Gun slip kills soldier
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Topic: Gun slip kills soldier
Posted By: SebastianBlack
Subject: Gun slip kills soldier
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 5:28pm
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A SOLDIER died after accidentally shooting himself in the GROIN while cleaning his rifle, a coroner heard yesterday.
Andrew Kelly, 18, died three days after getting his dream posting with the Parachute Regiment in Basra, Southern Iraq. He was cleaning his loaded SA80 rifle with the safety catch left off. Andrew, of Lydford, Devon, suffered a brain haemorrhage, which Oxfordshire coroner Nicholas Gardiner said may have resulted from the gunshot — or possibly caused his finger to slip in the first place. Andrew’s mother Helen Yallop said: “He died having achieved his dream.” ------------- FFKFASOFAA Erst wenn die Wolken schlafengehn kann man uns am Himmel sehn wir haben Angst und sind allein Gott weiss ich will kein Engel sein |
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Posted By: boomstick
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 5:29pm
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That's terrible.
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Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 5:44pm
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Ow! (pun intended) ------------- 
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Posted By: Dan db09
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 5:47pm
| why would you clean a loaded gun with the safety off? |
Posted By: xteam02001
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 5:48pm
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why would you clean a gun that is loaded? ------------- 
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Posted By: Variable
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 5:48pm
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Why would you clean a loaded gun period? What happened, happened because he was careless, no excuses about it.
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Posted By: MuRdoc18
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 5:50pm
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Must have been in the navy...
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Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 5:51pm
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yea i dont know why you would clean your gun with the saftey off and it loaded but it still suxs though ------------- 
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Posted By: shiftykyle101
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 5:55pm
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ouch
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Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 5:57pm
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He's got an innie. ------------- |
Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 5:58pm
But what I want to know is: Why was he cleaning a loaded gun?! Y'know?! -------------
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Dan db09 wrote:Posted By: ThEeViLcHiCkEn
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 6:07pm
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life sucks then you die...
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Posted By: Variable
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 6:09pm
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If you'll notice, me and xteam posted at the same time and pbdude is
just slow. My question was rhetorical, not sure about the rest.
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Posted By: untouchable555
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 6:19pm
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That is very painfull to think of, but why would you clean a loaded gun with the safty off pointing twords your nads, ur askin for it really. But it is still horrible ------------- Tippmann 98c 20 ounce Co2 tank |
Posted By: Picasso
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 6:36pm
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No No NO...its not about the gun cleaning, loaded or not, you guys missed the whole point of the story.... Let me show you the way. [Andrew’s mother Helen Yallop said: “He died having achieved his dream.” ] She is a complete idiot! Unless his dream was to shoot his "package" off , then die 3 days later. What could be worse, i mean, if you shoot off "Mr. Willy" and the boys , wouldn't you just want to die right there? NOooooo! his dream was to live for 3 solid days, knowing he had Murdered Mr Willy & Co. ?? geeesh...this is pretty messed up...
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 6:38pm
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I wonder what his tombstone will say on his grave...."Great Balls of Fire". ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition! 
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Posted By: ItsJustMe
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 6:57pm
I love you man. ------------- <Replaced gigantormous sig with strike, good trade.> |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 7:02pm
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LOL Picasso!!!
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Posted By: SebastianBlack
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 7:28pm
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Well im back online regularly now so tune in for my stupid news from around the world posts again.
Miss me? ------------- FFKFASOFAA Erst wenn die Wolken schlafengehn kann man uns am Himmel sehn wir haben Angst und sind allein Gott weiss ich will kein Engel sein |
Posted By: WUNgUN
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 7:47pm
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Scary part is that "stupid" loaded weapons accidents in the military happen all the time, but now that there's a War going on its "news worthy". Was it Canada or UK? ------------- [IMG]http://hometown.aol.com/hlwrangler/myhomepage/revised5_copy.jpg"> ""...the Marines we have there now could crush the city and be done with business in four days."--LtGen Conway on Fallujah |
Posted By: SebastianBlack
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 7:55pm
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UK
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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 7:58pm
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If you head fits inside a pickle jar, you shouldn't be allowed to shoot at anything...period.
What an idiot. I've been cleaning firearms since I was 8 and I've never A)cleaned one while leaving it loaded or B)shot myself. Idiots suck. |
Posted By: TippmannA5User
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 8:11pm
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How do you point a gun that is being cleaned at your groin, unless he was holding the butt between his feet....makes no sence. I am not dumb enough to clean a gun with its safty off, let alone LOADED! What an idiot. ------------- Just shoot yourself and save me the trouble. click the pic! http://mypaintballpics.mypicgallery.com/mpg/Route.asp"> 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 8:49pm
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moron... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors"> 
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Posted By: 636andy636
Date Posted: 09 December 2004 at 9:10pm
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LOL!!!!!!
second place darwin award next to the guy huffing a 20 pound propane tank then lit a cigarette in his garage wile it was filled with the gas |
Posted By: Barretm82
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 12:29am
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Just food for thought.
There have been terrible problems with the safeties on the SA80s particularly in desert powder. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 12:40am
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so? he had bullets in the gun a very dumb move, do you take apart your marker with it gased and with balls in the chamber and hopper? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Barretm82
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 1:09am
Obviously not. Have you ever wiped paint off you hopper or air tank coming off the field? Is that considered cleaning your marker? |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 1:11am
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i said take apart your marker, and hes an idiot, he had the barrel pointed toward him with a bullet in the pipe ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Barretm82
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 1:17am
Well your reading things into the story and making assumptions. The story didn't say anything about taking the SA80 apart, it said cleaning. In a powery desert that could mean a lot of things. Now, guns should always be pointed in a safe direction and so forth. What I am saying is there simply is not enough info, I doubt we are getting the full story on this one. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 1:19am
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yep, im assuming because there are a lot of dirt partles and sand that would get lodged in it, that he was stripping it down ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Barretm82
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 1:22am
Yea, agreed simply not enough info in the story... |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 1:25am
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either way, not smart to point the gun at anything you arent going to shoot ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Barretm82
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 1:29am
I wonder if he dropped it? Now I realize there is always one idiot, but this story seems embellished to me. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 1:36am
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we can only imagine, it seems sketchy, he just go transferred, and right off the bat he off himself by accident.. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 1:36am
| Someone obviously doesn't know common cleaning procedures. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 1:39am
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Posted By: Barretm82
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 1:40am
Is that addressed to me? 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 1:41am
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hes trying to be a smart alec ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Barretm82
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 1:51am
lol, yeah I figured... Anyhoo, the whole thing just seems out of place. Then check this part out. Andrew, of Lydford, Devon, suffered a brain haemorrhage, which Oxfordshire coroner Nicholas Gardiner said may have resulted from the gunshot — or possibly caused his finger to slip in the first place. So was it carelessness? or a brain hemorrhage? I mean the story says this may have caused his finger to slip? So he was cleaning a loaded gun with his finger on the trigger, while pointing it at his nuts?? 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 1:53am
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yeah, it really sounds, more like a "see thats why you dont reach into the toaster to get the poptart" story ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 1:54am
| Still seems as if saftey procedures were not covered well during instructions. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 1:58am
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i bet the drill instructors feel great about themselves ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Barretm82
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 2:15am
Yeah those Brit instructors always shooting thier nuts off. 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 10 December 2004 at 2:20am
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in sweeden or poland, one of the two, chainsaws have a warning on them this warning says "do not stop blade with genitals" some people just need to be told these things ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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