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jeep 98 custom wrote: Should WGP make a Tippmann? No. It's a stupid idea, and cockers aren't even that great.

cockers arent even that great? are you smokin a bong or something?

jeep im gonna disagree with u on that.

but no tippmann can keep its low end markers.

jeep 98 custom wrote: What I meant was if Tippmann were to make a high end gun, they might aswell go all out on it. You and I both know cockers are good, but there's better out there.

yeah true.

better then a cocker, dm4, trix's, nice shockers , i like the nerve, Xcals, and Vikes,  i dont like timmys so im not gonna include them.

the only bad thing about cockers is they get problems easeily if u dont baby them and take care of them. but a nice electro cocker w/ all great parts can keep up with the best in speed, but not the best in mantance.

Tippmann can't make an autococker anways. If you didnt know,Wor Game Products has the patent to the autococker. If Tippmann made one and sold it they would get fine a whole lot of money. Since tippmann seems to be successful they will be smart enough to not deal with a law suit.

vonfeldt7 wrote: Ummm if you don't mind me asking, what exactly is an autococker, I thought that was a brand of gun? thx

Autococker- (nickname- cocker).

The autococker fires from a closed bolt. It is probably the only gun that fires closed bolt. The auto-cocker system only activates during the last half of the trigger pull. The final portion activates a three way valve that allows CO2 to enter the front side of the activating cylinder. This in turn pushes the cocking block backward approximately 1" and moves the bolt and cocking rod backwards. At this time the hammer latches and a paintball drops into the breech. The bolt and cocking assembly remains in the rearward position until you release the trigger. Releasing the trigger reverses the three-way valve. This vents the CO2 from the front of the activating cylinder and routes CO2 to the rear of the activating cylinder. The cylinder then pulls the cocking block and bolt into the forward position. The gun is now ready to fire. The first half of the next trigger pull releases the hammer, firing the gun, and the second half of the pull repeats the above steps.

Or in other words...

The basic idea behind the AutoCocker is to take a pump gun and replace the pump handle with a piston to pump the gun automatically. Hence the ram. The ram is controlled by a 3-way valve that is connected to the trigger. The ram, 3-way, and regulator are located under a cover or exposed (most are exposed) on the front of the gun. The cocking block connecting rod run down the left side of the body. It connects the ram to the cocking block. When the trigger is depressed, the 3-way sends Co2 to the back of the ram's piston and it in turn pushes the cocking block back. When this happens, the block pulls the bolt and cocking rod back as well. The bolt is now open which allows a paintball to fall into the chamber. The cocking rod is connected to the hammer, so the hammer is also pulled back until the sear catches on the trigger. When the trigger is released, the 3-way routes Co2 into the front of the piston, pulling the cocking block forward, closing the bolt. The paintgun is now ready to fire. Depressing the trigger again fires the paintball and begins the cycle again.

So the autococker will not fire a paintball on the first trigger pull, but rather has to cycle a paintball into the chamber first.

http://tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID =119260&KW=autocockers&bhcp=1 - http://tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID =119260&KW=autocockers&bhcp=1

stars dont say crap.

and unsticky this or its eventually going to get deleted when the big bad ass comes on (enos shenk). o well, screw it let it get deleted.

cockerkilla99' wrote: vonfeldt7 wrote: Ummm if you don't mind me asking, what exactly is an autococker, I thought that was a brand of gun? thx Autococker- (nickname- cocker). The autococker fires from a closed bolt. It is probably the only gun that fires closed bolt. The auto-cocker system only activates during the last half of the trigger pull. The final portion activates a three way valve that allows CO2 to enter the front side of the activating cylinder. This in turn pushes the cocking block backward approximately 1" and moves the bolt and cocking rod backwards. At this time the hammer latches and a paintball drops into the breech. The bolt and cocking assembly remains in the rearward position until you release the trigger. Releasing the trigger reverses the three-way valve. This vents the CO2 from the front of the activating cylinder and routes CO2 to the rear of the activating cylinder. The cylinder then pulls the cocking block and bolt into the forward position. The gun is now ready to fire. The first half of the next trigger pull releases the hammer, firing the gun, and the second half of the pull repeats the above steps. Or in other words... The basic idea behind the AutoCocker is to take a pump gun and replace the pump handle with a piston to pump the gun automatically. Hence the ram. The ram is controlled by a 3-way valve that is connected to the trigger. The ram, 3-way, and regulator are located under a cover or exposed (most are exposed) on the front of the gun. The cocking block connecting rod run down the left side of the body. It connects the ram to the cocking block. When the trigger is depressed, the 3-way sends Co2 to the back of the ram's piston and it in turn pushes the cocking block back. When this happens, the block pulls the bolt and cocking rod back as well. The bolt is now open which allows a paintball to fall into the chamber. The cocking rod is connected to the hammer, so the hammer is also pulled back until the sear catches on the trigger. When the trigger is released, the 3-way routes Co2 into the front of the piston, pulling the cocking block forward, closing the bolt. The paintgun is now ready to fire. Depressing the trigger again fires the paintball and begins the cycle again. So the autococker will not fire a paintball on the first trigger pull, but rather has to cycle a paintball into the chamber first. http://tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID =119260&KW=autocockers&bhcp=1 - http://tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID =119260&KW=autocockers&bhcp=1 stars dont say crap. and unsticky this or its eventually going to get deleted when the big bad ass comes on (enos shenk). o well, screw it let it get deleted.

ok thx alot

cockerkilla99' wrote: vonfeldt7 wrote: Ummm if you don't mind me asking, what exactly is an autococker, I thought that was a brand of gun? thx Autococker- (nickname- cocker). The autococker fires from a closed bolt. It is probably the only gun that fires closed bolt. The auto-cocker system only activates during the last half of the trigger pull. The final portion activates a three way valve that allows CO2 to enter the front side of the activating cylinder. This in turn pushes the cocking block backward approximately 1" and moves the bolt and cocking rod backwards. At this time the hammer latches and a paintball drops into the breech. The bolt and cocking assembly remains in the rearward position until you release the trigger. And im **edited**. Releasing the trigger reverses the three-way valve. This vents the CO2 from the front of the activating cylinder and routes CO2 to the rear of the activating cylinder. The cylinder then pulls the cocking block and bolt into the forward position. The gun is now ready to fire. The first half of the next trigger pull releases the hammer, firing the gun, and the second half of the pull repeats the above steps. Or in other words... The basic idea behind the AutoCocker is to take a pump gun and replace the pump handle with a piston to pump the gun automatically. Hence the ram. The ram is controlled by a 3-way valve that is connected to the trigger. The ram, 3-way, and regulator are located under a cover or exposed (most are exposed) on the front of the gun. The cocking block connecting rod run down the left side of the body. It connects the ram to the cocking block. When the trigger is depressed, the 3-way sends Co2 to the back of the ram's piston and it in turn pushes the cocking block back. When this happens, the block pulls the bolt and cocking rod back as well. o did i say im **edited** i ment **edited**ing **edited** The bolt is now open which allows a paintball to fall into the chamber. The cocking rod is connected to the hammer, so the hammer is also pulled back until the sear catches on the trigger. When the trigger is released, the 3-way routes Co2 into the front of the piston, pulling the cocking block forward, closing the bolt. The paintgun is now ready to fire. Depressing the trigger again fires the paintball and begins the cycle again. So the autococker will not fire a paintball on the first trigger pull, but rather has to cycle a paintball into the chamber first. http://tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID =119260&KW=autocockers&bhcp=1 - http://tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID =119260&KW=autocockers&bhcp=1 stars dont say crap. and unsticky this or its eventually going to get deleted when the big bad ass comes on (enos shenk). o well, screw it let it get deleted.

Well put (pm me if you see what im saying)