spyder vs BKO 2004
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Topic: spyder vs BKO 2004
Posted By: Marksman_98
Subject: spyder vs BKO 2004
Date Posted: 18 December 2004 at 10:04am
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My friend wants a spyder fenix w/ acs and i want a 2004 bko i figure the bko is better what do u guys think and and y? ------------- Marksman_98 |
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Posted By: A5player
Date Posted: 18 December 2004 at 12:22pm
| all i know is that the fenix with acs has the ability to shoot 20bps, and the 04 bko shoots around 18. both guns can be better than the other..it's really somewhat even..you'll have to rely on the skill of the player to determine this...personally i dont know what i'd take of the 2 |
Posted By: paintball_playa
Date Posted: 18 December 2004 at 3:31pm
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knowing how this is the tippmann forums and practically everyone here hates spyder, this thred has the ability to start a flame war... woohoo... ------------- 2004 ICD BKO Dye Sticky 3s CP Regulator Vapor Valve Custom Cut Bolt Removed Trigger Spring CP Gauge 2k4 Chaos Board |
Posted By: evil-NYX
Date Posted: 18 December 2004 at 4:55pm
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the bko is better, i shot the fenix on a fews different occasions and each time during rapid fire, the gun kept uncocking, thus, pissing me off. I shot the bko MANY times, and i wasnt dissapointed ------------- • http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=797191 - PBN Feedback |
A5player wrote:Posted By: A5player
Date Posted: 18 December 2004 at 5:12pm
theres many things that could of been the reason for the fenix shooting the way it did for you....i've shot the fenix many times, i've even played with it...i never had a problem with it uncocking,even on full auto |
Posted By: -PREDATOR-
Date Posted: 18 December 2004 at 8:28pm
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get a cocker ------------- WHOEVER *reb* IS WHY WOULD YOU THINK I HAVE AN OVERSIZED SIG!?!?!! YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!!THIS FORUM HAS THE WORST MODS EVER!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: ReGuLaToR99
Date Posted: 18 December 2004 at 11:11pm
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BKO, it can have a PDS put on it and with a new board it will RIP. ------------- 
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Posted By: Raptor
Date Posted: 18 December 2004 at 11:16pm
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You can put an uncapped board with eyes on a spyder also. Never shot a BKO, can't help there.. ------------- In the world of the blind, the one eyed rules... |
Posted By: A5player
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 12:08am
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. [/QUOTE] You can put an uncapped board with eyes on a spyder also. Never shot a BKO, can't help there.. [/QUOTE] the t-board with eye for the spyder will cap at 36bps...i'm not sure if you need the eye if the gun has the acs though |
Posted By: f@ll3n 5nip3r
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 3:10pm
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bko is smaller lighter more reliable i dont have anything against spyder i just like the bko better but yeah i would get a cocker though ------------- anti: flatline egg 2 fender guitars cyclone xbox live gamertag:fall3n 5nip3r steam tag:fallen sniper ADD ME!!! "SO I bought an Angel, How the hell do I shoot it.." -jmac3 |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 5:03pm
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BKO, more reliable, built tougher, and a better over all marker.
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Posted By: Rick_James
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 6:21pm
You show me a Spyder that can shoot 20 bps and you can have my gun. |
Posted By: Btpp_333
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 7:09pm
ok... http://www.carbineshornet.com/images/hornet_volume2.wmv - here ya go james even tho it says 19bps, his "newer" version hit 22bps so 
what gun do i get? ------------- i really, just dont care anymore |
Posted By: A5player
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 7:22pm
| go to http://www.xsfadvantage.com - www.xsfadvantage.com click on spyder, and wath the spyder firing.....wow...that shut you up quick huh |
Posted By: Fast Splat
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 9:35pm
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Get the BKO. A lot more reliable than the Spyder. ------------- **MY SETUP!** WGP 04 ProStock Autococker Worrblade Delrin Bolt **SOON TO COME** Nexus Ram & QEV's CP Shorty Reg CP On/Off & Rail System And some other cool stuff!! |
Posted By: 98c - baller
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 10:56pm
thats nothing, my e-99 avant ($130) now is capped at 36bps, that board cant go over 25bps (although it says uncapped) also my spyder works like a timmy, with a ram, noid, all the fixings, Well i chose a spyder over a BKO ------------- |
Posted By: pballa818
Date Posted: 19 December 2004 at 11:26pm
| well let me tell you this, both of those are low end guns so why pay that much when u can get the Imagine 2004 for like 110..!?!?!? plus the only advantage the fenix has over the imagine is the milling and anti chop bolt...so get the imagine 2004 and an anti chop bolt....:D |
Posted By: A5player
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 12:01pm
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low end...the spyder fenix, raven nexion, and raven primal, are a different generation of kingman. They are the elevated versions. the imagine 04 isnt a bad gun, but it can not be compared to the fenix. The fenix acs runs on a different board, it can reach 20 bps. you can put the acs on the imagine and it will still only shoot 14 max because of the chip it uses. with either the xsf chip or the t-board the gun will be capped out at 36 bps. |
Posted By: Johndcjr1989
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 10:17pm
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yeah i like my BKO and the fenix is also good too btu look at the pricing on them Fenix=230 BKO=330. how can u expect the spyder to be as good? the BKOs are also like somebody said b4 more reliable and a bit tougher and such than a spyder. also if u bring a spyder to a big tournament most guys will laugh u off the field b/c they think anyone with a spyder is a newb and cant possibly be good but they dont even take into consideration the fact that maybe the spyder has been upgraded and its good enough for u as it is and u dont need a 1000 dollar gun to play good. they just laugh at u and eventually all of the picking will get to u. even tho i was a much better player than my teammates and my a5 cost a good 100 more than a certain friends silver bullet he kept buggin me abnout how the a5 sucken was better (even tho he was always **female dog** ing about how his gun broke every time he played with it) and i didnt let it bother me but it got annoying. in the end i bought a BKO because I wanted a new gun and not because of anybody else. ------------- Rockin' the Ironman Intimidator. The Original Redneck Gangsta |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 11:32pm
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Yeah, im getting a BKO, i love 'em, waaay, better than the Fenix in my opinion...but thats my opinion, i don't know why people get opinions offa here because (mostly) everyone has such a baised, unreliable opinion...its only like this here though...i'd like to know why. Don't flame, i was just making an observation, i like this place, so screw you horror. /me runs and puts flame suit on. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: glooey
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 11:26pm
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where can u get a t chip for the fenix tho
------------- USMA |
Posted By: 98c Dude13
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 11:34pm
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The BKO murders the Spyder Fenix. ------------- TIPPMANN 98 CUSTOM 14" Progressive barrel 32* Black gel grips BT-16 Double trigger Pen Spring Mod X-core Expansion Chamber Vertical Adapter |
Posted By: A5player
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:58pm
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i'm just curious, have you ever shot either gun? Also we are talking about the Fenix acs, a little bit different. It has the capability of outshooting the bko. The bko shoots 18 stock i belive, and the fenix acs can shoot up to 20. Since you probably havent shot either, i'm going to say that you dont know what your talking about, and shouldnt post on forums when you can be no help to anyone. |
Posted By: A5player
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:59pm
you can get the t-board w/ eye for your spyder at http://www.scenariogames.com - www.scenariogames.com the t-chip is just an upgrade for the t-board |
Posted By: ztbisme
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 8:08pm
Your talking about being no help to anyone when your basing your whole synopsis of the guns on how many BPS they can shoot. |
Posted By: A5player
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 9:26pm
with the guns being so similar just what exactly would you base it upon....weight? not much left to use between the guns huh smartass |
Posted By: ztbisme
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 11:35pm
See, this shows your not very smart. I say one thing and you have to resort to name calling. And depending on what he wants out of the gun I guess you could compare weight if you wanted. Not to mention reliability, size, and the potential to upgrade. |
Posted By: A5player
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 12:10am
| well in your opinion which is more reliable, and which has more potential to upgrade. Also, just what exactly would you base your sypnosis of the guns on? they both are near equal in weight, and have numerous upgrades...so what else is there for you to base it upon |
Posted By: ztbisme
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 12:15am
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From my experience the BKO is more reliable. I don't own one but I have
played with one and more than one person at the field where I play owns
one. And as for upgrading, they both have great upgrade
potential. And I beleive I already said what you could base it
on, but if you want to get technical you could base it on every aspect
of the gun, from the wiring to the stock barrel. |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 12:17am
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okay, im gunna say BKO, again. It says 18 bps, but it can go faster than that, i was hangin out messin around with a dynasty shocker and Danny, (my age, works there, dad owns shop...bastard...) bust out a BKO fresh outta the box and we go out back and he test the bps with one of those red chrono things...it was about 19-20, i don't know why it says 18, probaly because it down't have an eye and 18 bps is like a "safe line" and if you go over you will chop like there's no tomorrow unless u have an egg 2 or halo. Just my 2 cents. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |