I must be the only one confused about how it fires with electronics.

It has to have some kindof propulsion.

Enos Shenk wrote: Posting an idea for a gun with absolutely no details is an excercise in pointlessness. What am i supposed to say? "good"?

I gave you details without giving you the design itself. I told you it would provide similar rates of fire, possibly more accuracy, very low noise, and didn't require air...I just didn't say how it achieved these things. The design is actually fairly simple which is why I can't be too specific or else it can easily be copied and somebody else could steal it from me. What I need to know is if a gun that can provide these things is of interest to players. If it is then I will try to make it available on the market and if not then I'll keep it for myself. Enos, I'm not sure why you felt the need to try and make me look like a moron but I think your plan backfired. My intent wasn't to get opinions on the design, I need to know if those qualities are what players are looking for in a gun. Anyway, I have 2 or 3 ways to achieve these things in mind and I'm not sure which I'll stick with but if the idea sounds appealing to most of you I might give a little more detail.

If I get to the point where I have a finalized design and a patent on the idea then I'll share it all here but until then I'd rather not reveal the specifics yet.

Im goin out on a limb here, and saying its a solenoid that pushes the ball out the barrel. In which case it would deform a ball just as much if not more than gas.

I dont believe you have a real idea, and is full of crap.

Im votin shins on this one.

OK if its electric purely you are going electro mechanical.

Soleniod would work but would have a slow rate of fire or high enegy requirements as you have to also pull hte slug from the core back also which means your charging the action both ways and most likely a capacitor charging time to meet your voltage requirments.    20oz pack aint going to cut it for very long

ONe way to redux the action would be to have the firing action be stored in a spring that you pull with the slug in the coil.   We are getting bulky and risk possible misfires if the field fails to hold it back.

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It may even have slightly more accuracy since you no longer have things like turbulence inside the barrel or deformation of the ball due to a blast of air

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   not possible the barrel is there for a reason and even your railgun or crossbow design need a guide.   Tippmann uses a 8in barrel because it works to stablize the action.    And don't forget deformation starts behind the bll but is also in front of the ball.

Also if you are making a railgun to fire paint.  Anyone could change the pwoer supply and fire slugs though body armmor and not sports company will touch your idea.... if it works call NSA

Enos Shenk wrote: Why does everyone think im flaming people lately. I wasnt trying to make you look like a moron, i was stating a fact. If you come on and post "ive got this idea, this is what it will do" nobody can help you in any way besides saying "good for you". If you can do it, cool. I mean, what else can i say.

Well then I apologize. Online conversations leave a lot of room for misunderstanding and I guess the way you word things gives off the wrong idea sometimes.

In response to others: There will still be a barrel on the gun. I meant that there would be no extra turbulence in the barrel since there wouldn't be a blast of air in the gun anymore. With current guns the ball is blasted from behind with air as you all know but some of this air goes around the ball and gets in front of it, causing turbulence. That is the air that I was talking about eliminating. There will still be air resistance due to the speed of the ball but it will be lessened since you aren't adding anymore air in the path of the ball. Technically you could put other ammo types in this gun and fire them but then again you could do that with current guns too. I could easily take my 98 outside and start firing marbles or frozen paint.

The power supply might have to be watched more closely though now that you mention it. This would be the equivalent of people intentionally shooting hot with current guns which is hard to monitor but with electronics I think we can control it more. If voltage is regulated internally or a fuse is put inside (or both) then it's possible to make an alternate power supply unusable or impractical enough that the person won't try it. I'm glad you brought this up because I'll have to change the design a little to protect against this. Still, it's no different than people turning their velocity up on air powered guns now so it's no more dangerous than what we're using today. Also, not everybody knows how to change the power supply or even that doing this could yield higher velocities so we have that helping us too.

I would most definitely have rechargeable batteries on this thing since batteries will be the life force of this gun. I have two ideas for the battery situation depending on how much life you get from each. If you get about the same amount of shots per battery as you do from an average sized tank (full) then I will use my first idea which is to have two batteries in the gun (assuming they're small like a 9v) and allow you to flip a switch to change batteries in mid game. That would let you continue to play after your battery dies until the game is over and then you could swap the dead one and continue with your backup battery. Basically you would never have to stop playing because of a dead battery with this setup. The second idea would be to just have a couple rechargeable batteries that you charge before you go to the field and then carry them on you and change as needed. A larger battery pack could be made too if power consumption is a real problem. It could either be mounted on the gun or connected with a wire and used like a remote setup. None of these are final, just ideas. I personally like the first one with the dual batteries and I'll try to use that. Any other ideas are welcome.