No Trigger?
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Forum Name: Paintball Ideas / News From Tippmann
Forum Description: Got a new idea or a way to improve something?
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Topic: No Trigger?
Posted By: Savior_six
Subject: No Trigger?
Date Posted: 20 November 2004 at 10:50pm
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Hi, I'm relatively new to the forum but since being here I've noticed that anytime I see a "new guy", such as myself, try to propose a new idea we're usually flamed 'till we're burnt. So bare with me, and if this idea has been proposed then I hope nobaody patented it.
Anyways from the subject title you can probally tell that this will have to deal with the trigger or lack thereof. I orginally got the idea from the touch screen computers used at McDonalds. The trigger would be removed but not the conecpt of one. All there would be is a flat surfaced composed of the same material and technolgy used in the McDonalds screens I was talking about earlier. Since there is no trigger there is no trigger to deal with. There is no pre or post trigger travel or toe adjustments to deal with. Trigger Upgardes such as magetic attracting and repelling can be done away with. And most important you can shoot faster. Of course there are some set backs. The "trigger" is very sensitve physically. The slightest touch will set it off making it almost dangerous. And it will only be compatible with electronic markers, of course. The hardward might not be that durable (I'm not sure how well it will hold up, that's 50/50) But most electronic triggers are very sensitive already, the Angel 4 fly has a trigger pull that is less than a half a mouse click. But original triggers can be "pulled" or set-off by anything: a barrel condom pull string, clothing, your harness, anything that can touch it. Touch triggers (Thats what I call them) only activate when touched by bare human skin. Im sure there are other pro's and con's for it, like no dangerous bounce or over shooting but no gloves. Just an idea I had, tell me what you think.... ------------- Team Salem, Kuwait 08 |
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Posted By: AdmiralSenn
Date Posted: 20 November 2004 at 10:52pm
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Yep, been thought of. (I hope you don't mean me flaming people; I try to avoid that).
I think it violates some NPPL rule or other. But it's been proposed and shot down already. Sorry. ------------- Is God real? You'll find out when you die. 
Okay, I don't have a clever signature zinger. So sue me. |
Posted By: reincarnation14
Date Posted: 20 November 2004 at 11:18pm
oh i havent seen it yet, but thats good tho, keep it up, try usin the search next time  ------------- Diablo Mongoose 2 18in CP Barrel adjustdable feedneck FAPM-Formers Againts Pope Mobile The South WILL Rise Again |
Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 20 November 2004 at 11:38pm
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I did hear of one in R&D stage for some company. To make it safe a speacial glove would have to be worn to make it fire. I havent heard anything on it lately though. |
Posted By: reincarnation14
Date Posted: 20 November 2004 at 11:49pm
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^^^thats pretty kewl, tell me if u hear anymore on it
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Posted By: g-bilt shibby
Date Posted: 21 November 2004 at 12:26am
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maybe if it was only fired by a heated object (finger) notive a touch
pad on a laptop only moves the cursor if you use your finger cause its
heat sensitive the glove thing would be cool but more expensive ------------- The difference between the possible and impossible is determination. |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 21 November 2004 at 12:53am
Nazi parts patented that one. ------------- 
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Monk wrote:Posted By: SnakeEyes
Date Posted: 21 November 2004 at 3:48am
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New guy to the forums? You have over 1300 posts and have been a member since 2002, how does that count as new?
But anyways, it would be a pretty impressive trigger but as someone else said, I believe the NPPL shot it down as there is not mechanical part, so one of the testing robots could not be connected to it and used to find "cheater" guns. At least I think that was the reason that someone gave me, who knows. ------------- Which falls faster, a lead ball or your IQ after reading some of these posts? http://www.pennstatepaintball.com" rel="nofollow - PSU Paintball |
Posted By: jjclown23
Date Posted: 21 November 2004 at 2:42pm
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how would u shoot without a trigger? ------------- A-5 Response Trigger DOP Blade Trigger Polished Internals X-Chamber Custom Paint 14" J&J |
Posted By: SnakeEyes
Date Posted: 21 November 2004 at 2:46pm
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Your forum title explains it all jjclown23. If you read, you would know. ------------- Which falls faster, a lead ball or your IQ after reading some of these posts? http://www.pennstatepaintball.com" rel="nofollow - PSU Paintball |
Posted By: nforcer4
Date Posted: 21 November 2004 at 3:17pm
| lol i was just playing half life and did that^^^ |
Posted By: jjclown23
Date Posted: 21 November 2004 at 3:31pm
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blah i get it now ------------- A-5 Response Trigger DOP Blade Trigger Polished Internals X-Chamber Custom Paint 14" J&J |
Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 21 November 2004 at 5:34pm
| get like a laser thing (light sensitative) and everytime something passes it (your finger) it shoots. that would make it shoot VERY fast. |
Posted By: 98 nitro
Date Posted: 21 November 2004 at 10:46pm
| that would be awesome but i dont see how the wires and stuff to make it work would fit in the gun |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 21 November 2004 at 10:57pm
| Technologically pretty straightforward, but (IMO) the main problem is that it would be slower than a regular trigger. An actual trigger provides resistance and guides your finger(s). What separates a good trigger from a not so good trigger isn't how light it is - all electro triggers can be impossibly light. What makes a good trigger is how well the pressure interacts with your finger. With your trigger plate there is no pressure at all - try drumming out 15 bps on your table top... |
Posted By: A-5 auto
Date Posted: 22 November 2004 at 12:44am
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ohh now i get it. I agree with ya. ------------- Hey howd you do that?! Your funny hahaha shut up! FAPM forumers against Popemobile |
Posted By: reincarnation14
Date Posted: 22 November 2004 at 2:00am
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yea i get it now.....its like tryin to slide ur hand across the little pad 30 times a second, good job ------------- Diablo Mongoose 2 18in CP Barrel adjustdable feedneck FAPM-Formers Againts Pope Mobile The South WILL Rise Again |
Posted By: A-5 auto
Date Posted: 22 November 2004 at 11:42am
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if it would have like a little pressure then it would be TIGHT!! ------------- Hey howd you do that?! Your funny hahaha shut up! FAPM forumers against Popemobile |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 22 November 2004 at 7:42pm
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If the pad was also the lcd screen it would be crazy. You could walk the trigger and do settings adjusments at the same time. The ref starts getting close so you switch back to semi from full auto w/ mad ramping.
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Posted By: Blue Hopper
Date Posted: 22 November 2004 at 9:36pm
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Though think of how fast you could fan the trigger
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Posted By: surfnbrad
Date Posted: 23 November 2004 at 2:03pm
| yea u could use like 4 fingers = 4 times faster than your normal pulll 4 fingger walkin insane prob about30 bps only it the trigger was big enough |
Posted By: A-5 auto
Date Posted: 24 November 2004 at 12:06pm
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that would be cool! ------------- Hey howd you do that?! Your funny hahaha shut up! FAPM forumers against Popemobile |
Posted By: reincarnation14
Date Posted: 24 November 2004 at 4:40pm
that would hurt too!!!  ------------- Diablo Mongoose 2 18in CP Barrel adjustdable feedneck FAPM-Formers Againts Pope Mobile The South WILL Rise Again |
Posted By: monkeymann
Date Posted: 24 November 2004 at 7:54pm
 that was stupid you moron why no trigger thats sooooooo stupid yor funny ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
------------- im me gottagetapig lets talk paintball fool PURPLE!!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: surfnbrad
Date Posted: 24 November 2004 at 9:06pm
| monkey man shut up u loosa |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 25 November 2004 at 3:16am
| If you wanna make it a reality, try getting a Government Contract, they'll be willing to spend millions of $ to make it work fer the guns of the future. |
Posted By: Blue Hopper
Date Posted: 25 November 2004 at 11:31am
| Why would the military want those when triggers and full auto work fine |
Posted By: Bonestock98
Date Posted: 25 November 2004 at 11:35am
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Besause they'll pay big $$$ for anything that doesn't have something the old ones had. ------------- F.A.T.T.S.W.F.A.-Forumers Against Things That Start With "Forumers Against" |
Posted By: Juno Trevan
Date Posted: 25 November 2004 at 3:42pm
Unfortunately that only makes the idea more dangerous. Now any tiny little thing could set it off inadvertantly, in places where you really don't want it going off. Example in the staging area or when you are holding it downwards towards your feet..... ------------- It is the strong that make the weak. |
Posted By: Blue Hopper
Date Posted: 25 November 2004 at 9:16pm
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The militarys been constantly trying to save money while still maximising effectivness. Yes they do employ new technologies that are more expsenive than older ones. Such as red dot sights vs normal ones, though this wasn't on older guns they put it on because it takes less training to use. They put stuff on, or take it off for a reason not just to waste tax dolars. |
Posted By: reincarnation14
Date Posted: 25 November 2004 at 9:56pm
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becuz it would b easyer for snipers in the army, the older u get the less steady the nerve is in your finger, therefor it tends to twitch a whole lot, causeing u to pull the triger and give away your position, thats why u see more young snipers instead of olderones, but i doubt ur gunna see a sniper, lol, but other then that i dont think it would help the army ------------- Diablo Mongoose 2 18in CP Barrel adjustdable feedneck FAPM-Formers Againts Pope Mobile The South WILL Rise Again |
Posted By: Blue Hopper
Date Posted: 25 November 2004 at 10:17pm
| ^^^yeah I don't think I'd really like any soldiers not being able to keep from pulling trigger. "Hey Joe your scarin me why don't you just take up point." |
Posted By: reincarnation14
Date Posted: 26 November 2004 at 2:36am
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Yea,lol, that would suck. But, That would take alot of time and money to do, if you wanted to, you could probably pull it off. You would just need to get a sponser, take it to somekind of paintball company and have them check it out ------------- Diablo Mongoose 2 18in CP Barrel adjustdable feedneck FAPM-Formers Againts Pope Mobile The South WILL Rise Again |
Posted By: A-5 auto
Date Posted: 26 November 2004 at 6:20pm
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If snipers had a twichy finger then u wouldnt want a trigger that applies no pressure cuz they might accidentally twitch and there finger pass the lazer and it fires giving away there spot. ------------- Hey howd you do that?! Your funny hahaha shut up! FAPM forumers against Popemobile |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 26 November 2004 at 7:28pm
| Actually there has been triggerless guns, but theyre not on the market, theyre mainly done fer preferred customers....heres an example, The Man with The Golden Gun...theres a scene in the movie where Roger Moore (007) is having a conversation wit an underground gunsmith to caters to would be assasins and the gunsmith instructs 007 how to operate a triggerless rifle (the gunsmith said the rifle was meant fer a customer who had lost some fingers), the shooter would have to apply pressure wit his shoulder into the butt of the rifle stock. |
Posted By: Blue Hopper
Date Posted: 26 November 2004 at 7:57pm
| I personally like the 007 movie that has a gun worked by muscle activity. |
Posted By: boomstick
Date Posted: 04 December 2004 at 2:02pm
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That's a really good idea. I would like to see a marker that had one.
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 04 December 2004 at 8:36pm
| Well lose yer fingers and request a marker manufacturer to create triggerless marker fer you. |
Posted By: JacBacpaintball
Date Posted: 04 December 2004 at 10:02pm
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i think this isnt a good idea. wat if u accidentaly put ur finger over it and it shot............................ouch hey who did that.(all the suden u hererunning feet)......... ------------- FLATLINES SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T BE AFRAID OF BALLZ! my setup is 98 custom double trigger lapco bigshot 14 in. 12volt revolution |
Posted By: LastLine07
Date Posted: 05 December 2004 at 2:37pm
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I kno how to eliminate all safety hazards of the gun going off. Put the safety on, dont put your finger anywhere near the trigger, and have the barrel plug in. that would pretty much eliminate any chance of the gun going off. i see one giant problem with this original idea, it was based off a fast food restuarants cash register keys. Have you ever seen those people try to push the buttons sometimes they dont register, because they get worn out. The trigger has been around for centuries because it works, and the old saying "dont fix it if it aint broken" should be applied here ------------- Shoot first ask questions later |
Posted By: Blue Hopper
Date Posted: 06 December 2004 at 4:17pm
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^^^Good post |