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Topic: impulses
Posted By: MiKePuNk
Subject: impulses
Date Posted: 06 December 2004 at 7:39pm
are these good guns?..never shot one before..heard they were heavier then most guns



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Posted By: The Man
Date Posted: 06 December 2004 at 7:45pm
Impys are POS. You could commit sucide by jumping off the hopper on an impy.

Get a ICD bushy.


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Posted By: Ariakon_Eagle
Date Posted: 06 December 2004 at 7:47pm

If your gonna get a impy, get one from Firballmountain(a gothic). Those rip. Otherwise get a b2k4/b2k5. Those are nice to.



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Posted By: P8ntblldude
Date Posted: 06 December 2004 at 7:54pm
if you get an Impy get a Rat Jr.

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Posted By: DRAGON
Date Posted: 07 December 2004 at 2:09am
Get an Imp......mine weighs 3.5lbs so whoever you heard that from needs to lift weights more often. You can use C02 or N2 with an Imp. Most other medium to high end markers cannot make that claim. There are a gazillion upgrades available for them. If you shot mine you would say, "To die for". Don't listen to the broken record comments made by some on these boards about Impulses. They make the exact same whimsical asinine comments in about every thread posted about the Pulse -


Posted By: Bdc2
Date Posted: 07 December 2004 at 5:45pm
force of nature has a video of a WAS'ed Rat impulse, it nice and fast. Check it out, maybe ull like it


Posted By: f@ll3n 5nip3r
Date Posted: 07 December 2004 at 7:37pm

Originally posted by The Man The Man wrote:

Impys are POS. You could commit sucide by jumping off the hopper on an impy.

Get a ICD bushy.

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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 07 December 2004 at 8:01pm

Originally posted by DRAGON DRAGON wrote:

Get an Imp......mine weighs 3.5lbs so whoever you heard that from needs to lift weights more often. You can use C02 or N2 with an Imp. Most other medium to high end markers cannot make that claim. There are a gazillion upgrades available for them. If you shot mine you would say, "To die for". Don't listen to the broken record comments made by some on these boards about Impulses. They make the exact same whimsical asinine comments in about every thread posted about the Pulse -

A gazillion upgrdes eh? What does that say about the marker as a whole?

And as mentoined before, you could indeed die for an impy, if only by jumping off the top, or having it drop on you.

And why wouldnt other makrers be able to run off co2? My viking can, as can most other high end markers. Its just recomended that you use nitrogen to keep up with the rate of fire most markers can make.



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Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 07 December 2004 at 8:59pm
^ Also C02 is dirty.. hurts the noid. Even though your using it on an Imp.. it isnt good for it.

How does an aftermarket body make the gun faster Arikon?

Dont waste your money and time on an Imp.


Posted By: evil-NYX
Date Posted: 07 December 2004 at 9:22pm

imp is good, if you upgrade enuff...icd is better tho



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Posted By: DRAGON
Date Posted: 08 December 2004 at 12:24pm
Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:


A gazillion upgrdes eh? What does that say about the marker as a whole?



That tells me that there is a lot of them being sold. Manufactrers don't process aftermarket parts for markers that aren't in great demand. Why are there so many upgrades for Timmy's and other in high demand markers? Because there is an in demand profit to be made. So as a whole, Imps are in great demand thus a great marker otherwise there would be no demand. If you were an investor, would you invest in a company that was in the Talon upgrade market? lol -

Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:


And why wouldnt other makrers be able to run off co2? My viking can, as can most other high end markers. Its just recomended that you use nitrogen to keep up with the rate of fire most markers can make.



Well sure, you can actually ruin any marker on C02 if you don't mind replacing the noid and regulator parts every time you use it lol. Seems that you're a little weak in the paintball knowlege department. I will outline this one for you as well. The Max-Flo is one of only regulators that can handle C02 in a proficient manner. The Palmer's is another well known for it's capacity to handle C02 decently well. Both not only regulate but help keep liquid from passing through it. This in turn prevents liquid C02 from entering a $100 electro-pneumatic solenoid to incompacitate it. I used anti-siphoned C02 on my Impulse for over a year before I saved enough for an N2 tank and had absolutely no probs at all with it. Shots and velocity are just a bit more consistant now -

Kindly explain how nitro surpasses C02 in keeping up with the rof when a C02 tank has a higher output pressure than a regulated N2 tank. When changing from C02 to N2 on my Imp, I needed to increase the pressure because of the approximate 150+ psi decrease in pressure between the two. When testing the output pressure between My Crossy and C02 tank, the Crossy was at 750psi and the C02 tank was at 950psi. A higher pressure output from the tank will naturally feed the marker faster at a higher rate, that's elementary physics or even general logic -

Your above quoted comment is in error, the reason that it's recommended to use N2 in higher end markers is because 1) the regs cannot handle C02 & 2) the noids cannot handle it either -

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Posted By: KaptainKickAce
Date Posted: 08 December 2004 at 1:57pm

Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:


How does an aftermarket body make the gun faster Arikon?

It can help to make it cycle faster IF the bore is smoother.

And even though alot of you hate smart parts they still make really good stuff. And I'm sorry but they had a right to go after AKA and trust me I love AKA they make good stuff too.

I love my Imp and I still have alot of stuff to do to it...alot



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Posted By: A-5 bunkerking
Date Posted: 08 December 2004 at 3:30pm
Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:



Dont waste your money and time on an Imp.


Posted By: Gumbe02
Date Posted: 08 December 2004 at 8:48pm
well i plan on getting an impy, unless one fo you can change my mind it out of the 04 cocker vert and the impy, whitch one is heaver by the way

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Posted By: FalloutMan
Date Posted: 08 December 2004 at 8:58pm
Originally posted by KaptainKickAce KaptainKickAce wrote:

Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:

How does an aftermarket body make the gun faster Arikon?


It can help to make it cycle faster IF the bore is smoother.


And even though alot of you hate smart parts they still make really good stuff. And I'm sorry but they had a right to go after AKA and trust me I love AKA they make good stuff too.


I love my Imp and I still have alot of stuff to do to it...alot




the smoothness of the bore wont make a difference unless you glued sandpaper on the inside of your gun.

and smart parts DOES NOT make quality products, every smart parts product or smart parts affiliated product i have owned has had terrible quality.

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Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 08 December 2004 at 10:06pm
Get a b2k4 or b2k5 with PDS they rip and as a whole are much better than an IMP if you are goin to want to spend alot of cash upgrading your gun to make it your own go with the imp. But if you will be keeping the gun close to stock get a Bushy.

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Posted By: impulse4life
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 7:53pm
impys are sick i own 3 but go for the rat jr and trick it out.......and no it isnt heavy


Posted By: Gumbe02
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 8:27pm
well i am talking aobut the impy basic right now, i dont need an amazing gun right now i want one that will kinda grow with me as i get better so willl it

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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 8:38pm
The only reason there are a ton of upgrades for the Impy is because tons of little kids go crying to their mommies because they want the new-fangled gadgets. The reason they have Impys is because they didn't do their homework. B2k4 owns an Impy any day.


Posted By: Gumbe02
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 9:59pm
do they know, that why my proshop doesnt even carrie them, they said the impy is better quality, and can surpass the preformce of the b2k4

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Posted By: rootsradicals
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 10:44pm
i have a lot to say about them, to sum it all up in one word...

tall



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Posted By: Gumbe02
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 7:40am
welll you can change the feed neaks, ether than that i dont think they are really tall, they are compaired to some but i dont mind the tallness

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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 9:47am
Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

Originally posted by DRAGON DRAGON wrote:

Get an Imp......mine weighs 3.5lbs so whoever you heard that from needs to lift weights more often. You can use C02 or N2 with an Imp. Most other medium to high end markers cannot make that claim. There are a gazillion upgrades available for them. If you shot mine you would say, "To die for". Don't listen to the broken record comments made by some on these boards about Impulses. They make the exact same whimsical asinine comments in about every thread posted about the Pulse -

A gazillion upgrdes eh? What does that say about the marker as a whole?

And as mentoined before, you could indeed die for an impy, if only by jumping off the top, or having it drop on you.

And why wouldnt other makrers be able to run off co2? My viking can, as can most other high end markers. Its just recomended that you use nitrogen to keep up with the rate of fire most markers can make.

Agreed, Also Impys ARE not the only Markers that can use co2 and HPA. Alias Timmys can also use Co2 but it is not reccommended. In the BL owners manual it says you can use HPA OR CO2 but you must use a remote or some type of expansion extension. So yes you Dragon are wrong. Also I have owned the the Impy and I can tell you it is a heavy POS. The fact is you can buy a much more reliable and alot lighter gun and not have to deal with all the problems that Impys have. Everything is wrong with Impys. Thier heavy, unreliable, extreamly uneffcient in gas, need tons of upgrades to make it anywhere near good, the eye system is poop, the gun is to tall, and the aluminum is made of swiss cheese. To the person who started this thread don't make the same mistake I did, Buy a good high-end gun.



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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 9:53am

Originally posted by impulse4life impulse4life wrote:

impys are sick i own 3 but go for the rat jr and trick it out.......and no it isnt heavy

Its not heavy huh. Well I thought the same thing until I tried other guns and let me tell you compared to mags, Alias and Empire Timmies, Angels and other high-end guns the Impy is very heavy. Go try those guns and then come back and tell me the Impy isn't heavy. I tried a fully loaded Alias TImmy(Halo Bloader and 88 HPA tank) before I bought mine  and it was still lighter then my impy fully loaded and My Impy had a smaller tank and a smaller loader.  



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Posted By: Gumbe02
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 11:53am
ok scarface22 really why would so many people have impy an recomend them if they suck so bad? , you need to work out if you think they are heavy, yes they are heavy compaired that the 1000 + guns, and swiss chess, hmmmm never heard of that complaint about these marker, only about the shocker. Also the eye system is poo, i dont under stand that can you please explain how the "eye system" is poop

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Posted By: DRAGON
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 2:13pm
Originally posted by ScarFace22 ScarFace22 wrote:


..........Everything is wrong with Impys. Thier heavy, unreliable, extreamly uneffcient in gas, need tons of upgrades to make it anywhere near good, the eye system is poop, the gun is to tall, and the aluminum is made of swiss cheese. To the person who started this thread don't make the same mistake I did, Buy a good high-end gun.



This is some of the broken record statements I posted about. If you look at his past posts I'm quite sure he C&P's these responses lol. BTW FYI........an Impulse is a mid range marker not even close to the price of most Timmy's, DM4's, ect -

It's obvious that the only reason these phonographs are posting in these threads is because of a deep set prejudice about a law suit that essentially turned out to be nothing at all. None of the nightmares proclaimed by these Smart Part flamers ever came true. Anyone with the slightest bit of intellect could see through this repetative negative asinine jumble lol -


Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 2:24pm
So many people reccomend them huh...well in this thread alone more people have reccomended not to get the Impy and have told you straight out that they are a POS. Also most of the people who said this are former owners of Impy's including me. I think they would know better then anyone how much of a true POS impys are. Why do people buy them, one word HYPE. Lets repeat this again since it seems you have trouble listening to people...its calles HYPE!!!! Smart Farts leads people to believe that Impys are SOOOO great yet the truth is they are one of the worst and cheaply made guns on the market. I don't know how you could have never heard of the Impy being made of Swiss Cheese aluminum. The Alumuinum is about the cheapest quality anything can be made of. The threads strip like crazy and one little wrong move and opps there goes the threading now i have to dump tons of money to get it helicoiled or send it to SP and wait 10 months to get my Impy back. The Solnoid is "jerryriged". That along with the lack of an LPR will eventually lead to a total solnoid blow out. Notice though that all the high-end guns come with good solnoids, good boards, and an LPR. The Impy Trigger is poop and it is either to long or to stiff also SP is so cheap they can't even make the trigger adjustable you have to dump $40 down the toilet to get an adjustable trigger. The max flo is poop and can't recharge fast enough, this leads to constant FSDO which has never been solved by the "brianiacs" at Smart Parts. None of the internals are delrin and the aluminum guts lead to bad gas effciency and severe wearing of the breech. The eye system of SP is a freaking joke and its not secret that it only works half the time its on. The Eyes are made to detect the dropping motion of the paintball which is one of the problems. All the other GOOD eye systems are made to detect the ball in the breech not while its dropping into the breech. Also SP trashy eyes are reflective not break beams. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that dark colors absorb light. Well it seems that the people at SP were to dumb to fiugure this out. They used a reflective eye that doesn't work when dark paint is being used. The laser shoots out and instead of bouncing back and telling the gun that there is a paintball in the breech the laser just gets absorbed into the paintball. I would never buy another POS like an Impy and I would never recommend anyone wasting any amount of money on a POS like a Smart Farts Impy.

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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 2:26pm

Originally posted by DRAGON DRAGON wrote:


It's obvious that the only reason these phonographs are posting in these threads is because of a deep set prejudice about a law suit that essentially turned out to be nothing at all. None of the nightmares proclaimed by these Smart Part flamers ever came true. Anyone with the slightest bit of intellect could see through this repetative negative asinine jumble lol -

Or as I said before So many people reccomend them huh...well in this thread alone more people have reccomended not to get the Impy and have told you straight out that they are a POS. Also most of the people who said this are former owners of Impy's including me. I think they would know better then anyone how much of a true POS impys are. Why do people buy them, one word HYPE. Lets repeat this again since it seems you have trouble listening to people...its calles HYPE!!!!Asinie or maybe its just the truth..the truth that you can't handle.



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Posted By: Opossum
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 5:01pm
Well i personally dont like impulses, one kid that i play with has one and it is nice its shoots pretty fast. Ive shot it a few times, personally i didnt like it at all. He got it from our "pro shop" (they're a joke) and spent an arm and a leg to get it along with some upgrades, and if you ask me, he overpayed for what he got. I mean its fast but not that fast, and like i said it feels weird when you shoot it. So if it were me who was getting a new gun i would either go with a bladed cocker, or a ICD gun of some sort.

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Posted By: Gumbe02
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 5:43pm
ok this tippmann fourm thing is the ONLY one i have been on that hated them So much, i dont know why, and metle bolt  the one i saw the basic impy has a derlin bolt. none the less are you saying that my proshop is lieng to me?, that other people from other fourm are miss leading me?... then let me ask you think what marker/gun should i get that is in thr CANDIAN price of 550?

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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 7:23pm

The Impy comes stock with a aluminum bolt unless you find a site that is giving some special deal and is selling an Impy with a delrin bolt. Why do people hate them so much here, as I said before almost all the people who are telling you the Impy is a bad gun are people who have had first hand experiences of just how bad the Impy is. The only person in here who is really pro-Impy is Dragon.



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Posted By: gnarkill
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 8:17pm

Originally posted by Gumbe02 Gumbe02 wrote:

ok scarface22 really why would so many people have impy an recomend them if they suck so bad? , you need to work out if you think they are heavy, yes they are heavy compaired that the 1000 + guns, and swiss chess, hmmmm never heard of that complaint about these marker, only about the shocker. Also the eye system is poo, i dont under stand that can you please explain how the "eye system" is poop

weird.. i held the vision impy at my local store and it felt lighter than my old dm4..

 



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Posted By: Gumbe02
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 8:23pm

hahahah your a joke kid, the people promoting them are the guy that own them,



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Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 9:08pm

SP offers a delrin bolt.  Not sure if they come on stockers but shops may use take-offs on "aftermarket" guns that guys want nd bolts etc. for and put them on stock guns that they sell.

here's one i picked up today for tomarrows eye test session. At 1 1/8 ounce it checks in pretty light for a full length bolt.  Can't wait to weigh it after I hack the back off.



Posted By: DRAGON
Date Posted: 11 December 2004 at 2:58am
Watch where you cut that bolt off at. You prolly noticed it but there is a set screw inside that holds the spring and detent in and if you cut it forward of that it'll ruin the bolt. Gonna make a stubby eh?


Posted By: [Mr. Smith]
Date Posted: 11 December 2004 at 3:40am
Originally posted by KaptainKickAce KaptainKickAce wrote:

Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:


How does an aftermarket body make the gun faster Arikon?

It can help to make it cycle faster IF the bore is smoother.

And even though alot of you hate smart parts they still make really good stuff. And I'm sorry but they had a right to go after AKA and trust me I love AKA they make good stuff too.

I love my Imp and I still have alot of stuff to do to it...alot


ok are you talking about the solenoid cycling or the bolt cycling, cause the solenoid cycling is toal irelivant to the frame, and getting a new frame, if better will help the bolt cycle sooooo little it wouldnt be worth 10$. also the smothness of the inside is determined by lube, not the inside of the gun, all gun are generaly pretty smoth.


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Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 11 December 2004 at 6:50am

Originally posted by DRAGON DRAGON wrote:

Watch where you cut that bolt off at. You prolly noticed it but there is a set screw inside that holds the spring and detent in and if you cut it forward of that it'll ruin the bolt. Gonna make a stubby eh?

Thanks for the tip.  I've already hacked an ND bolt and they're pretty much the same at the back.  I had time to cut the SP bolt last night and cut it tighter than my ND.

Off for the eye test.  Be back with vids later.



Posted By: FalloutMan
Date Posted: 11 December 2004 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by Gumbe02 Gumbe02 wrote:

ok scarface22 really why would so many people have impy an recomend them if they suck so bad? , you need to work out if you think they are heavy, yes they are heavy compaired that the 1000 + guns, and swiss chess, hmmmm never heard of that complaint about these marker, only about the shocker. Also the eye system is poo, i dont under stand that can you please explain how the "eye system" is poop


alot of people own KIA's and geo's too. and my 200 dollar mag was lighter than my $700 impulse. reflective eyes are used in smart parts guns, most other guns use breakbeams which are more reliable.

ive owned an impulse
ive owned a freak kit
ive owned a maxflow tank
i sold the impulse
i sold the maxflow tank
the freak kit sits in my closet because i cant sell it locally because of all the other people that have owned smart parts products make it so noone will buy them anymore.

and you would wonder why i dont recommend impulses?

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Posted By: DRAGON
Date Posted: 11 December 2004 at 11:53pm
So are you saying that not having an eye at all is better than a reflective eye or just trying to find a little nitch to poke at SP about? How is a breakbeam eye system more reliable?. Do the reflective eyes tend to break down more often or something? The only advantage of a breakbeam eye over reflective is that it has a greater threshold to black paint than a reflective eye. That has nothing to do with reliability but more to do with having a better response to black paint. I suppose if that is the case it can be simply resolved by not using black paint lol -

As far as buying and selling markers goes, in case you didn't notice, a lot of people buy markers and sell them because they get old, don't like them or in general want to move on to something else. So 'NEWS FLASH', you selling your Imp is not an isolated case as you so illusively portray it lol. Everybody wants a Freak kit, if you haven't sold it chances are you're asking too much for it. Put it up in the BST forums at PBN and see how long it lasts there lol -


Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 2:50am
Freak kits were cool when people thought bore sizing mattered.

Imps just are not the best choice in thier price range. Simply suggesting looking at something thats more bang for your buck, better overal.


Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 12:44pm

Civilian.  What's the latest info you have on bore sizing not being important?  You're probably refering to accuracy only eh?

My own efficiency tests have shown that there is what I consider to be a significant difference in efficiency between a good fit and a poor fit.

For speedball tournies it may not be a big deal.  If you only have a single bore barrel and you switch paint all of the time just adjust the pressure/dwell and hit the fill it yourself air lines between each game.

For big games etc. EVERY ounce counts for me so I don't spend time in air lines.  I bring enough air to these types of games to last all weekend and the paint to match my supply of air.

4 cases of paint, 4 20 oz. c02 bottles and a 68/4500 kicker just incase my efficiency might be off.



Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 2:34pm

Originally posted by FalloutMan FalloutMan wrote:

alot of people own KIA's and geo's too. and my 200 dollar mag was lighter than my $700 impulse. reflective eyes are used in smart parts guns, most other guns use breakbeams which are more reliable.

ive owned an impulse ( I have to and after seeing just how baad they are I agree they're poop guns)
ive owned a freak kit (I have to but I disagree with you here. I personally still love my Freak and its probably the only thing I like from SP's. I like my Freak so much that I plan on getting another one for my Alias Timmy.
ive owned a maxflow tank
i sold the impulse ( I don't blame you I did to and I woke up and got a real tourney gun not a POS "wannabe") 
i sold the maxflow tank
the freak kit sits in my closet because i cant sell it locally because of all the other people that have owned smart parts products make it so noone will buy them anymore.

and you would wonder why i dont recommend impulses?

I everything you said except for the part about the Freak.

Originally posted by DRAGON DRAGON wrote:

So are you saying that not having an eye at all is better than a reflective eye or just trying to find a little nitch to poke at SP about? How is a breakbeam eye system more reliable?. Do the reflective eyes tend to break down more often or something? The only advantage of a breakbeam eye over reflective is that it has a greater threshold to black paint than a reflective eye. That has nothing to do with reliability but more to do with having a better response to black paint. I suppose if that is the case it can be simply resolved by not using black paint lol -

In many ways yes I would rather have no eye system then one that only works 2% of the time and yes refelctive eyes are much more reliable. Thats why you hear of people complaining of SP eye and not Angels and other eye systems that use break beam technology. The eye system of SP is a freaking joke and its not secret that it only works half the time its on. The Eyes are made to detect the dropping motion of the paintball which is one of the problems. All the other GOOD eye systems are made to detect the ball in the breech not while its dropping into the breech. Also SP trashy eyes are reflective not break beams. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that dark colors absorb light. Well it seems that the people at SP were to dumb to figure this out. They used a reflective eye that doesn't work when dark paint is being used. The laser shoots out and instead of bouncing back and telling the gun that there is a paintball in the breech the laser just gets absorbed into the paintball.

Originally posted by DRAGON DRAGON wrote:

As far as buying and selling markers goes, in case you didn't notice, a lot of people buy markers and sell them because they get old, don't like them or in general want to move on to something else. So 'NEWS FLASH', you selling your Imp is not an isolated case as you so illusively portray it lol. Everybody wants a Freak kit, if you haven't sold it chances are you're asking too much for it. Put it up in the BST forums at PBN and see how long it lasts there lol -

Actually maybe if you actually got over your bias feelings towards the Impy and took a look around you would see tons of people are selling Impys. Hmm wonder why could it be that MOST people realize just how bad and trashy quality they really are. I also disagree that people just sell guns to get something new. Most people sell thier guns because 1) the gun they thought was perfect for them ends up not being what it cracked up to be (hmm sounds alot like the Impy) so they buy something new until they find the gun thats perfect for them. I know that happened to me and now I found the gun that I think is perfect for me. The other reason is that the person or people are on a sponsered team and get sponsered by a certain gun company, well they might give up on that sponsership and move on to someone else forcing them to get a new gun.

Originally posted by Gumbe02 Gumbe02 wrote:

hahahah your a joke kid, the people promoting them are the guy that own them,

For the 100th time the people not promoting them are the people who have owned them and now how bad they are. Now if it was me and I was making this choice I would listen to the 20 or more people in here saying Impys are a cheap POS then the 2 biased people saying that they are good guns.



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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 2:38pm

Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

For big games etc. EVERY ounce counts for me so I don't spend time in air lines.  I bring enough air to these types of games to last all weekend and the paint to match my supply of air.

guess what one of the great quirks about my viking is

Originally posted by DRAGON DRAGON wrote:

So are you saying that not having an eye at all is better than a reflective eye or just trying to find a little nitch to poke at SP about? How is a breakbeam eye system more reliable?. Do the reflective eyes tend to break down more often or something? The only advantage of a breakbeam eye over reflective is that it has a greater threshold to black paint than a reflective eye. That has nothing to do with reliability but more to do with having a better response to black paint. I suppose if that is the case it can be simply resolved by not using black paint lol -

I would consider having my eye system working with all colors of paint more reliable than one that doesnt.

And I mean working in the sense that it does what it is suposed to do, and actually "sees" the paint.

Quote As far as buying and selling markers goes, in case you didn't notice, a lot of people buy markers and sell them because they get old, don't like them or in general want to move on to something else. So 'NEWS FLASH', you selling your Imp is not an isolated case as you so illusively portray it lol. Everybody wants a Freak kit, if you haven't sold it chances are you're asking too much for it. Put it up in the BST forums at PBN and see how long it lasts there lol -

First, I dont buy into the bore sizing thing, especialy when the bore size only lasts through half the barrel, so I really dont want a freak kit. My hammerhead barrel is all I need.

Second, and this is just me, you know, speaking for what I am reciving FalloutMan's statements as, but it seems to me that he sold his  SP equipment due to its lack of quality. You are simply ignoring parts of his posts in order to make it seem like he doesnt know how to back his beleifs/statements up.



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Posted By: red_alert102
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 2:39pm

B2k4 or B2k5 come with a 4 way adjustable trigger, lpr, good board, good eyes, look nice and arent so big, also icd is a great company with great quailty unlike smart parts.  So how is an impulse any better then a b2k4 or b2k5



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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 2:43pm
Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

Originally posted by DRAGON DRAGON wrote:

So are you saying that not having an eye at all is better than a reflective eye or just trying to find a little nitch to poke at SP about? How is a breakbeam eye system more reliable?. Do the reflective eyes tend to break down more often or something? The only advantage of a breakbeam eye over reflective is that it has a greater threshold to black paint than a reflective eye. That has nothing to do with reliability but more to do with having a better response to black paint. I suppose if that is the case it can be simply resolved by not using black paint lol -

I would consider having my eye system working with all colors of paint more reliable than one that doesnt.

And I mean working in the sense that it does what it is suposed to do, and actually "sees" the paint.

[QUOTE]

I agree 100%.

[QUOTE=Gatyr][Second, and this is just me, you know, speaking for what I am reciving FalloutMan's statements as, but it seems to me that he sold his  SP equipment due to its lack of quality. You are simply ignoring parts of his posts in order to make it seem like he doesnt know how to back his beleifs/statements up.

And again I agree.



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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 2:44pm
Originally posted by red_alert102 red_alert102 wrote:

B2k4 or B2k5 come with a 4 way adjustable trigger, lpr, good board, good eyes, look nice and arent so big, also icd is a great company with great quailty unlike smart parts.  So how is an impulse any better then a b2k4 or b2k5

Its not PERIOD! For just about the same price you get a much better gun with the ICD B2k.



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Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 3:04pm
I guess I'm the only one in the World that has an Impulse that rocks.......


Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 4:41pm
Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

Civilian. What's the latest info you have on bore sizing not being important? You're probably refering to accuracy only eh?


My own efficiency tests have shown that there is what I consider to be a significant difference in efficiency between a good fit and a poor fit.


For speedball tournies it may not be a big deal. If you only have a single bore barrel and you switch paint all of the time just adjust the pressure/dwell and hit the fill it yourself air lines between each game.


For big games etc. EVERY ounce counts for me so I don't spend time in air lines. I bring enough air to these types of games to last all weekend and the paint to match my supply of air.


4 cases of paint, 4 20 oz. c02 bottles and a 68/4500 kicker just incase my efficiency might be off.



Ya.. Xball air isnt an issue. Didnt consider big games


Posted By: DRAGON
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 5:56pm
Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

I guess I'm the only one in the World that has an Impulse that rocks.......


Not at all Lightning, some just refuse to realize the fact that Imps PWN lol. AMOF of all the forums that I attend, this one seems to be the most biased against them. Funny thing is though I'm not sure that it's having the saturated effect that the fabled few desire. I've been seeing alot of Tippman owners at the IOG site buying into these rippers. Since this thread was initiated there is a member here seeking my advice about which one he should buy. He's getting one from County now from Mike. OH ya.....even Mike owns an Imp, imagine that -


Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 10:06pm

Originally posted by DRAGON DRAGON wrote:

Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

I guess I'm the only one in the World that has an Impulse that rocks.......


Not at all Lightning, some just refuse to realize the fact that Imps PWN lol. AMOF of all the forums that I attend, this one seems to be the most biased against them. Funny thing is though I'm not sure that it's having the saturated effect that the fabled few desire. I've been seeing alot of Tippman owners at the IOG site buying into these rippers. Since this thread was initiated there is a member here seeking my advice about which one he should buy. He's getting one from County now from Mike. OH ya.....even Mike owns an Imp, imagine that -

Wow dude you need to seriously get your head out of your butt..Impys pwn yea right the only thing Impys pwn are BE guns everything else pwns Impys. Have you ever tried a real tourney electro gun like Timmys, Angels, Cyborgs, and Matrixs? If you have not then you need to and when you do you'll see Impys are no where near as good as those guns. If you have tried those guns then I would like to know how in gods name could you possibly think Impys are better. All those guns are faster, lighter, more gas effcient, smaller, have better eye systems and are just all around better quality guns. Even guns in the Impy class are better then the Impy. The B2k is better and the Pimp is better then the Impy. If anyone is biased in here its you because you can't admit to TRUE facts that the Impy can't compare to guns in its own class and guns in a higher class.  You refuse to accept the fact that every tourney gun out there is better then the Impy and the joke is it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. Just look at the facts thats been handed out over and over again. Impys are a POS get over it and try a real tourney gun for freakin gods sake.



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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 13 December 2004 at 6:57pm

Originally posted by DRAGON DRAGON wrote:

Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

I guess I'm the only one in the World that has an Impulse that rocks.......


Not at all Lightning, some just refuse to realize the fact that Imps PWN lol. AMOF of all the forums that I attend, this one seems to be the most biased against them. Funny thing is though I'm not sure that it's having the saturated effect that the fabled few desire. I've been seeing alot of Tippman owners at the IOG site buying into these rippers. Since this thread was initiated there is a member here seeking my advice about which one he should buy. He's getting one from County now from Mike. OH ya.....even Mike owns an Imp, imagine that -

whats your name on IOG?



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Posted By: DRAGON
Date Posted: 14 December 2004 at 2:24pm
Wouldn't you like to know Let's just say I've been there for quite a while and leave it at that lol -

I have a bunch of different markers and don't restrict myself to manufacturer tunnel vision. AMOF I was actually considering a Freestyle as an addition to my PB arsenal since I can get them for around $300 less than internet market price. Less than what you'd pay for a Bushy. It's the only ICD product that would be worthy of acquiring IMO but when I see these ICD thread terrorists here spamming and lieing in any SP thread that's posted, it just turns me away from ICD products all together. If this is an example of ICD owners I don't want to even be associated with those type of people at all. If you need to tenaciously lie and decieve members of these boards to satisfy your sick need, you all seem to be missing a few cards from your deck to me. All you're doing is puting a gap between paintball players when everybody should be standing together. If you think these things about Imps, I often wonder what your sincere views of Tippmann's are. I will pay a bit more and get a Shocker, Timmy or something nice that may be thrown into the arena in spring -


Posted By: Sir Stunna Lot
Date Posted: 16 December 2004 at 1:21am
to the original poster: if you have the money, get an aftermarket impulse with LPR, delrin bolt, adjustable trigger, lower feedneck, and some milling to take off the weight... dont even bother with the stock version... on the other hand, an option u want to consider would be buying an ICD bushy 04/05 PDS


to dragon: come on man... you and i have been on this topic for way too long...

your comparisson of the tippmann is pretty weak... we are talking about electopneumatic and you have to toss in the sear tipping blowback... come on now... very weak argument

come to think of it... you never answer my original question:

"why do you think the stock vision impulse is better than a stock bushy 04/05 pds?"

i would like to hear what you have to say on that topic

last note... its good to see more of the folks here are finally backing up the ICD products and have convincing arguments to bring forward
sure as hell make my job easier now... lol

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Posted By: DRAGON
Date Posted: 16 December 2004 at 5:34am
Originally posted by Sir Stunna Lot Sir Stunna Lot wrote:

...........come to think of it... you never answer my original question:

"why do you think the stock vision impulse is better than a stock bushy 04/05 pds?".......


You as well as the others once again missed the whole point here. This continual, "my dogs better than your dog" really isn't the point is it? Face the real truth here.........this is all a farce to downplay the things that SP did to ICD in the past and everybody's still for no aparent reason got their panties in a bunch about it. You guys are still losing a no show battle because SP still sells tons more markers than ICD ever did and will and continues the trend lol. The reality of all this just irks y'all so much that you can't stand it and your only outlet is to try to intimidate members here from buying SP products all together by terrorizing every single thread that's posted about Imps or any other SP marker with generalizations, clichets and comparisons for the red team. Face it.........no matter how hard you try to prove it, SP will PWN ICD every day of it's existance lol.........woo schwoo!!! Reality's tough sometimes and I think for some odd reason the bottom line must really make you fellas feel as small as ICD is compared to SP about using their products. Get over it and have an after dinner mint on me lol


Posted By: Sir Stunna Lot
Date Posted: 16 December 2004 at 6:03am
(you still havent answer my quetion, you can put all the claims you want to justify your thoughts, but you have yet to prove any true value advantages of the impulse)

My list of why the stock b2k4 pds is a better deal than a stock vision impulse (notice i didnt use "better"):

* low feed tube (smaller profile)
* delrin bolt (lighter, less damagin to the breach)
* lpr (better control over solenoid's pressure)
* trigger is more adjustable (better customization)
* Break Beam Ace (will see any type of paint)


ok... the above is my list to why a new customer should purchase the bushy over the impulse

now, i would like to see what the impulse can offer tangibly that is superior (keyword: tangible... i could care less about their fame, or customer service, or what not since it doesnt directly affect the marker physically)

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Posted By: DRAGON
Date Posted: 16 December 2004 at 2:31pm
* low feed tube (smaller profile)
Many feedneck choices for the Imp, take your choice. I prefer the stock feedneck as I like to have a nice stack of paint ready to feed the breech to cover people with. Tighter profile lol......we're talking 2" here -
* delrin bolt (lighter, less damagin to the breach)
Many choices of bolts as well -
* lpr (better control over solenoid's pressure)
Imps don't need LPR's maybe Bushy's do eh? I've used my Imp w/o an LPR for 2.5years now and my noid really doesn't need to be controled, it's doing just fine on its own -
* trigger is more adjustable (better customization)
Truthfully.....how many points of adjustment do you really need? Shall I insert the word 'hype'? An Imp with blade trigger has 4 adjustment points anyways -
* Break Beam Ace (will see any type of paint)
Here's a cookie for break beam anti-chop eye. Since all ICD proponents seem to think they deserve one share them with your buds lol -


Y'all just seem to keep overlooking that if you don't use black paint, this issue of yours doesn't really matter. Have another cookie please lol -

All aftermarket Imps come standard with most all of these things you list here. Just think about it, with all of these so-called Bushy 'perks', Imps still outsell Bushy's lol. How does it feel to be second in line? -









Oh ya......almost forgot to mention, the chips in those cookies are made from Ex-lax......enjoy.... hee hee -


Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 16 December 2004 at 2:35pm

You still have yet to tell him why a stock impulse is better than a stock b2k4 w/ PDS. You seem to always go off on a tangent or something.



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Posted By: DRAGON
Date Posted: 16 December 2004 at 2:56pm
You guys are so engrossed in this thing that you haven't even noticed that I never mention which is better because quite frankly, it doesn't matter to me what you think is better. You'll never hear me dis Bushys either like you do SP markers. You could care less what I think about Bushy's as well. If someone attacked Bushy's like you do SP markers here, you'd be all over it in a heartbeat. Well I the same. You can try and try and try and try and try and try to rationalize what seems to be better but in the end the numbers tell all and we gotz da numbas and you jus gotz the leftovers. Have another cookie OK and ex.....umma.....relax -


Posted By: F0STER*FARMLAND
Date Posted: 16 December 2004 at 3:18pm

ha ha ha! thanks guys/kids. this thread is great!

makes me wonder how anyone ever played paintball before "break beam eyes". i dont understand how anyone has the desire to fight about what marker someone else has.

my $0.02 on smart parts: the company sucks i do agree but it looks like many big mfg's are heading the same place. i have had no problems with my impulse(i own freak factory#99) it used to belong to lance from team cypress. just because something "better" comes out does not mean everything else just turns to craP.



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Posted By: paintballa87
Date Posted: 16 December 2004 at 4:46pm
my friend has an impulse nd wut i hear from my other friends is that its an insane gun nd the trigger very easy to squeze. i dont no the make yet but i heard most of them more accurate then an upgraded tippmann. dont take my word for cuz i neva shot 1 before im just tellin wut i herd from my friends


Posted By: DRAGON
Date Posted: 16 December 2004 at 9:29pm
Originally posted by F0STER*FARMLAND F0STER*FARMLAND wrote:

ha ha ha! thanks guys/kids. this thread is great!


makes me wonder how anyone ever played paintball before "break beam eyes". i dont understand how anyone has the desire to fight about what marker someone else has.



lol.......yes there are plenty of these great threads around this neck of the Tippmann forums. You've only been here for a short while. After you've been here a bit longer you will understand the persona of these little tidbits of fun and games we enjoy participating in so gregariously.


Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 16 December 2004 at 11:40pm

Originally posted by DRAGON DRAGON wrote:

You guys are so engrossed in this thing that you haven't even noticed that I never mention which is better because quite frankly, it doesn't matter to me what you think is better. You'll never hear me dis Bushys either like you do SP markers. You could care less what I think about Bushy's as well. If someone attacked Bushy's like you do SP markers here, you'd be all over it in a heartbeat. Well I the same. You can try and try and try and try and try and try to rationalize what seems to be better but in the end the numbers tell all and we gotz da numbas and you jus gotz the leftovers. Have another cookie OK and ex.....umma.....relax -

I could care less on how people talk about ICD, tippmann, or any copmany...minus AKA...

But, on that note, i'll quit arguing. You avoid the question everytime its asked, and while you are very smart, and avoid it rather well, you seem to stuck in your place to give away any ground in his argument, so, why bother.

But you do seem to personify the typical IOG forumer in the fact you are blinded by the product you own...or like...and cant see it sucks without imrpovements....for the most part anyway. There are always anomalies, but thats beside the point. Anyway, have fun.



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Posted By: Sir Stunna Lot
Date Posted: 17 December 2004 at 5:22am
dragon... ::shakes head::

like people have said... you have yet to say why the *stock* (keyword *stock*) impulse package is better (since you seem to back up the product, i want to hear what it has to offer over the bushy)

on the same note... for each of the benefits i listed for the bushy, all you have told me is that "this part is available as an upgrade"... well no **** shirlock (pardon the lack of words)...
my point was that the bushy comes stock with a lot of parts that impulse owners will eventually spend more money on to replace... hence the "bushy is a better deal"

in the end... even though i think SP has a negative impact on the paintball industry, i dont dislike their impulse for that reason... hell... i think the impulse has potential (just like any other marker)... BUT! its stock package leaves a lot to desire and falls short behind a stock bushy package

i give them mad props for their new nerve locking feedneck.. genious! design!




well.. i think Gatyr said it best:

Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:



... You avoid the question everytime its asked, and while you are very smart, and avoid it rather well, you seem to stuck in your place to give away any ground in his argument, so, why bother.


But you do seem to personify the typical IOG forumer in the fact you are blinded by the product you own...



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Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 17 December 2004 at 5:30am

There's alot less flaming at IOG than here and I don't consider them biased at all.  The guys from IOG that I play with shoot Angels, Tippmanns, Cockers, DM4's, Tims, uh Impulses.....

 



Posted By: DRAGON
Date Posted: 17 December 2004 at 6:59am
What I wanna know is, did y'all like the great cookies I baked ya? Feel a little loose perhaps?

You can stock this, swiss cheese that, double duty cross beam the other but it doesn't cancel the fact that Imps are a much more popular marker than any Bushy ever was. Almost seems like ICD is going out of it's way to be comparable or better(kinda like you guys are trying to convince me) with no results. I must admit they have made a nice addition to their line with the Freestyle. I suppose it's their answer to the Shocker though not the light predominantly used in tourney marker that the Shocker is by no means. And Gatyr.......why hang at IOG if you hate Imps so much? Kinda like rubbin elbows with the enemy isn't it? -

Hey! 1000 posts, watayano?


Posted By: Opossum
Date Posted: 17 December 2004 at 4:28pm
Ok i dont want to get into this because i think impulses are alright, not the best, but there a nice gun... But wasnt smartparts just told they couldnt make them anymore along with the shocker, and nerve....?

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Posted By: F0STER*FARMLAND
Date Posted: 17 December 2004 at 4:59pm

Originally posted by Opossum Opossum wrote:

But wasnt smartparts just told they couldnt make them anymore along with the shocker, and nerve....?

sounds like it. but im sure there is a way for them to "buy in".

FULL CIRCLE , go figure



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Posted By: The Man
Date Posted: 17 December 2004 at 5:06pm
^^^ from all the crap I read over at PBN all they have to do it change there boards and there back in business which sucks Sp should burn in Hell patents and lwa suit should stay out of PB.

 DRAGON the IMPY is more popular so that makes it better? No. The Free Style is better than the Shocker Comes with the HE bolt kit (Unlike the shocker) so it has better efficiency. Many Pro teams are switching from shockers and timmys to the Free style. It's not as light though but not by much. The Bushy comes with better parts stock and is lighter and just as fast.

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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 12:11pm
Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

There's alot less flaming at IOG than here and I don't consider them biased at all.  The guys from IOG that I play with shoot Angels, Tippmanns, Cockers, DM4's, Tims.....

And those are the people that make IOG alright, along with people like you LB. Trigger is cool too, despite his view on SP markers.

But people like Dragon are why I never go into impulse talk.

Originally posted by DRAGON DRAGON wrote:

And Gatyr.......why hang at IOG if you hate Imps so much? Kinda like rubbin elbows with the enemy isn't it? - 

Because there are cool people there mike and drew and people.

But I dont go there as much as I used to. It seem like IOG is getting kinda slow.



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Posted By: 98c - baller
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 11:00pm
i wouldent get an IMP ever, only if it was given to me for $5, or it was a Rat, otherwise i hate them

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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 9:53am

ugh this is getting retarted. Dragon can only throw out useless poop and try to avoid the questions that would prove is precious Impy is a POS. You guys really need to get out of your hole for god sakes. Face it Smart Farts guns are trash they all are starting with the Shocker and ending with the Nerve. You still have not shown how the Impy is sooo much better then the guns in its own class and other guns in higher classes. Why do you keep avoiding the question because you know you can't answer it without throwing BS out there. You know that no matter what point you make someone will be able to throw facts out there to prove the Impy is trash so you choose to avoid the question in hopes that you won't be proven wrong. Lets go through this again ok.

 I have owned and tried just about all the tourney guns and out of all those guns I have owned and tried none were as trashy as the Smart Parts guns. Lets start with my Impy. The Impy was a piece of trash right out of the box. After using it the first couple times I lost both my ball detents which just blew out of the barrel. After that I stripped the swiss cheese pepsi can aluminum. Then I had to add 1,000 worth of upgrades to make the gun come even close to working. After all that tourture the thing was still a piece of trash and the ghetto rigged solnoid compleatly pooped out on me. The Impy needs $1000+ worth of upgrades. All decent guns including ones on its own class (the B2K) comes with an LPR the Impy doesn't. The solnoid is "ghetto rigged" ( As is all Smart Parts Solnoids) and is just horrible. The Ghetto rigged solnoid plus the high input pressure of the gun and lack of an LPR will lead to a compleate solnoid blow out. The Smart Farts Vision eyes are horrbile and only work 10% of the time. If the trashy reflective eyes aren't breaking down thier not detecting paint. The Impy and all SP guns are very uneffcient in gas. Unlike other guns, like the B2k the Impy has no adjusble trigger leaving a trigger either to stiff or to long. Also unlike other REAL electro tourney guns the Impy comes with all aluminum guts which lead to severe wearing of the inside of the gun. Shockers and the Nerve are just as trashy and just as unreliable. If you scratched away the paint of a Smart Farts gun you would see "Pepsi" or "Coke."



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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 10:43am
Hmm, if i remember corectly scarface, was it not you who was defending your impy under the name impyking22 or something similar? Chill out, you are so hypocritical.

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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 11:08am
Yes but unlike some people after trying other tourney guns I realized just how bad the Impy is so I got a real tourney gun. No I will not "chill out" Im stating facts to prove Dragon wrong, why don't you go somewhere and mind your own busniess.

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Posted By: DRAGON
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 6:43pm
Bwwwhahahahahaha!!!! You have proved exactly '0'. All you seem to do is simulate a broken record with the same spam lines that you've use previously. I need not state my case as repetitiously as you seem to relish in. I know how this thread will end, exactly in the same manner as the 500 previously have since I've been a member here. Get over it and have another one of those cookies that kept you away for so long. And I call shens on your statement about owning all of the tourney markers available too. This is the net and I beleive half of what I see and none of what I hear of certain members -

BTW nice sig......that chick in the blue see through top in your sig, her nipples are showing right through that wet shirt. Wasn't aware that we were able to illustrate such eye candy in our sigs here -


Posted By: The Man
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 6:48pm
and you just proved what?

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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 7:35pm

He just proved that he once again has no proof to back up anything he says and that he can't face the facts that his gun is a POS. Buddy your ignorance is so increably high I don't think anyone could be more ignorant then you. You repeat the same BS over and over and over again avoiding the question and hoping that your BS wil win you case. THe fact is that I backed up everything I said with facts you just trow trash out there and prove nothing at all. So lets try this again (although we all know what your going to do. Your just going to avoid the question yet again and throw more useless BS in the hope that you make a point). Why is stock Impy so great? Why is it better then guns in its class and higher classes?

Also I never said I owned all the high-end guns out there I think that would be impossible but I have tried every one out there. Go back to first grade and learn to read.

 



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Posted By: Johndcjr1989
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 12:04am
i used to be anti-SP (except for their barrels) but now i have used several nice impys and shockers (not owned used)  and have seen they are really nice guns.  ppl complain about them breaking all the time but it isnt really so.  if u take care of them correctly then its not a big deal at all.  2 of my friends have strange vision impys, a dude at the local field has a Warped sportz dark impy and the field owner has a Rat. jr impy.  3 of my friends own shockers also.  (i know i have alot of SP fans as my friends but alot of these ppl are actually closer to acquaintances than friends).  yes they are very tall and i personally dont care for that and i wouldnt ever buy a lower end impy but the higher end vision imps are nice.  but yes just personal preference i would go with a B2K5 with PDS over an Impy unless it was one of the like 1000$ imps. 

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Posted By: DRAGON
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 3:52am
"I have owned and tried just about all the tourney guns" Read em and weep Mr Victrola lol. You're trying so intensely to elude that you are some sort of expert baller. You feel the need to impress others with statements like this to hide your inner insecurities. This is the perfect example of your repetitious denial of reality. I feel the contempt and animosity in each of your posts and you have no idea at all that I'm just toying with you and having a great time knowing that it bugs the tarnation out of you lol. You're so shallow you will continue to post with the same ol same ol even after I've spelled it out to you. You're a shallow foo, admit it foo ahahahahahahaha!!!!!.....and for the kicker, I don't even own an Imp

**Scarbrain scratches his miniature cranium and trys to conjure how he's gonna convince DRAGON that he does own an Imp now**   


Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:31am
ugh...once again you avoid the question...GG your are now a complete ignorant fool. . I am not a pro paintballer but like it or not I have tried just about every gun out there. Your idiotic commetnts just show agaon how ignorant and retarted you really are. I atleast have the sense to know Smart Farts guns are trash.

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Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me


Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 11:06am
Both your comments suck.


Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 11:44am
Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:

Both your comments suck.

I would have to agree.



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Posted By: DRAGON
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 11:54am
Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:


Both your comments suck.


I would have to agree.



I concur **yawn** -


Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 6:53pm
Civilian and I take on all of you nubs.  Tomarrow.


Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 8:05pm
Ok.................If I could I would.

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Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me


Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 9:25pm
If you could you would? Wouldnt wanna make you quit this sport.


Posted By: 98c Dude13
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 11:49pm
 They are decent guns.

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TIPPMANN 98 CUSTOM
14" Progressive barrel   
32* Black gel grips
BT-16 Double trigger
Pen Spring Mod
X-core Expansion Chamber
Vertical Adapter



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