Angels
Printed From: Tippmann Paintball
Category: Paintball Equipment
Forum Name: Which Gun is Best
Forum Description: Need Advice? Ask the pros.
URL: http://www.tippmannsports.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=119766
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Topic: Angels
Posted By: bilani87
Subject: Angels
Date Posted: 28 November 2004 at 8:35pm
| I am looking at the Angel 05 Speed and the Angel 4 Fly. Besides the LCD on the fly whats the difference between the two? besides price lol |
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Posted By: f@ll3n 5nip3r
Date Posted: 28 November 2004 at 9:01pm
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i think the fly has better eyes but i would get a DM4 instead ------------- anti: flatline egg 2 fender guitars cyclone xbox live gamertag:fall3n 5nip3r steam tag:fallen sniper ADD ME!!! "SO I bought an Angel, How the hell do I shoot it.." -jmac3 |
Posted By: bilani87
Date Posted: 28 November 2004 at 9:11pm
| well, seeing as how i said NOTHING about dm4's i would expect NO dm4 raves. Thanks |
Posted By: oldguy
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 1:17am
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Could be wrong but I think the magnetic trigger is new on the 05 also did the 04 use the copps or eyes? ------------- [IMG] http://www.hondagoldwings.com/images/cliparts/animations/hir ider.gif"> |
Posted By: BuffaloSolda1
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 1:54pm
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I think it used cops but not sure. ------------- TK by PB4MS.COM |
Posted By: Rico's Revenge
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 2:18pm
| I don't believe it was even COPS was it? I thought it used Sensi... either way, they are NOT eyes. |
Posted By: bilani87
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 2:34pm
| so you think the 05 speed is a better buy? |
Posted By: gnarkill
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 2:55pm
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yeah you were right it was sensi not cops. Even though i like dm`s better... get the 05 speed and use the money you saved to get an adjustable tank... ------------- 
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Rico's Revenge wrote:Posted By: Rico's Revenge
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 3:33pm
| Personally, if I were to buy an Angel, it would be the Force Fly. The Speeds that I have been around have had some chopping problems. Why are you so hung up on Angels? Have you played with them before? |
Posted By: P8ntblldude
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 3:46pm
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You should buy the JD Fly, those are hott. ------------- *Team Compulsive* Sponsors *Won-Ago-Biking* *Curleys Waterfront* |
Posted By: bilani87
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 5:12pm
| im not hung up on angels, those two markers just appeal to me. Whats the difference between Angels and Dm's then? |
Posted By: Rico's Revenge
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 5:25pm
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^^ Thats cool... you must be drawn to the marker. IMO, the Matrix, specifically the DM4/5 shoot much smoother, with better accuracy and with just as much speed. The eye system is incredible and you will rarely, if ever chop paint. My suggestion is to hang out at the local field and look for all types of markers to "borrow." Even if only at the chrono range. Don't fall for the "simulate" modes... almost every marker will bounce/ramp and make you feel like a god when not shooting paint. Shoot them with paint and concentrate on how each one feels and fits your style. You are talking about spending a bunch of cash, do as much research as possible. Asking here is great, but opinions are like... well you know. |
Posted By: reticule
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 5:43pm
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Listen to Rico; good advice. But back to the 05 speed VS fly differences: 05 speed is lighter 05 speed has a 9V battery source, not a proprietary rechargable Fly has an LCD, 05 speed uses LED (i.e. 05 speed doesn't have the useless multi modes) Fly comes with volumizer, 05 speed doesn't 05 speed uses new trigger frame and trigger (magnetized return) and return strength cannot be adjusted without modifications Similarities: 05 speed and fly internals are the same 05 speed and fly eyes are the same Rico is correct with the DM4/5 firing behavior, and it is indeed extremely soft on paint. The only downfall I see with the dm4 is efficiency (I'm lazy and rather have not have to visit the fill station too often) and cold climate (gun may experience pressure loss and require relubrication). As for rate of fire, all three guns above are the same. However, trigger preference will play heavily on how fast you shoot. ------------- '...in order to use that particular insult, it really helps if you spell it properly. Nothing quite spells out "irony" as well as calling somebody "retarted."' -Clark Kent on Tippmann forumer |
Posted By: bilani87
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 6:10pm
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hmm, thanks for the advice reticule and Rico's Revenge. Ill see if i can test fire some different markers to get a good idea on them. Thanks people.
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Posted By: Rick_James
Date Posted: 03 December 2004 at 3:29pm
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If you're looking in the price range of the 05 Speed, you might want
to check out the Proto Matrix. Pretty much a lighter, economy version of the DM4. It's $950, and it's a really good buy. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 December 2004 at 4:33pm
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COPS = IR3 Sensi = Regular A4, 04 Speed Eyes = A4 Fly, 05 Speed
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Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 04 December 2004 at 4:00pm
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The difference between the 2 are the following: Speed has a Magnetic Trigger with new Opto Sensor There are ofhter smaller differences but they do not affect performance. The Speed is basicly a Fly, but with a few better features.
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Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 04 December 2004 at 4:02pm
Thats probably because you have never been around a correctly tunned Angel. If you have you would want one yourself.... |
Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 04 December 2004 at 4:03pm
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The 04 Speed uses LDS/ Sensi. The IR3 used COPS.
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