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 8:58pm
No, it is NOT possible at the current moment. If there was a Constitutional Amendment, it would be possible for him to run. Until that day, he cannot. Go read the Constitution and be quiet until you know what you're talking about. -------------
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 9:01pm
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I have no idea of his politics but the fact that he disagrees with Bush
on a lot of major issues and is still supporting him because he's
republican makes me squirm....That and he's a tool for the bush
campaign who obviously has no idea about what he's talking
about...."Don't be an economic girly man!"...ok, so don't be an whimp,
forget about all the job loss going on and the tax breaks for shipping
our jobs to other countries? That makes since....but I'm not gonna get
into bush right now....
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Posted By: I <3 my A5
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 9:01pm
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Did I say I liked the electoral college? I said a direct democracy could be dangerous, but in this case I think it would be the better way to go. ------------- Smoking Jesus causes testicular cancer. XBL Gamertag: Velcronia for Halo 2 |
Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 9:05pm
I'd say it's a lot more frightening that you cannot spell. It also sounds like you've never read the Constitution, and have no real grasp on how the United States Government operates. Want to start discussing government? I don't want to make you look like more of an idiot than you've already done by yourself, but I can if you want... -------------
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Posted By: roadrunner0535
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 9:07pm
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omg...how many times have i said..."make an exception" in other werds...constitututional amendment...and i don't need to read the constituion...i no it by heart ------------- 98c seclusion 14" dye ultralite rufus dawg 2x stick trigg remote full-auto mod http://roadrunnerpaintball.mypicgallery.com/mpg/Route.asp - My 98C 100% smart parts |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 9:09pm
| Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) has been proposing a constitutional amendment for some time to allow foreign-born people to run for President after they have been citizens for 20 years. Schwarzenegger became a citizen in 1983 or so... |
Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 9:15pm
Alright, I can just pretend that "make an exception" bears some resemblence to "make a Constitutional Amendment," even though it's not the same thing by any stretch of the imagination. However, if you "no" (know, for those who speak English) the Constitution by heart, then you would "no" that Congress cannot pass a Constitutional Amendment. It must first be introduced (which CAN be done in Congress), and then ratified (which must be done by the states). The chances of that happening by 2008 are Slim to none, and Slim just left the room... -------------
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Posted By: fatty
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 9:44pm
terrible the electoral college is a system, it doesnt just pic who's pres we vote for who we want to be president and who ever wins in each state is the way our senators and reps are supposed to vote thats why you always see them campaigning in states like ohio, pennsylvania, and florida because they have more sen. and reps to vote in the college ------------- 
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Posted By: Slothbutt
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 9:56pm
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He would win if they let him run.
He is charismatic and moderate. He got elected as a Republican in CA, where Gore won by 12% in 2000. ------------- http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/2688/3guns27ef.jpg - My Paintball Guns http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2711/arand9mmak9.jpg - New "Toys" |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 9:59pm
| I agree completely. Schwarzenegger is very electable nationwide. He might lose the Bible belt and New York, but would win everywhere else... |
Posted By: cadet_sergeant
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 10:04pm
| it wont happen, just like **edited** marrage wont be alowed. if we were all perfict then we should just have a dictatorship (maybe an aligarcy SP?) if you think about it comunizum is the best forum of goverment the reason its so hated is how imperfict we all are, GO US!!! anyway vote Pepiton 2028 for prez. |
Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 10:09pm
What's scary is how naive, arrogant, and apparently illiterate a fourteen year old is. ------------- 
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 10:09pm
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Homosexual marriage "wont be alowed?" Er... It's already legal in Massachusetts.
I tend to agree, though - it is unlikely that the Constitution will be amended in time for Ahnold. It would be really funny, though, given Demolition Man. :) |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 10:23pm
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You have to wonder what state this country is in to not even be able to elect a naturally born citizen to be the supreme ruler.
Not that I am against it but still... ------------- 
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Posted By: Solipsism
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 10:32pm
Uhm no, California has the largest amount of electroal votes 57 to be exact, thats 55 members of the house and 2 senators. to be elected president you need about 237 minimum i believe it is i'd have to double check. They campaign in thos states because they are swing states, why waste money campaigning in a state you know you're going to win? And the popular vote is for the candidate not for the party. In MOST states but not all if the electors vote against what the people vote they are fined and given jail time. California is one of those states. Very few states have "faithless electors" as they're called. In my opinion the electoral college is absolute crap. I expect we'll have another election this year like we did in 2000 where the candidate who won the popular vote wasn't elected president. Its happened about 3 times now... ------------- http://solipsism.ath.cx - solipsism.ath.cx |
Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 11:16pm
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I think Arnold would be a great president, but he happened to be born in Austria. So i dont think he'll be elected anytime soon. I've heard rumors about them changing that though. Anyways hes doing a good job as governor. Also, whoever said America should be fully democratic country like Canada, think that through. Does Canada look like they're better off than the US? No. ------------- 
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 11:17pm
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I am not sure Arnold wants to be President. I was under the impression he just wants to balance California's budget and not run again in the next election.
Plus, We still need his schedule free so there can be a Terminator 4. -------------
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 11:47pm
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------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition! 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 11:48pm
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Never would america stand for it, California, its a well, special state. I mean, gary coleman ran for office, along with a porn star and Galager the comedian with a big hammer. I just thank god that the rest of the country isnt like California ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors"> 
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 11:52pm
Can you imagine Gary Coleman as the President of the United States ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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Posted By: newport
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 11:53pm
Dude, California is the greatest state in this country. Arnold would make a marvelous President, and I hope that somehow that manages to happen in the near future. ------------- 
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 11:54pm
Wha chu talk about? 
Yeah for Cali, except Barbara Boxer and Diane Fienstine. -------------
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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 11:56pm
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and i bet he was actually reading out of his S.S. book and paraphrasing just so he wouldnt make an ass out of himself...lol just kidding dude. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 11:57pm
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Dont say Diane Feinstien in my presence....I cant stand that Phyllis Diller lookalike....oops I mean Joan Crawford. ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 11:57pm
I would so vote for gallagher... ------------- 
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 11:58pm
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If it comforts you any, I always vote against her. -------------
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 02 November 2004 at 12:04am
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Ok, thats much better. ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 02 November 2004 at 8:40am
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He was just quoted in the paper a few days ago that he would "absolutely" run for Pres if he could... |
Posted By: MROD
Date Posted: 02 November 2004 at 12:12pm
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Even though it is impossible at thep resent day, if he won the presidency I would leave the country. ------------- I need to find smaller pictures for my profile. |
Posted By: RollnROCK89i
Date Posted: 02 November 2004 at 1:02pm
| Why? He's done a pretty good job in Cal, and would probably be a better prez than kerry or bush |
Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 02 November 2004 at 1:17pm
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You guys are missing that the Senators and Representatives are NOT the
Electoral College. The College is based on the numbers of Congress. Each party then nominates, from within it's own most loyal members, those who will vote. For example, CT has 7 votes. If kerry wins CT, the 7 dem's will vote. Each one gets a single vote. If Bush wins CT (good luck), then the 7 elected party members of the republicans will each cast a vote for pres and VP. They are supposed to vote for their party, and some states have laws mandating that they must, but others do not. I think I covered that. Prolly forgot something. edit: Oh yeah. Out of 538 electoral votes, you must get 270 to win. |
Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 02 November 2004 at 2:33pm
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Thank God SOMEONE payed attention in Civics class (Frozen Balls).
I'd say about 95% of the people on this forum (and in the nation itself) have no idea how the US Government actually works. -------------
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 02 November 2004 at 2:52pm
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I happen to be proud that i know very little of our governemnt..... ...sad thing is, as little as i know, i prolly konw more than most. ------------- 
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 02 November 2004 at 2:57pm
Know your friends well, and your enemies better. Not knowing about the single most pervasive part of your life isn't something to be proud of. -------------
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Posted By: roadrunner0535
Date Posted: 02 November 2004 at 3:38pm
i no some stuff bout the gov't...i jsut fergot a lot of it...but here's another question... Do you think America is a "melting pot" or a "mosiac"?...(do think we are a nation that is all the same/untied or with all diff kinds of people standing out?) ------------- 98c seclusion 14" dye ultralite rufus dawg 2x stick trigg remote full-auto mod http://roadrunnerpaintball.mypicgallery.com/mpg/Route.asp - My 98C 100% smart parts |