We play elimination woodsball mostly. theres only a couple of older guys, one who was in the navy. Theyre all about camo, and reticule me for wearing black or anything flashy.

 it can be 15 minutes before anything happens from the start of a match. we stick with a couple other guys and face another smal group. those moments are exhilerating and fun, but sometimes i wont even see any action in a match.

Speedball is a little more than "point and shoot". Its way more fast paced, close quartered, pinning guys down while guys move into key spots. U can be stealthy depending on where/how many guys there are. No shrubby gets inthe way of shots.

But i like woodsball a little better.

i play with ussally 9 others and all of us are military trained  sometimes its an hr. before any action starts with us . but its very serious if you get shot you die!!!! its like a training senario for real life situations

ok, my biased opion out of the way i can see both the appeal for the woodz and for speed/tourney ball. woodz ball yes there is tactics and stuff but it is not real, you said you played with military trained ppl, well i bet i could beet an ex navy seal in a game of woodz even though i dont play woodz because paintball is nothing like real guns. if you guys are sneeking  around with your camo and scopes i could stand at the end of a field and yell at you guys and you could do nothing paintballs just dont have the range or accuracy that real guns do. with that being said i find it verrrrry childish to play pretend and try to act like you in a war

now tourney ball is in fact a sport. its not trying to be anything but itself, its own sport. Alot of woods ballers say you just shoot tons of paint at a bunker and hope you hit them. WRONG you know that hopper of paint i shot down my lane at the bunker across field?, well not a single ball was actuly ment to hit the person in that bunker. it was ment to keep him from peeking that way so he couldnt shoot at my front play in the snake. now those are tactics.

so both woods ball and speed ball have tactics. and while the tactics may range from sneaking and being unditected to laneing, sliding and penatly killing, there both infact tactics

theres alot more i could type but my fingers are getting tired so i dont think i will.

stingrayhey wrote: frog   you stand in a feild and yell and your getting shot!!!!  by the men flanking around you or the group advancing on to you. giving up your position before getting a kill shot is very dangerious range and accuracy is everything you must know your limitations and use them to your advantage. men posted in cirtin positions all over the playing ground makes for a very serious war   and it is war    kill or be killed..... as for beating an ex seal   you got brass balls to say that. these guys are trained and live to win in no win suitations. very smart players    come and play with us sometime  if your as good as you say id love to have u on the feild with me

that was kinda my point. they can shoot at me from across the field but they wont hit me. paintballs are to inacruate and not good enough range. and as for the flanking team, yes that could get me but thats not what i was trying to say.

Paintball is AWESOME

no matter if your in the woodz or in an airball field its still a great game/sport

OK. Speedball owns woodsball. there is no point to having a bunch of people on a field camping with there flatlines. Woodsball= a bunch of campers. Now u said u have a car that runs 9's. what is it and whats it got.

Speedball > woodsball   god it makes me so mad when noobs say that all speedball is is "spray and pray" geez there are soooo many more tactics in speedball that most people think. yeah sure i mean the backman have to go through alot of paint because they lay down so much cover fire. i mena in speedball, its a pure adrenaline rush, not like hour games where you try to pick people off from super dooper distances. i mean sure woodsball is kinda fun but speedball is superior to it. there aint no big money tourneys for woodsball b/c it is not really fun to watch, who would want to watch something an hour or more long and in 5 minits there is a big firefight, and the games over. whell to make things simple, SPEEDBALL RULES!!!!

Someone help me with the name, you should know what im talking about...

real guns, paint or wax bullets powered by gunpowder, accuracy of bullets, wont kill u but hurts a bit more than paintballs? I know people play with that.

If i was an ex navy seal, paintball would seem like NERF ball, and i would get a buncha guys to play with the wax bullets.

or am i just talking about something from a dream? 

mmm not realy like, riot ammo, it can be for recreational use, or military training i guess. They were in one of the Chucky movies when they had that war at the camp of whatever untill he switched the paint ammo with live ammo.

But it would be like, the extreme next step in paintball war play.

in woodsball games i find my self thinking "damn, if these were real guns id have him"

Speedball is alot more similar to chess in that there really is alot more stratgey in my opinon because you have to work out a ton of angles and guess where the opponent is going to move their men so then you have to more your men to areas where you have a better chance of taking them up. Hmm exactly like chess. And if you played speedball and all you did was dumped paint all day and you did even remotely well you probably wernt playing with very good players.

woodsball is too slow for me... so i make it fast.  now when i play in the woods i run my skinny butt half way up the field as soon as we say go.  when i see someone move in some brush and there isn't a hole in the brush... it try to make one.  i don't care if people know where i am.  if they have a shot on me... i have a shot on them.  so i just keep my eyes open and i don't get afraid to shoot.  what's the fun in buying a case of paint and only shooting a quarter of it...

they are different games and they can both be fun... its just what you make of it.  if you like sneaking around in the swamps and ending up smelling like swamp ass... go ahead... by the time you crawl up to where you want to be... i'll already be on my rampage half way up the field trying to shoot people. 

WOODSBALL KICKS @$$ and can be easier on the wallet

Wow...okay...I used to play woods very avidly....when I started out, I thought it was the shiz....i got all the gear, Flatline, remote, full camo.....after a while, I just realized that the games were too slow, the "intensity" of just sitting still, awaiting a one minute fire fight where a max of 100 balls were spent just wasnt fun, I kept playing for a while, then, I went and played at a friend's speedball field, it took me only one day to be fixed and I've never turned back, I play the occassional woods game, but recently, I've turned the people that I started out playin with away from woods, and onto the speedball field. They now love the faster paced action and I have a feeling it will become the dominant game type at their field......

Now to say that speedball involves no skill, that's just rediculous. First of all, it takes some balls, some real cahones, to even step onto a speedball field. Secondly, the logic of where the lanes are and how much cover you have from bunker to bunker is key in speedball. There are so many examples of strategy and logic involved in speedball that it's tough to name them all.....but still, to say that it's a kids game, with no rhyme or reason.....that's just stupid......

ooo i remember this, this was a post a couple of mouths back, its was like 12 pages of ppl flaming people on how speedball is better, vise versa,

o ya

Rick_James: im 13 and play speedball, Pro...no, yet like most ppl here we still play  

Glassjaw wrote: CQB_NINja wrote: Someone help me with the name, you should know what im talking about... real guns, paint or wax bullets powered by gunpowder, accuracy of bullets, wont kill u but hurts a bit more than paintballs? I know people play with that. If i was an ex navy seal, paintball would seem like NERF ball, and i would get a buncha guys to play with the wax bullets. or am i just talking about something from a dream?  Shotguns can take rubber slugs.  Are you talking about rubber ammunition?

i know what ur talking about...my dads a cop and they use it to train every six months..ive watched before its so hardcore dude...i think paintball owns (im a speedball player just to let u know) but if i had a chance i think this would own paintball b/c this isnt like some of u were saying with woodsball how it was pretend and that it wasnt the real accuracy of real bullets and stuff but this is and that makes it so awesome...unfortunantly i couldnt play with them while they were doing the training but its called simunition (like simulated ammunition get it? haha).  thats what i think atleast but i never heard of it being availiale to civillians to play with.

12andKickin wrote: Woods is better. What someone said about full auto, to me 30 bps IS auto. I shot off under 400 paintballs in a 12 hour scenario game, if you don't spray, then you don't use that much paint.

u cant say that 30 bps is fully auto...it might be as fast as fully auto but its not.

Full auto--When you squeeze the trigger once and the gun continues to fire until the trigger is released.

what most ppl that play speedball do is walk the trigger (that is making a walking motion with ur pointer and middle fingers so that u squeeze the triger twice as fast.)

i think woodsball is boring most of the tiems.  when i play i dont go hardcore (no ghillie suits, guns draped in camo, scopes, etc.)  everyone i play with its just like paintball in the woods.  some ppl who i play with prefer woodsball so they use woodsball strategies (hiding in one spot and sniping, sneaking thru woods, guarding a base. etc.) while i prefer to rush the other team and own while they are tripping over their ghillie suits.

oh and the stuff about speedball being no skill is total BS.  ive played both..started out thought speedball was dumb and now i love it so much.  since i have experience with both im goin to make an observation.  speedball requires more skill.  everyone will have their own opinion on this but in my experience if u take someone who has played woodsball for 2 years and put them on equal teams with the same amount of playing experience and do the same with ppl who have played speedball for 2 years then the ppl playin speedball will have alot harder time even tho the other players are equal to them.  in close quarters everyting gets harder and faster and the first tiem i played serious speedball i almost wet myself it was so scary.

stingrayhey wrote: speedball or woodsball? ive played both but speedball is for kids i think. theres no rhyme or reason. just point and let them fly .. full auto and go through 1000 balls in 3 hrs. i play very intense games of seek and destroy. and capture flag in the swamps of south florida with an elite group of players. were all military trained. rangers,special forces,seals,special opts,and even an ex fbi agent. when we play a typical game of 8 on 8   or 10 on 10 it lasts about 2 hrs and you shoot on average of 30 to 40 shots a game. its like chess  very tatical and very organizied. you dont fire unless u have a clean shot  for fear of giving up your position. i would like to know what other people think is a better game. speed or woods. i guess it will also tell me how intense others here are too. and if anyone is in southwest fla. and wants to play email me and well set it up.   very serious players only..tell me what you guys think of woodsball compaired to speedball

You are way off buddy. Most speedballers don't spray and pray its the ignorant people like you and other woodsballers who don't know the game of speedball that think that. Speedball has to do with aiming straight, being able to see all angels and not getting blindsided. It takes just as much skill to play speedball as it does woodsball. To many woodsball people THINK they have almighty accuracy and can hit someone from 100ft away with one shot. They think just because the speedballers shoot fast they stink at paintball. Thats just stupid and ignorant to think that. My head finally stopped hurting from the stupidity of this post.

paintballer2584 wrote: kwkmrorange wrote: very close quarters woodsball is speedball. Thats all speeball is. You take the fun fire fight part of woodsball and make a game out of it. how do you think playing in a barn  of 3 storys like i said in my post is speedball

Well if your running around in a barn, ducking behind different obstacles shooting at eachother, that is really similar to speedball except on a slightly larger scale.

People who love woodsball seem to have a very negative view of speedball and will deny speedball is fun at all costs.

       Look, they're both fun, its all about opinion.

       Ever since i started paintball with my pump i have benn playing woodsball. Its very fun. Your watching from every direction just to make sure your not the next one sniped in the head and out of the game.  And as soon as you hear a shot you drop to the ground wondering if that shot was intended for you. Yes, of course it isnt like the adrenaline of a real war, but still, you know you have a "one shot, one kill" sniper watching your every step.But just a week or two ago, i tried speedball and it is just as hard and fast-paced as they say it is.

       Now speedball is another story, there are still tactic, just in another form. Instead of being stealthy, and trying not to be spotted and sniped, they are in the form of laying down cover fire for your front men. And running as fast as you can, not caring about if you are seen or not, to get behind a bunker and avoid getting hit off the break. Do you really think it is easy to sit behind a bunker, and lay down cover fire for your front men, while also trying to eliminate the opposing teams players.

      So truthfully, it is totally a opinion which is better, yes speedball is a much more tournament-style sport, and woodsball is not very much fun to watch. But it is totally different when you are actually in the action. If you really wanna know which is better then you should try speedball and see what you think.

       Me, personally, i like speedball more now. I think it is more fast paced and gives you an adrenaline rush. Your blood is pumping and your running from bunker to bunker. But thats just me anyways.

stingrayhey wrote: speedball or woodsball? ive played both but speedball is for kids i think. theres no rhyme or reason. just point and let them fly .. full auto and go through 1000 balls in 3 hrs.

A) I really hate you

B) Games last like 3 minutes tops, not 3 hrs.

Meh, speedball likes it in the stink.

^^^^Cause the mods havent seen it yet.

Id rather play speedball. Or a fast paced woodsball game. I like action more than sneaking around. I personally belive it takes more talent, both individually and as a team, to play speedball. Why? Because speedball makes you make decisions in a much faster, tougher environment. There is nowhere to hide on a speedball field, and the other team is going to come at you hard, so you have to react faster. A local SWAT team went to a local paintball field and trained against a bunch of other speedball players in an urban setting. They got owned, big time, because the speedballers made better decisions faster and also executed more aggressive moves. Speedball players require more physical ability and more mental agility than speedball.

Now woodsball is fun too, and the occasional long scenario type game is great fun, but when you sneak around a field for an hour and not see anyone, and then you finally see someone and you only get to shoot 20-30 shots at them because they are chicken and want to go hide, thats no fun. So if I play woodsball, it is usually on a field smaller than a football field. That way the games go faster and there is more contact. So bring all of your ex-military/CIA/Navy Seals/Green Berets/Martha Stewart Design team members up to play some speedball some day. We will have a "blast".

Rick_James wrote: stingrayhey wrote: speedball or woodsball? ive played both but speedball is for kids i think. theres no rhyme or reason. just point and let them fly .. full auto and go through 1000 balls in 3 hrs. i play very intense games of seek and destroy. and capture flag in the swamps of south florida with an elite group of players. were all military trained. rangers,special forces,seals,special opts,and even an ex fbi agent. when we play a typical game of 8 on 8   or 10 on 10 it lasts about 2 hrs and you shoot on average of 30 to 40 shots a game. its like chess  very tatical and very organizied. you dont fire unless u have a clean shot  for fear of giving up your position. i would like to know what other people think is a better game. speed or woods. i guess it will also tell me how intense others here are too. and if anyone is in southwest fla. and wants to play email me and well set it up.   very serious players only..tell me what you guys think of woodsball compaired to speedball I call shenanigans! I'm gonna analyze everything wrong with this post from top to bottom: 1) Speedball is not for kids. In fact, that's why there are professional paintball leagues that play only speedball (x-ball, 7man, 5 man. etc.) 2) There is most definatley rhyme, and with rhyme comes reason. It may not be "tactical" but you have to think smart. That's why noobs who try to make run throughs get owned. 3) Full auto? Are you serious? Unless we're talkin' NXL, full auto is ILLEGAL. 4) 1000 balls... in 3 hours? It's harder to save 1000 for 3 hours than it is to shoot it. I use 1000 in 2 or 3 games. 5) If your players are so elite, why can't they play speedball? 6) Yes, you may have a ranger, SEAL, army dude, FBI agent and a special ops guy, but I'm a Space Commando trained at the Martha Stewart Academy for Intergallactic Warriors and Interior Design Specialists. First of all, aside from me being a space commando, that's a load of BS, and second of all, war is nothing like paintball. Every army guy that plays at my local field gets owned, and if you think you're any better, you and your "Elite Players" can bring you bi- pods, CAR Stocks and camo up to the airball field. See how long you "highly trained military specialists" will last. 7) When you only shoot 30-40 balls a game, that's not the intensity of the experience, that's just you sucking. 8) If woods players were the most intense, there would be a pro league for that too, right? Sorry, but stupid posts like this make me angry. So angry, I feel like going out and sniping my worst enemies from 400 yards using my brand new scope. And yes, I'm mocking you.

i dont really care about your opinions, but i would like to tell you to go **edited** yourself and shove it because you are treating a man who served our country in REAL COMBAT with no respect.  if they want to play like real combat, let them, it's called a scenario game.

edit: sorry for flying off the handle but i get emotional when people disrespect the ex military members that would be willing to die for anyone of us in real combat.

Rick_James wrote: What he described isn't a scenario game, dude. Last time I went to a scenario game, we were defending a castle and I shot 2 cases of paint.

you can make up any kinda game you want.  they can play how they want to play.  if they think its fun, let them play it.  you are just a dumb **edited** that is acting like a over-cracked dead man

s2k_1 wrote: [QUOTE=Rick_James]What he described isn't a scenario game, dude. Last time I went to a scenario game, we were defending a castle and I shot 2 cases of paint.

you can make up any kinda game you want.  they can play how
they want to play.  if they think its fun, let them play it.  you are just
a dumb **edited** that is acting like a over-cracked dead man