New Gun
Printed From: Tippmann Paintball
Category: Paintball Equipment
Forum Name: Which Gun is Best
Forum Description: Need Advice? Ask the pros.
URL: http://www.tippmannsports.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=117865
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Topic: New Gun
Posted By: BuffaloSolda1
Subject: New Gun
Date Posted: 05 November 2004 at 6:04pm
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I am thinking of getting another gun with the money from a summer job. I want it to be high end. It needs to be fast, accurate, consistent,and quiet. My budget is $600 and up. Any suggestions? Please tell me the pros and cons of the guns. Thanks in advance!! ------------- TK by PB4MS.COM |
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Posted By: gnarkill
Date Posted: 05 November 2004 at 6:06pm
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do you have a compressed air tank if so what size and psi? 600 and up? whats the max amount of money you`ll spend? what position do you play? ------------- 
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Posted By: BuffaloSolda1
Date Posted: 05 November 2004 at 6:10pm
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Im getting a 68/4500 Crossfire. Up to $1300. All positions. ------------- TK by PB4MS.COM |
Posted By: tippmann_kid
Date Posted: 05 November 2004 at 6:12pm
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dm5 dm4 are quiet and accurate and the dm4 gets about 1400-1500 shots off the 68 4500
the alias timmy is nice fast consistent and pretty quiet but not as quiet as the dm4 or dm5 what size tank u have it depends on what size u have so i can tell u how many shots they get ------------- HK ARMY |
Posted By: BuffaloSolda1
Date Posted: 05 November 2004 at 6:16pm
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What markers can I get for $600-1100? ------------- TK by PB4MS.COM |
Posted By: AFritz
Date Posted: 05 November 2004 at 6:29pm
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get a shocker, there lite fast accurate and small ------------- Cash Money Impulse w/ Freak Barrel Dye Stickies WAS EQ Board --Coming Soon-- CP Roller Custom Laser Engraving |
Posted By: BuffaloSolda1
Date Posted: 05 November 2004 at 6:30pm
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Anything but something from Smart Parts. ------------- TK by PB4MS.COM |
Posted By: P8ntblldude
Date Posted: 05 November 2004 at 7:07pm
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E-orracle! There light, fast, quiet, and accurate. ------------- *Team Compulsive* Sponsors *Won-Ago-Biking* *Curleys Waterfront* |
Posted By: paintballer2584
Date Posted: 05 November 2004 at 7:40pm
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tippmann_kid wrote:Posted By: tippmann_kid
Date Posted: 05 November 2004 at 9:53pm
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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 05 November 2004 at 11:09pm
| DM4/DM5 are both nice, but a little pricy. I'd suggest either a Shocker, or an E-bladed autococker; Fireball Mountain makes some super cool custom ones, I live near them and get to see all their stuff, it's incredible (go to www.fireballmountain.com and go into the products area). Also, look at the ANS GX series, as well as the Karnivor, the Orracle, and even the Outkast. They're all great, really upgradeable guns which are light, fast, and crazy accurate. |
Posted By: and10217
Date Posted: 05 November 2004 at 11:35pm
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DM3. or just try out different things and get what you like the most. ------------- http://tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=126701&PN=3 - Oh yes i did. |
Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 06 November 2004 at 12:30am
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Freestyle, Cyborg, 2k2 Intimidator, ECX Intimidator, Chris Lasoya Intimidator, Storm Intimidator, Specias Alien Intimidator, NightKast, Superstock, Karnivore, Matrix, Dm4, E-Mag, Evil Pimp, B2k4, Angel 05 Speed Take your pick.... ------------- 
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Posted By: HK_ARMY
Date Posted: 06 November 2004 at 3:57pm
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i've got a lasoya and its pretty nice Dm4 right now are 1150 and DM5 are way outa your price range If you have a local proshop go to it and ask if you can shoot the guns you like and go by that. Guns are preference, your feel for say a shocker could be different than mine. When you get into the higher end guns they all shoot fast it is just ur preference. ------------- www.HKarmy.com |
Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 06 November 2004 at 4:28pm
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cyborg. ------------- 
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Posted By: paintballa14
Date Posted: 06 November 2004 at 6:40pm
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i would get a dm5 or a dm4. if not, i would for sure buy a russian legion timmy, or some other timmy ------------- doesent my sig suck? |
Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 06 November 2004 at 7:04pm
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Cyborgs are nice, Freestlye, Karni's are probally my favorite egun out there, or you can get a semi custom emag right from agd for a short time ------------- Smart Parts, Stupid People... Go figure Shoot To Thrill on stockclass, mcarter, and the dreadful pbn Carter Mini Comp, Carter Tricar, PPS Blazer |
Posted By: MoNTYandTIMMoN
Date Posted: 07 November 2004 at 8:10am
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id say, go with a matrix or a cheap timmy. I myself am saving up fro a texas storm timmy. ------------- 
Do not tempt the lord! MoNTYtheLoRD |
Posted By: BuffaloSolda1
Date Posted: 07 November 2004 at 3:22pm
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Im stuck between a Cyborg, Freestyle, ECX Timmy, 2k2 Timmy,
Shocker Vision, Nightcast,or maybe a low priced Matrix. Any comments on these? ------------- TK by PB4MS.COM |
Posted By: BuffaloSolda1
Date Posted: 09 November 2004 at 5:18pm
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What about the Timmies, Freestyle, and Cyborg? ------------- TK by PB4MS.COM |
Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 09 November 2004 at 6:02pm
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Timmys are nice... but the cyborg would put both a timmy and frestyle in its place... their just as fast as a timmy, real efficiant, accurate, and potentialy cheaper than a new timmy -------------
KH ARMY>you |
Posted By: BuffaloSolda1
Date Posted: 10 November 2004 at 5:33pm
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How much are Cyborgs and what comes on them? ------------- TK by PB4MS.COM |
Posted By: RobertPulson
Date Posted: 10 November 2004 at 6:34pm
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Did anyone mention a Proto Matrix? I haven't shot one yet but I hear they rip as fast if not faster than a stock DM4 or 5. I think they look sweet too. They are smaller than the DM4 and 5 and supposedly a little lighter (they took off the on/off as well). You said 600$ and UP. How much more up? The Proto's are listed under 1000. I believe you can get one for 950$ which is awesome if they can compete with a 4or5 Matrix as suggested. I can attest to Dye's quality as I own a DM4 and I really don't think I could do any better. Like someone stated once you get into the high end markers it's just preference. I know a LOT of Timmy and Shocker owners who down my DM4, but I shoot just as fast (IF NOT FASTER) and shoot em out half the time so it's about the player and being comfortable with the marker. I have never broken paint and never had a single problem with my marker (knock on wood), it is extremely easy to maintain and comes with all the spare parts and instructions you need. I've heard a lot of great things about the Cyborgs as well. I am not a cocker fan. I tried it and don't care for them. If you are going to spend the money for an Ebladed cocker, that means you can probably afford an Impulse or something more reliable that can shoot as fast if not faster. The fastest shooting tourney marker at under 600$ that I know about is Oddysey's O3's ... they look nice and shoot super fast stock. They run around 4-500$ Just remember you get what you pay for most of the time. The best thing to consider is do you want to buy a $600 marker that you will have to upgrade another $500 to get it where you want it ... or should you get a $800-1200 marker and be done with it. The shockers are going pretty cheap right now ... if you are looking to save money I would say you can't go wrong with a Shocker. I am not a Smart Parts fan but they have good quality markers and I shot them so they are definitely fast and quiet. I love my DM4 and wouldn't trade it no matter how many tourney guys try to hate on it :) It's been worth every penny to me. Take a look at the new Proto's soon to be out though. They are cheaper and look awesome IMO with bps rated as fast as the DM4&5. Right now I think Dye is the highest quality high end markers. With them you have a great package with neat organized easy to read manuals, no need to go buying extra chargers (cough Angel) or worrying about spare parts or another barrel (ultralights are THE barrels to use). Just my opinion after I went through strenuous weeks of debating myself. http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/S tore/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=xCTU2__R4m DU4r5DafMUc_UYYWRhB2TTqrc=?ProductID=C7PAqArb508AAAD_lDZHHcI 7 - http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/S tore/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=xCTU2__R4m DU4r5DafMUc_UYYWRhB2TTqrc=?ProductID=C7PAqArb508AAAD_lDZHHcI 7 From what I understand the only difference with the Proto from the Dye Matrixes is there is no on/off gas valve at the front (big whoop I don't need mine anyway because it won't fire when the gun's OFF) and it comes with the new Proto barrel instead of the Utralight ... which is supposed to be awesome none the less. And it doesn't look like the feedneck is adjustable. Which would be the only thing I wouldn't like about it.
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Posted By: BuffaloSolda1
Date Posted: 13 November 2004 at 3:28pm
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Thanks man. Anything on the Timmies, Trixes, Freestyle, and Cyborg yall can tell me will be appreciated. Thanks again. ------------- TK by PB4MS.COM |
Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 13 November 2004 at 4:12pm
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if you wanna save moeny and still get a Great Gun, Go with a 2k2 or a
ECX Timmy, or if you wanna spend the extra 50$ get the Texas Storm. There just as fast as all those other guns but are like .5lbs heavier and may not look as flashy(Except the 2k2 which looks Sweet) I'm unsure if the 2k2's/ECX's still get that warrenty Bob offers though, but for the money a ECX or a 2k2 would be the best bet... -------------
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Posted By: BuffaloSolda1
Date Posted: 13 November 2004 at 4:36pm
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Thanks, any info on the others? ------------- TK by PB4MS.COM |
Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 13 November 2004 at 5:49pm
| i would have to say i would get the DM5 or DM4. or you could go with a Matrix LCD. all very good guns. |
Posted By: P3t3R
Date Posted: 13 November 2004 at 9:47pm
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FrEeStYlE = $850 with free Halo B from shorepaintballsupplies.com great gun, small, compact, lightwieght, fast, has eyes, 4 way adjustable trigger, HE bolt included for free from the above link, excellent tech support (but dont worry about tech support because nothing will go wrong with it), anything else ??? P3t3R |
Posted By: 98c - baller
Date Posted: 13 November 2004 at 11:20pm
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Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 15 November 2004 at 2:40pm
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Posted By: Rick_James
Date Posted: 15 November 2004 at 2:57pm
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Proto Matrix, or, if you've got the cash, get a DM4. My PM5 rips, but
the DM4 is faster and there are more options. I'm selling my Proto to get a DM4 with Musashi. Oh, and here are the differences between a Proto and a DM4, straight from the owner: The Proto Matrix is worse than the DM4 in a few ways: -No clamping feedneck -Can't upgrade with a chip, the whole board has to be reprogrammed -No Ultralite, which doesn't sound like a big deal, but one piece barrel= no bore sizing. And a pinched ball is an unhappy ball. -The Proto is slightly taller than the DM4 The Proto Matrix is better than the DM4 because: -It's about 2 ounces lighter -It's 1/3 of an inch shorter -No membrane, just simple push buttons Contrary to popular belief, I get the same amount of shots with both on my 68/3000. |
Posted By: BuffaloSolda1
Date Posted: 15 November 2004 at 5:25pm
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Thanks anything else? ------------- TK by PB4MS.COM |
Posted By: reticule
Date Posted: 16 November 2004 at 2:08pm
I agree with Robert Poulson. Purchase a matrix and you will not be let down. Matrix owners who switch guns are typically just looking for something different, but I have seen countless local ex-matrix owners return to owning another matrix. A matrix will spoil you with ease of maintenance, shooting behavior, lack of paint breaks/chops. I'm in the same boat where I have yet to break ANY paint in my dm4. My only complaint is that it's an air hog, compared to the other guns i've owned and shot. |
Posted By: reticule
Date Posted: 16 November 2004 at 2:10pm
Glad to see another owner with an objective opinion  Good luck with the dm4 acquisition! |
Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 17 November 2004 at 1:06am
04' Vert with E-balde II, and new pnuematics.... Talk about a 04' on Steroids... 
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Posted By: BuffaloSolda1
Date Posted: 21 November 2004 at 6:25pm
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What about Timmies and Freestyles? ------------- TK by PB4MS.COM |