a-5 vs. autococker
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Topic: a-5 vs. autococker
Posted By: evil pimp
Subject: a-5 vs. autococker
Date Posted: 11 December 2004 at 10:44am
WICH gun would be better a tippman a-5 with responce or a autococker
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Posted By: bcmjra1
Date Posted: 11 December 2004 at 10:49am
a-5 with the response dude u dont even need a response all yu nedd is a double trig abd a flatline and its got twice the range and accuracy than a autococker. i have an a-5 and u buy it as anintermidiate gun but then u can upgrade it to be the best gun out there!
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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 11 December 2004 at 1:39pm
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Autococker. You can get good ones cheap on ebay, and from the 10-12 of December, action village is selling 'cocker parts (for that matter, tons of stuff) REALLY cheap. I looked at it, and you can get tons of good upgrades crazy cheap (literally, these are bargain basement prices). Go check it out. That, and Ebay.
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Posted By: red_alert102
Date Posted: 11 December 2004 at 9:27pm
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bcmjra1 wrote:
a-5 with the response dude u dont even need a response all yu nedd is a double trig abd a flatline and its got twice the range and accuracy than a autococker. i have an a-5 and u buy it as anintermidiate gun but then u can upgrade it to be the best gun out there! |
You are a noob. First off flatelines wont double your distance and half the times they dont even pop when you get the increased distance. Accuray is determinded by paint to barrel match but since the autococker doesnt kick like a shotgun from shot to shot you will have better accuracy becuase your hands wont be flying around. A-5s can not be upgraded to be the best gun out there a b2k5 would always be better than an a-5. An autococker is a great gun but I would suggest getting an autococker with an electro frame such as the race or e-blade becuase that way you can shoot much faster then mech guns
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Posted By: chrisb1103
Date Posted: 11 December 2004 at 9:34pm
dont get the flatline what ever u do i shot one before and the suck maybe 1 out of every 5 shots ar accurate i would go with the A5 because i wouldnt waste your money on a autococker go with the a5 and response trig
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Posted By: paintballer2584
Date Posted: 11 December 2004 at 9:58pm
bcmjra1 wrote:
a-5 with the response dude u dont even need a response all yu nedd is a double trig abd a flatline and its got twice the range and accuracy than a autococker. i have an a-5 and u buy it as anintermidiate gun but then u can upgrade it to be the best gun out there! | shut up you noob all you noops that have an a-5 or a 98 think it the best gun in the world go autocker
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Posted By: f@ll3n 5nip3r
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 11:59am
red_alert102 wrote:
bcmjra1 wrote:
a-5 with the response dude u dont even need a response all yu nedd is a double trig abd a flatline and its got twice the range and accuracy than a autococker. i have an a-5 and u buy it as anintermidiate gun but then u can upgrade it to be the best gun out there! |
You are a noob. First off flatelines wont double your distance and half the times they dont even pop when you get the increased distance. Accuray is determinded by paint to barrel match but since the autococker doesnt kick like a shotgun from shot to shot you will have better accuracy becuase your hands wont be flying around. A-5s can not be upgraded to be the best gun out there a b2k5 would always be better than an a-5. An autococker is a great gun but I would suggest getting an autococker with an electro frame such as the race or e-blade becuase that way you can shoot much faster then mech guns
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 1:39pm
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There is so much misinformation and silliness in this thread that I'm not even going to waste my time.
Good lord.
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 2:38pm
Im with the "noob" I would much rather have the A-5 then the cocker. The A-5 is faster, more relaible, alot more durable, and easier to clean and maintain with its no tool maintence design.
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Posted By: P8ntblldude
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 3:15pm
I would go with a cocker, my cocker can out run any tippmann, and is a lot more accurate.
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Posted By: capone399
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 4:11pm
the reason the flatline dosent work on ur guyses guns is prob cuz u have it cronoed at like 300+. i have a flatlined a5 and it is the best gun ever. i guess im a nub too!
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Posted By: red_alert102
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 9:07pm
my angel would own your tippy in .2 seconds
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Posted By: ~p1y2r3o4~
Date Posted: 12 December 2004 at 9:27pm
id take a cocker over a tippy anyday
but since i have my sp shocker, it would top any tippy upgraded and a cocker anyday
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Posted By: A5player
Date Posted: 18 December 2004 at 12:10am
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my tippy A-5 is upgraded with e-grip, drop forward, 12in dye ultralite, and double trigger, running nitro. a cocker? ha...why is it that everyone with a cocker thinks there something special. when someone says they have an A-5, the person with the cocker, no matter what kind it is, thinks they have the better gun..numerous times at my hometown airball and xball field have i completly owned the competition with my A-5, cockers obviously arent the better gun. the tippmann upgraded will shoot just as fast, and with a good barrel just as accurate, just because you have a cocker doesnt mean you have to be so **edited***** cocky. oh wait i have an A-5, does that mean i'm a noob as well. cockers arent bad guns, i'll give you that, but there not to the point that cocker owners can just dismiss A-5's as no competition....besides, any gun can beat anyone, its the players skill that counts you cocky bast****
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 18 December 2004 at 1:02am
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A5player wrote:
my tippy A-5 is upgraded with e-grip, drop forward, 12in dye ultralite, and double trigger, running nitro. a cocker? ha...why is it that everyone with a cocker thinks there something special. when someone says they have an A-5, the person with the cocker, no matter what kind it is, thinks they have the better gun..numerous times at my hometown airball and xball field have i completly owned the competition with my A-5, cockers obviously arent the better gun. the tippmann upgraded will shoot just as fast, and with a good barrel just as accurate, just because you have a cocker doesnt mean you have to be so **edited***** cocky. oh wait i have an A-5, does that mean i'm a noob as well. cockers arent bad guns, i'll give you that, but there not to the point that cocker owners can just dismiss A-5's as no competition....besides, any gun can beat anyone, its the players skill that counts you cocky bast**** |
Sing it brother.
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Posted By: A-5 bunkerking
Date Posted: 18 December 2004 at 9:43am
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A5player wrote:
my tippy A-5 is upgraded with e-grip, drop forward, 12in dye ultralite, and double trigger, running nitro. a cocker? ha...why is it that everyone with a cocker thinks there something special. when someone says they have an A-5, the person with the cocker, no matter what kind it is, thinks they have the better gun..numerous times at my hometown airball and xball field have i completly owned the competition with my A-5, cockers obviously arent the better gun. the tippmann upgraded will shoot just as fast, and with a good barrel just as accurate, just because you have a cocker doesnt mean you have to be so **edited***** cocky. oh wait i have an A-5, does that mean i'm a noob as well. cockers arent bad guns, i'll give you that, but there not to the point that cocker owners can just dismiss A-5's as no competition....besides, any gun can beat anyone, its the players skill that counts you cocky bast**** |
nice try buddy. I used to own an a-5 that was 10x your gun. just to inform you... a-5 egrip custom made blade trigger with post/pre stops, magnetic return, wobble stop. palmers stab dop drop jj ceramic two piece barrel polished internals madman springs rva polished sear.
now that is one kick ass a-5.... cockers are still better. they are smaller, they dont weigh 10 pounds, they are much more accurate irrelevent of the barrel, their is almost no kick, and have a much higher ROF.
when i owned an a-5 i too tried to claim it was better then cockers... but i was wrong back then. cockers own a-5s
o yea, and have fun replacing your cyclones internals multiple times.
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Posted By: A5player
Date Posted: 18 December 2004 at 12:09pm
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excuse me but do you read anything i said, at the end of what i said i stated its the player that beats the gun... your A-5 must of been a great gun...i guarantee if you had any skill with it, you'd be taking down cockers like crazy. my argument isnt with electric cockers, those are i'll admit it better than A-5's, but a non electric cocker, the A-5 will match and can beat... i'm sorry you didnt have the ability to push the A-5 to its best...but when you do, it's a hell of a gun to beat. my A-5 has become an Airball, speedball, and xball gun...not a woods gun as you'd probably suspect. not to brag...but yes i have taken people with cockers out numerous times..and yes i'll do it again and they'll be shocked when i do, especially when they find out it was just a heavy, bulky, slow, tippy A-5 that did it.
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Posted By: paintball_playa
Date Posted: 18 December 2004 at 3:57pm
Cockers all the way... there is no comparison... the cocker is goin to outshoot any A5 out there, yes it is all about the player but no player out there could cap a A-5 out at 20 bps, on a Cocker you could. think about it, if you had the perfect barrel bore to paint size on each gun, you're going to get much better accuraccy on the Autococker, i mean c'mon, think about it people, they're seen in tournaments by pros and if people thought A-5s were just as good, dont you think you'd be seeing those in tourneys too?
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Posted By: A5player
Date Posted: 18 December 2004 at 4:29pm
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rush paintball...we have tourneys every 3 weeks.... and yeah there are people using A-5s on the same team as people using cockers and even angels. they do just as good
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Posted By: -PREDATOR-
Date Posted: 18 December 2004 at 4:34pm
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silly little n00bs with their a5's....."adurr my a5 would own an autococker! adurrr!" gimme a break!
autococker. enough said.
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Posted By: A5player
Date Posted: 18 December 2004 at 5:08pm
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you have an autococker big deal get over yourselves since i have an A-5 i'm a noob? wow you all should get a clue
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Posted By: F0STER*FARMLAND
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 12:42am
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paintball_playa wrote:
yes it is all about the player but no player out there could cap a A-5 out at 20 bps, on a Cocker you could...think about it people, they're seen in tournaments by pros and if people thought A-5s were just as good, dont you think you'd be seeing those in tourneys too? |
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Posted By: n00bPber16
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 1:19am
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One question- If you have an autococker and are a not fan of tippys then why the hell are you in this forum? Seriously though, just cuz you got a autococker doesnt mean your a god. This fat kid at my school was boasting on and on but how his cocker owns. But then one day i got him to go the field im usually at,(woodsball, a little bit of speedball) my asa was screwed up so i rented a m98. And I'm proud to say I owned him like 5 times outta 7 games, including speedball. I'm not saying all cockers blow I'm just supporting the one dudes views bout how its the players skills mainly, not the gun.
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Posted By: tep0583
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 8:39am
A5player wrote:
.besides, any gun can beat anyone, its the players skill that counts you cocky bast**** |
This the best point that was made in this thread. I've seen far too
many people out there who think that a trick gun makes up for lousey
play and lack of tactics. I've shot countless numbers of such players
out, over the years.
The Autococker is a very good gun, as is the A-5. Neither one will be
very effective, however, if the guy behind the triger doesn't know how
to use them.
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 9:38am
An R/T'd tippy will outshoot a mechanical cocker. While an autococker has more possibilities with upgrading.
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Posted By: -PREDATOR-
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 11:29am
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^^well put, my roomate has an a5 with e grip and i have a stock 04 and he can out shoot me.
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Posted By: A-5 StRaFeR
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 5:13pm
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Definately A-5 response. With some nice upgrades it will be so much better than an autococker anyday.
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Posted By: -PREDATOR-
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 5:49pm
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yea i agree, an a5 with egrip in full auto will rip
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Posted By: tippmannA-5guy
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 8:27pm
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Guys the autococker and the flatline are two great inventions for the speedball, and woodsball player but what happend when they made a flatline cocker??? it was heaven. My friend has one of those and I love when he brings it to play. They should remake this gun
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Posted By: red_alert204
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 9:30pm
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A-5 StRaFeR wrote:
Definately A-5 response. With some nice upgrades it will be so much better than an autococker anyday. |
No an e-bladed or raced cocker is better then an a-5 with response. Tippmannn a-5s are capped it 15bps while its easy to rip out more on a e-cocker, not to mention you have the cyclone on the a-5 is the most unreiliabe thing in the world. My a-5 chopped probably 2-3 out every 10 shots meanwhile my angel has less then 10 chops and i have had it since august
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Posted By: -PREDATOR-
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 9:41pm
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you obviously didnt take care of ur cyclone or u got a defective one, or your using crap walmart paint
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Posted By: red_alert204
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 4:41pm
Diabllo nightmare and blaze is what i use mostly and i took care of my cyclone made sure it was always clean..... even took it the store to see if they new they had no idea
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Posted By: Team Caution
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 5:53pm
cocker 4 sure!!! cockers kik ass
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Posted By: snoopy56
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 9:17pm
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I would say autococker, I love my A-5 to death, but it's just too heavy
and bulky. For half of this season I have been using my 68
Special and my friends Free Flow Autococker because they smaller and a
lot lighter. I currently am building a custom autococker, 02 Dye
Reflex body, can't wait to finish it and play with it next season.
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Posted By: capone399
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 10:13pm
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what i dont understand is why the auto cocker guys are on the tippmann site...jealousy?
also depends on what u play speedball or woodsball
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Posted By: P8ntblldude
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 10:20pm
speedball is more fast paced and you need or its better to have a smaller/lighter gun that can shoot at a decent ROF, Woodsball well everyone knows what that is.
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Posted By: red_alert204
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 8:38pm
capone399 wrote:
what i dont understand is why the auto cocker guys are on the tippmann site...jealousy?
also depends on what u play speedball or woodsball |
because i like the what gun is best forum and helping people with gun choice
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:08pm
capone399 wrote:
what i dont understand is why the auto cocker guys are on the tippmann site...jealousy?
also depends on what u play speedball or woodsball
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Or maybe we (gasp!) own both a Tippmann AND a cocker?
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Posted By: 98c Dude13
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 11:46pm
Get the A-5 with Response. Then like a teardrop or an All American.
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Posted By: ss88
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 1:34pm
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The only reason that a person with a cocker can beat a person with a tippy is really the accuracy and skill. Big deal if you can shoot 20 balls a second with your cocker, all that proves is you got money and you can pin someone down for a while. One well placed shot from a tippy, or any gun at that, can take on a person with any marker goin full blaze on you. Whats a good gun if theres no skill behind it? Some guns are better than other FOR DIFFERENT GAMES AND PURPOSES but yet again the reason your getting people out with better guns is either skill or a lucky shot.
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