a-5 versus angel
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Topic: a-5 versus angel
Posted By: kcs24reed
Subject: a-5 versus angel
Date Posted: 27 November 2004 at 7:55pm
| why are the autocockers and angels so much better than others in accuracy and why do they shoot so much better than my 98 or a5.do i have to have a expensive barrell or what?can any one explain |
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Posted By: TheHoff
Date Posted: 27 November 2004 at 8:21pm
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learn english, come back, try again. ------------- blame it on the irish.... |
Posted By: Bdc2
Date Posted: 27 November 2004 at 9:43pm
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ill take a shot at this one, hes saying, why are autocockers,angels, all high end guns better(speed-wise?) than his 98 or a-5 to put it simply, theyre faster, lighter/smaller(sometimes) and put together- i mean by like design, closed bolt etc... |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 27 November 2004 at 10:01pm
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No he asked why are they more accurate, i think..? Basically, the stock barrels on tippmann suck. Get a better barrel, i suggest a Lapco bigshot or a J&J Ceramic. Basically high end markers come with much better barrels. ------------- |
Posted By: Dan db09
Date Posted: 27 November 2004 at 10:10pm
| I think he should ask again after he goes back to school then we can answer... |
Posted By: f@ll3n 5nip3r
Date Posted: 27 November 2004 at 11:19pm
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cuz tippmanns suk for speedball in alot of cases stock barrel=suks non electro stock=dumb for speedball ------------- anti: flatline egg 2 fender guitars cyclone xbox live gamertag:fall3n 5nip3r steam tag:fallen sniper ADD ME!!! "SO I bought an Angel, How the hell do I shoot it.." -jmac3 |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 28 November 2004 at 12:46am
| recoil |
Posted By: kcs24reed
Date Posted: 28 November 2004 at 9:15am
| sorry for that post.what i ment was why are these guns more accurate that mine is it the barrell or is it the player? |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 28 November 2004 at 10:01am
| Those are the only 2 choices? |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 28 November 2004 at 1:15pm
Barrel, consistancy, paint. Many variables come into play. Along with, if you suck at aiming you arent going to hit anything. ------------- |
kcs24reed wrote:Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 28 November 2004 at 1:42pm
| recoil.... |
Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 28 November 2004 at 4:45pm
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Posted By: Stormcharger
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 1:11pm
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Crude, but correct. |
Posted By: Satanicsanta090
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 4:50pm
it might seem like that cuz the guys with those guns are shooting so much  Recoil can take ur shot off since the tippmann hammer is a heavy ass lump of steel. If you really want to be as accurate as the high end guns like that, you will need nitro plus a reg or double regs (they all have it), a better barrel (they have those too), and use GOOD paint sized to your bore (most of the guys with high end guns use this too)------------- Setup: Tippmann98c Silver Vein powdercoat Palmer's male stab Ported elbow Double trigger with stop Lapco bigshot Trigger slop mod ricochet ak |
Posted By: jjclown23
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 5:25pm
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Compareing A-5 to Angels is like compareing apples to oranges. ------------- A-5 Response Trigger DOP Blade Trigger Polished Internals X-Chamber Custom Paint 14" J&J |
Posted By: Ihaveanitch
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 5:26pm
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comparing paintball guns to fruit doesn't really make a whole lotta sense to me........but im a retard wut do i kno ------------- 
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Posted By: turismomtrx
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 8:53pm
i too agree |
Posted By: a5guy07
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 8:56pm
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basically top of the line guns come with top of the line barrels - another factor is that the paint to barrel match is perfect b/c of barrel kits. Also, autocockers have closed bolts which are incredibly accurate. Ur a-5 isnt as accurate because of the design and the barrel but it isnt meant to compete with the $1500 guns. ------------- 
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Posted By: jjclown23
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 9:03pm
It's a figure of speech. ------------- A-5 Response Trigger DOP Blade Trigger Polished Internals X-Chamber Custom Paint 14" J&J |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 9:09pm
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About recoil, that has a very minimal effect unless you can't pick up a
banana. I mean, come on. Its a paintball marker. I
can hit just as much with my hunting rifle as with my paintball marker
(Well, you know what i mean).
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Posted By: LordJovian
Date Posted: 30 November 2004 at 12:55am
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Well, Angels use a lower psi which results in less recoil. Also a quiter gun, which is why you tend to stick your head up in front of them. Tippmann just puts a pipe with holes in their guns stock, because they know you're gonna replace them right off the bat. Tippmann prefers to push their Flatline products. Paint bore. Yes, Wal-mart paint is crap compared to that shiny $60 case at the paintball shop. Large bore paint gets stuck in the barrel, causes friction, warping of the paintball, and screws up the accuracy. Cheap paint also has a very hard shell (from regrinding shell sheets) which tends to not break at long ranges. 1. Recoil 2. Barrel 3. Paint Bore (size) My A-5 is just as accurate as an Angel with the right paint. If I pick up paint off the ground (I'd shoot myself before that) then it will never go where I aim. If I spend $60 for a case of 2000 then I can launch paintballs across the field and splatter Angel-wielding 10 year olds before they even fire their gun. My LPK I have added barely affected my recoil, mainly because the stock pretty much eliminated recoil. It would help you though. My barrel also helps to a point, but its a bit too long. It's easy to match "Angel" like power when you have an A-5. A JCS Duel trigger and a trigger mod will give you the same firing rate. I think Angels are a bit over-priced. ------------- A-5 E-grip Chipley Custom Carbon Graphite 16" Evil Adapter(Spyder) 32 Deg New '03 XChamber Remote Line Gun Sling Sniper f/x Stock LPK 68/4500 HPA R-5 CP Reg JCS Duel Trigger |
Posted By: Ihaveanitch
Date Posted: 30 November 2004 at 3:24pm
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Probably the thing i hate most about paintball, all the lil kids getting all the good guns -------------
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 30 November 2004 at 3:25pm
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Consistency, consistency, consistency. (and recoil, recoil, recoil) Angels/cockers/whatever do a much better job than Tippmanns of delivering the same amount and pressure to the paintball each shot. This translates into better accuracy. This can be easily seen at the chrono station. You'll be there with your Tippmann, clocking 298, 290, 295, 287, 294, while the guy next to you with the Angel (using the same barrel and paint as you) will clock 299, 299,297, 298, 300, 297. That means his gun will be more accurate than yours. This is part due to the nature of the mechanism - blowbacks are inherently inconsistent, part due to operating pressure - low pressure gives you a chance to regulate the air better, and partially due to a zillion other small factors. But, after the paint and the barrel, consistency of air to the ball is the largest variable for determining accuracy. |