pimpa is so stupid to like spyder that crossbreed

Heres one of the many stories you have heard why Spyder users dont like Tippmann users...

Ive seen this everytime when my friends and I go woodsballing...inbetween each game I would see my friends doin somethin wit their Spyders(theyve had theirs fer a couple of years), either a ball broke in the barrel, the battery died, the hopper wont stay in place because the vert feed is wider than the neck of the hopper, a screw or 2 are loose (all this after the 1st 2 games) and any problems you can think of on a electro-marker and of course they would have to solve the problem on theyre own and try to fix it before headin out to the field....well as fer me, inbetween each game all I would do is wait fer them after refilling my pods and now Qpods fer my Qloader, eating a sandwiche and drinkin a Gatorade and my 98c would jus be sittin on the table waiting fer it to be picked up and to be used fer the next game and once in awhile I would experience a break and a chop inwhich I can remedy on the field during a firefight, as fer my friends, when they experience the same problem, they would spend too much time try to fix whatever problem that jus happened and while one or two is helping each other on the problem/s, I would usually be nearby to watch theyre backs wit my Tippmann.

At the end of the day, one of my friends "finally noticed" that hes never seen me do any kind of maintenance done on my 98c before and inbetween each game except fer refilling my 20oz co2 tank...and I merely told him I didnt have to do much to make my marker work and I told him straight up that Tippmanns are extremely reliable....then he paused and gave me that dumb look and said F that, Imma get a Tippmann next time when we go play....I even boosted up his ego by sayin "cool, now you can become a Tippmann Elite"

I know why people with Spyders hate you!!! Because Spyders are the scum of the paintball world!!! I have replaced my gun three times in 9 weeks and it has broken again. I was at the American Paintball Club yesterday and I couldn't fire more than 9 or 10 balls before my marker would jam and I had to call myself out. I personally believe that Spyders are by far the worst paintball markers in the entire sport. I would rather be shooting a Blade or a Talon. I am saving up for an A-5 to solve my Kingman problems. Oh, and their customer service sucks too!!! They also sell Imagines without the Jumper{which they sell separately for $12}and still say that they have semi, 3-burst, and full auto modes. I took needle nose pliars to mine!!! Now that little green peice of crap looks something like this little dude...  

i know a lot of kids who used spyders and when were playin in the woods theyre always unscrewing theyre barrels while i am killin there teammates. y cant ppl spend 50 bucks more and get a custom i mean come on ppl

Yeah my friend recently bought a spyder E99, he now regrets doing it and wants a custom 98 or A5

Kingman is becoming more and more like Brass Weasle, thier quality control is going down, thier adding more crappy features instead of working on the ones they've already got. They're starting to market to the ignorant crowd - making cheap guns with lots of eye-catching features that are of sloppy design and construction. They're using more and more plastic with each new gun they make.

IHMO, autococker users hate us more than spyder users.

Pretty much all of you are wrong. 

1. The "They're jealous" stuff is pure crap. If they were jealous, they'd do something about it and get a different marker.

2. "Spyders are the scum of the paintball world" Then explain to me how they can be successful in cloning their many markers, and making a killing in the recball circut. They provide affordable beginner markers to people who can't see spending $275 on an A-5 just yet.

  What they might NOT like, is the preponderance of 13 year old kids with tippmanns constantly trashing them and their marker. These are the same kids who come in here whining about how someone with a cocker made fun of his tippy....thats so mean, but hey.....let's go rag on this spyder! They don't hate tippmanns, they hate you.

Spyders, as I mentioned, are easy to afford for people who are getting into the game. One of my first markers was a spyder. I didn't like it, but it got me through games. So some of them might break. Not all of them will, and the only ones that will become seriously screwed up are in the hands of people who don't know how to take care of their markers.

.......I think THAT answers that question.  

Well put.

(open mouth insert foot)

Yep.. Panda man, I have seen it many times myself.. as a matter of fact, my two friends finally sold their spyders ( as parts because they.. got a massive *unknown* air leak..) and got themselves tippmanns, and wish they listened to me sooner..

And 6 weeks.. wow, i have never heard that one, its like 3-4..

Actually, I'm not saying all Spyders or bad, it's just that many users of Spyders that I've had experience with are very ignorant. 4 of my friends have Spyders, 2 with PMI E-Force Cores, and one friend with a 98 custom. Out of all of them, I have the most upgraded gun ( A 98 custom), it's the most accurate, and it shoots the fastest. Now I've never boasted ONCE about any of the features except how reliable it is. Whenever we go paintballing though, they always complain about how I brag about my shooting speed. The only one that keeps his mouth shut is the 98 c kid. Every single one of them has had bolt, leakage, or jamming problems. I never have jamming problems because I got HPA recently and because I have a 12v revvy. After nearly every round, we have to pause because the kids with PMI's have to oil every part of their gun. They can't go anymore because their guns suck and don't work anymore for whatever reason. Now it's me, a tippy, and 4 spyders. I never try to force my opinions on them at all, or even mention it for that matter. But every time I go, I stay quiet because although I think my gun is better, I never want to start problems. However, they seem to get angry that they have more problems. They then blame their problems on me when I don't agree to fix their guns every time! What should I do?

  Just fix their gun. Tell them they shoulda got a tippmann.

   I think why most spyders break down is because people who are starting to paintball usually dont buy expesive guns. so they probably buy a spyder instead of tippmann because spyders are colorful and good looking (well... more than a tippmann.) so once they guy their spyders they have almost no idea how to maintain it. thus the spyder breaks down because of a noob that cant maintain it.

Let's face it...

New Player + Marker that requires regular routine maintenance = Formula for one messed up marker.

Tippmanns are capable of plugging along with almost no maintenance.  Sure the manual says you need to do similar maintenance procedures as you would with a Spyder but we all know that a Tippmann is just about as indestructable as a marker gets.

The issue with Spyder breakage is that you have someone who knows NOTHING about the sport, DOESN'T read the manual, and just expects the thing to work like his X-box.  Turn it on, play with it, turn it off, that's that.  Well, you can't do that with a marker (again, other than a Tippmann) and have the thing work. 

You guys come on here to talk about Spyder owners bashing your Tippmanns...but I'm seeing just the opposite.  For the record, I have a MilSim stacked tube blow back (VM68 clone...which the Spyder is as well) and have shot my buddies Tippmann.  Both are nice markers but mine takes 3 times the regular maintenance  his does.  Both shoot very reliably.

I agree that Spyders are..... uh... how could I put this.....O.K. for people just getting into the game but I still really dislike the company not only for it's lying packages but for it's crappy customer service. The phone service dude told me the Imagine only chopped because I was too moch of a moron to use it right. Kingman is in my opinion the worst paintball company to ever make a single marker. I would honestly go onto a speedball field with a Talon before I would EVER fire another Imagine. Noobs be warned...you get what you pay for when purchasing a marker. I vote Tippmanns as the best quality for your money. For the same price as an E-99 you can get an A-5.... may the force and the statistics be with you.......