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Topic: Airport Security & Paintball Equipment
Posted By: Kevin Z
Subject: Airport Security & Paintball Equipment
Date Posted: 01 December 2004 at 6:55pm
http://www.nationalpaintball.com/html/pr_tsalaws.asp - National Paintball Press Release
http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1745.xml - Transportation Security Administration

Transporting Paintball Equipment

Sewell, NJ – Historically the transportation of compressed air cylinders via commercial aircraft required you to empty the cylinder before checking it. This was true for paintball and SCUBA cylinders. Over the past couple of months the rules have changed. One interpretation of these rules required paintball markers to be treated as firearms and another would have allowed SCUBA tanks in overhead! In an exclusive interview with Ron Sokolov, TSA's Executive Director of Customer Service and Education, Paintball2Xtremes has learned that effective immediately, the rules are as follows:

Transporting Paintball Equipment

Some paintball gear can be transported on-board the aircraft. Please refer to the guidelines below:

    * Eye Protective Devices used in the sport of paintball are acceptable as checked or carry-on baggage.
    * Compressed gas cylinders are allowed in checked baggage ONLY if the regulator valve is completely disconnected from the cylinder and the cylinder is no longer sealed (i.e. the cylinder has an open end). The cylinder must have an opening to allow for a visual inspection inside. TSA Security Screeners will NOT remove the seal/regulator valve from the cylinder at the checkpoint. If the cylinder is sealed (i.e. the regulator valve is still attached), the cylinder is prohibited and not permitted through the security checkpoint, regardless of the reading on the pressure gauge indicator. TSA Security Screeners must visibly ensure that the cylinder is completely empty and that there are no prohibited items inside.
    * Markers (aka Paintball Guns) are prohibited from carry-on luggage. These items should be packed in checked luggage. These are not considered a firearm and may be transported in unlocked, soft or hard sided luggage.


If you plan to fly with your cylinder you must do the following:

   1. Have a properly trained and qualified person remove the regulator/valve from your cylinder.
   2. Go to http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1745. xml and print four copies of the page.
   3. Using a rubber band place one copy around your cylinder.
   4. Place your cylinder without the regulator/valve in your checked baggage.
   5. Give one copy of the page to the person where you check in at the airport.
   6. Keep the other two copies for the flight home.



Please note that this is a brand new change for TSA and the airlines. There may still be some risk that your cylinder will be confiscated, so make every effort to inform the screeners and airline personnel. If it looks like they will not allow your cylinder to be transported, you should ship it to your hotel. Please forward this to as many paintball players as possible and feel free to copy and paste it in it's entirety on paintball newsgroups and forums.

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Posted By: surfnbrad
Date Posted: 01 December 2004 at 6:57pm
nice topic

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Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 01 December 2004 at 8:24pm
Nice topic but I dont think this should be a sticky.....

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Posted By: matt06
Date Posted: 01 December 2004 at 9:18pm
Originally posted by Ilovepaintball1 Ilovepaintball1 wrote:

Nice topic but I dont think this should be a sticky.....
shush up...
i think its pretty dang sticky worthy....might keep us from having to answer the next smacktard that comes through here asking how to transfer his paintball stuff....


Posted By: boomstick
Date Posted: 01 December 2004 at 10:03pm
I always wondered how you would go about doing something like this. Deffinitly sticky worthy.

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Posted By: rootsradicals
Date Posted: 01 December 2004 at 10:08pm
nice, gg, i wish i would have known that when i went to colorado in the summer, i missed out at some air-ballin' at some kids house($uper rich)

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Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 02 December 2004 at 7:36am
Good post.

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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 02 December 2004 at 9:08am

Originally posted by Ilovepaintball1 Ilovepaintball1 wrote:

Nice topic but I dont think this should be a sticky.....

I do



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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 02 December 2004 at 5:57pm

good post



Posted By: jjclown23
Date Posted: 02 December 2004 at 10:04pm
its good, i just dont get why somebody would waste there time unscrewing the top of there co2 or hpa just to bring it on the plane with them when they could leave it shut and then they put it in the cargo hold.

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Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 02 December 2004 at 10:07pm
Originally posted by Ilovepaintball1 Ilovepaintball1 wrote:

DEFINItLY STICKY WORTHY!!!


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Posted By: ekeboo
Date Posted: 02 December 2004 at 10:11pm
Moron^^

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Posted By: Multi-Colored J
Date Posted: 03 December 2004 at 5:27pm
ekeboo, please be quiet.

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Posted By: Picasso
Date Posted: 03 December 2004 at 6:27pm

If you are only flying out to a game somewhere,  consider putting youre equipment it in a brown box,  pay the $10 or $12, and ship it to someone at the other end.

Removing the Reg. isn't rocket science, but then you introduce a chance for a leak when it is reassembled...and right before a game.

The other option,  is borrow a tank from someone at the location you are flying to.

Now,  I'm thinking you could remove the Fill Nipple on an HPA tank,  and that leaves an "open end"...just bring a wrench and some teflon tape and re-install it at your destination.

I'd remove the fill nipple,  but removing the  regulator,  nah,  I'dstay away from that.

On a Co2 bottle,  you could remove the Burst disc nut...it would then be an open container also.

 



Posted By: Kevin Z
Date Posted: 03 December 2004 at 6:57pm
No, taking the burst disk or the fill nipple off is not adequate.

"The cylinder must have an opening to allow for a visual inspection inside." "TSA Security Screeners must visibly ensure that the cylinder is completely empty and that there are no prohibited items inside."

Also for "jjclown23" the valve has to be removed to get the tank on the plane at all. Not just carry-on.

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Posted By: tippmann89c
Date Posted: 04 December 2004 at 12:20am

Nice post.



Posted By: jjclown23
Date Posted: 04 December 2004 at 10:38am
Thanks Kevin for clearing that up.

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Posted By: pballa j.r.
Date Posted: 05 December 2004 at 12:46pm
Originally posted by Kevin Z Kevin Z wrote:

No, taking the burst disk or the fill nipple off is not adequate.

"The cylinder must have an opening to allow for a visual inspection inside." "TSA Security Screeners must visibly ensure that the cylinder is completely empty and that there are no prohibited items inside."

Also for "jjclown23" the valve has to be removed to get the tank on the plane at all. Not just carry-on.


He is right on both issues.


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Posted By: impulse
Date Posted: 05 December 2004 at 2:03pm
I say ship the tank. Not worth the hassle of taking the reg. off. If it was a co2 tank I would just buy a new one when I got there.

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 06 December 2004 at 2:10pm
Thanx  for the well thought post there Kevin...

I Read as much as my brian could handle but, in the end you have to go to WAY to much trouble to go threw with it though...

I'm going to WI, in August for a couple of weeks, i'm just ganna go threw UPS to deliver it to the house ill be staying at...  I dont think I wanna Strip my equipment down to the last little detail, and then the Air port will probably loose it so... I dont think I'm ganna go threw with that.


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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 07 December 2004 at 8:42pm
*Claps*

Useful info...glad I know it now.


Posted By: evil-NYX
Date Posted: 08 December 2004 at 7:36pm
i always wondered if you could shipped pball stuff on a plane...but i drive everywhere, so that wont be a problem

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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 1:27am
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by Ilovepaintball1 Ilovepaintball1 wrote:

Nice topic but I dont think this should be a sticky.....


I do



I deffinitly think this should be stickied. I didn't know about the valve thing, so that's handy to know.

Good job


Posted By: TippmannA5User
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 9:39pm

nice post, it is stickie worthy.

I was wondereing about this, and thanks for putting it up.



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Posted By: CaffineAddict
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 2:06am

I have just a bit of experience in this area. From experience, you don't have to do anything to your c02 tank, just empty it and then demonstrate to the TSA agent that it is empty by depressing the pin valve.



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Posted By: For Honor
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 10:01am
yeah my friend was wondering about this last summer

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Posted By: Death_master
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 8:16pm


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Posted By: Lt. BUTCHER
Date Posted: 10 January 2005 at 9:03am

Originally posted by impulse impulse wrote:

I say ship the tank. Not worth the hassle of taking the reg. off. If it was a co2 tank I would just buy a new one when I got there.

why waste $25 on a tank that ur only going to use a few days just rent one or borrow one if you have a friend there. most fields allow you to just rent a tank

thanks for the info it's going to be verry helpfull when i go to oklahoma's d-day



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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 12 January 2005 at 1:09pm
Originally posted by Death_master Death_master wrote:


What kind of post is that?


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Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 17 January 2005 at 2:12am
Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

Originally posted by Death_master Death_master wrote:


What kind of post is that?


A stupid kind.... Like this.


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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 9:11am
Good post. I think is stupid to have to take apart your tank to have it sent to a game. We're traveling to the World Cup this year and I don't know what we're going to do if we fly. Im not taking my reg apart that I know.

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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 14 February 2005 at 10:34pm

can we unstickey this now? i think everyone has seen it.

-me



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Posted By: OldSkoolBaller
Date Posted: 15 February 2005 at 12:15pm

 

Thanks for the useful info, quality post



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Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 2:51pm
Originally posted by pb125 pb125 wrote:

can we unstickey this now? i think everyone has seen it.


-me


Think about the people WILL join this forum in the future, not just yourself. If it's really bothering you that much, don't keep reading the thread.


Posted By: tofumonkee
Date Posted: 21 February 2005 at 9:28pm
cept for me
and like 20000 other forumers, but u kno we dont care, i dont travel with my gear
i mean why would you


Posted By: Curlyman666
Date Posted: 26 February 2005 at 12:08pm

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thats crazy.... 



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Posted By: RockinPorsche
Date Posted: 26 February 2005 at 12:29pm
^^^ How'd he get so many posts??!

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Posted By: bafrank@att.net
Date Posted: 28 February 2005 at 9:30am
I travel a lot with my gear. I also treveled this past Christmas ('04) and had no problem with checking my empty cylinders (CO2) with the overpressure blowout disk removed. I wish I had known this information. I lucked out in not loosing cylinders. BTW, when I pasted the .gov link for the information literature I get a 404 error.

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Posted By: bafrank@att.net
Date Posted: 28 February 2005 at 9:32am
Originally posted by pb125 pb125 wrote:

can we unstickey this now? i think everyone has seen it.

-me

Well, I didn't see it until Feb. 2005! Leave it up!



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Posted By: bafrank@att.net
Date Posted: 28 February 2005 at 9:41am
Originally posted by CaffineAddict CaffineAddict wrote:

I have just a bit of experience in this area. From experience, you don't have to do anything to your c02 tank, just empty it and then demonstrate to the TSA agent that it is empty by depressing the pin valve.

This is a new regulation, but you have lucked out in the past. I have always had to remove the pressure blowout disk or the cylinder would have to be thrown away. You have luckily run across airline agents who understood how to recognize empty cylinders (most would not) or just didn't understand the potential danger. Also for those that do not know, you cannot legally ship full cylinders either (FedEx or UPS or anyother method)



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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 28 February 2005 at 9:43am
Originally posted by Curlyman666 Curlyman666 wrote:

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thats crazy.... 



The mods did that...

just like they sometimes give people -242342 posts...


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Date Posted: 03 March 2005 at 8:08pm
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Posted By: N8s Silver 98c
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 1:50pm
I think this is one of the most important i have read so far!  Thanks!

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