Corporal Punishment
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Topic: Corporal Punishment
Posted By: .Ryan
Subject: Corporal Punishment
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 7:55pm
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So me and my friend had another one of our
conversations and we were talkin about the book Starship Troopers by
Robert Hienlien and how he talks about people being whipped in the town
square for committing crimes. We'll we were talking and we decided that
even though it sounds barbaric to our pc society that we've created in
the last 60 years it really wouldn't be that bad of an idea. I really
think if we started sentencing criminals to lashes in public instead of
months and parole that the crime rate would drop through the floor. I
mean seriously, what sounds worse, a few months in a place where you
are fed and clothed and taken care of at tax payer expense or being
whipped 15 times infront of a crowd of spectators. And think about
being one of those spectators, I bet you wouldn't do whatever that guy
did. I know it would never happen in today's America but it's still an
interesting theory. Your thoughts?
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Posted By: chs61224
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 8:01pm
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yea, i bet prison is fun. All the gang violence and **edited** rapings you could ask for. ------------- All about the Snow. |
Posted By: chs61224
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 8:02pm
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and why can't we say the other word for homosexual, it isn;t offensive. ------------- All about the Snow. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 20 December 2004 at 8:03pm
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I dont think it would work... It has been tried and it didnt work. ------------- 
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 12:03am
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wow...I was expecting at least FOUR replys....wait...
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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 12:40am
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I'm always down for the "An eye for an eye" theory. ------------- 
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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 12:42am
I agree, belive whatever you do, should be done back to you. I dont think it would work, the punishments would have to be much worse than 15 whips in public. ------------- 
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¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤ wrote:Posted By: impulse
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 1:09am
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Good idea, but will never happen. ------------- 6,600 posts. I need a lifE |
Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 8:03am
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The eye for an eye worked very well for the egyptions. So I cant see how it could not work for us too. ------------- 95 base neon 3.0 cai, knifedged crankshaft 60 mill throttle body,14 crane cam crane springs/retainers eagle rods port matched/ polished intake p&p head shaved .015 phantom grip diff dohc exuast |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 8:23am
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Besides - I would much rather have 15 lashes than 6 months jail. Not even a close contest. Jail serves a variety of functions, at least in theory - it keeps people from committing crimes while in prison, it gives society a chance to brainwash them, and it provides punishment/deterrant. Whipping only provides the punishment/deterrant. It doesn't take criminals off the street, and provides no brainwashing opportunity. And, unless you are talking permanent disfigurement/crippling (a la Taliban), I challenge the deterrant value of physical punishment. As mentioned above, I would certainly choose a significant amount of temporary pain over a lengthy jail term. I suspect many others would as well. |
Posted By: Grunt
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 9:14am
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LOL This will sound sick but my friends and I go for corporal puishment hands down, we don't even have to be asked. Sometimes when we're bored we think of ideas on how to do it. ------------- 98 Custom Flatline CAR stock Pro/Carbine stock |
Posted By: slacker guy
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 3:29pm
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i think an eye for an eye....if some1 rapes some1 they should
be raped publicly and worse with like a lamp or somehting ------------- 
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Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 3:34pm
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Eye for an eye definitly doesn't work. People will respond until things
got completely unruly. And then would 15 lashes or 6 months in jail
matter?
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 3:44pm
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i think the book might have been a parable for nazism, well at any rate i know the movie was(pile of pooh) but getting whipped, if you get whipped enough times, its possible to die, i dont want anyone to get whipped for stealing a pack of condoms ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors"> 
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Posted By: Salem
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 3:51pm
Whip em then Jail em. Problem solved. -Kasey ------------- 
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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 4:00pm
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Put a standard tattoo on their face every time they commit a crime then send them to jail.
One for while there in jail, and a small addition when they get out so you can easily identify escaped convicts. ------------- 
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Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 4:37pm
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Thats exactly how me and my friends are. If you commit a crime you get that same crime down to you only worse. ------------- 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 5:14pm
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yup, a friend of ours, we found out he was keying our cars during lunch, we took/ stole his car in the middle of the night and put it in the middle of the field at school. it got towed, he had to pay to get it out of the tow lot ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 5:18pm
| My question is, regardless of the crime committed, who has the right to determine what kind of physical punishment is taken? Who is better than anyone else that they can choose how to physically harm the criminal? |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 5:25pm
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the government. they are under the impression that "might is right" so i guess what they say goes in their own country ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 5:27pm
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I would never be for that type of punishment because it isn't just. The government, filled with the same greedy people the rest of the world is, should not be able to physically harm a criminal, only detain them like prison. |
Posted By: Badsmitty
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 5:49pm
| Today I was teaching my anger management class in the 2700 man medium security prison that I work in. An inmate was discussing how he gets furious about the inmate in the bottom bunk of their bunk bed who keeps masturbating nearly non-stop. It shakes the bed and of course there are the noises of pleasure emanating from the lower bunk. Are you sure that prison is the easy place that it is purported to be? I'll be happy to tell stories of what it is like to lose your freedom and live in a prison. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 5:57pm
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oh man...well, its better than the alternative, i guess ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 5:59pm
| Yeah, prison isn't a vacation. I'm sure some things could be taken out, but for the most part, it seems like good enough punishment. |
Posted By: Badsmitty
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 6:02pm
| Besides, where would the non-wealthy mentally ill get treatment? |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 6:05pm
| It's too bad treatment for these people is just shoving them into jail and prison and forgetting about them. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 9:52pm
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To whoever stole the car: you should have beat the hell out of it with bats and such too....just my 2 cents... Anyway, I like some of what people are saying in here. I agree that whipping(I was using 15 lashes as an example...) wouldn't take people out of society or allow you to "brain wash" them but I'm not saying that we do this to people who need to be taken out of society. They should either be put in jail for a long long time or killed, I'm just saying that instead of paying for someones life for a year and a half because they had sex with someone 30 years younger than them who happened to be a relative(true case, saw the trial) that it would be better just to put them in front of everyone, make sure everyone knows what they did, give 'em 30 lashes and put 'em on a strict parole. That and I really really think it would deter people from doing stupid crap like stealing cars or purses or jumping white people for thier shoes or whatever, especially if you had the scars from the last time or your best friend did. Oh and btw, when do we "brain wash" our inmates and when does it work? We don't much and it doesn't. sumthin like 89% of inmates are in at least 3 times. So really, whats the point? Not to mention, it would kind of brain wash them. For one they get the shame and physical pain, also known as negitive reenforcment which is a well known "brain washing" technique. Also, all those onlookers will have that same negitive reenforcment, just a softer version. So really, you still have that effect. ps The Tattoo idea it awsome too. ------------- |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 9:55pm
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we figured him paying to get his car out of tow was a good enough punishment ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 9:59pm
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Well, you should have at least keyed it....
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:13pm
| They should be whipped or killed? And you have the authority to make those types of monumental decisions. Regardless of what the person did they are still a citizen and should be punished by incarceration. No person or government has the right to physically harm or kill their citizens. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:15pm
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Beg to differ there, Dune - I don't see that a government has any less "right" to physically harm its citizens than it has to incarcerate them. Just a matter of current rules and expectations. I personally believe the corporeal punishment is generally counterproductive (with the possible exception of the death penalty), but certainly don't see any reason why we couldn't have it.
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:17pm
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Umm, Yeah...Public Lashings? Tatoos? Back a couple hundred years ago some guys had this to say about it: Amendment VIII: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:18pm
| I understand your point; however, in terms of punishment, I see physical harm and killing to be a decision that cannot at any time be made by anyone. Incarceration on the other hand seems almost like immigration, if it's the government's land they can choose who lives on it. |
Posted By: sig2206.A-5
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:19pm
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They should bring back the fireing squad..... ------------- naughtydogs jr www.naughtydogs.us - www.naughtydogs.us www.aggsauce.com - www.aggsauce.com |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:24pm
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I hope not. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:26pm
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Interesting distinction. But by that logic, should not the correct punishment be banishment, rather than imprisonment? |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:28pm
| Very true, but with immigration you deport back to their original country. If the original country is America, then incarceration. It's not that simple of course, but just a different way to look at it. |
Posted By: sig2206.A-5
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:34pm
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If they were to bring it back, look how horrible and inhuman it looks, they would make the crime rate drop(maybe) noone wants to die like that. If nothing eles, it sure will be alot cheaper... ------------- naughtydogs jr www.naughtydogs.us - www.naughtydogs.us www.aggsauce.com - www.aggsauce.com |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:37pm
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As a form of capital punishment, the firing squad wouldn't be cheaper. The appeals process and such are the reasons it is so expensive in the first place. Plus, it is shown that capital punishment, no matter what form, is not a deterrent. |
Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:40pm
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tax money would go down ------------- 
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:44pm
| what? how? |
Posted By: 98c Dude13
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:46pm
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I don't belive in corporal punishment. I recieved swats six times by a strong man then didn't want to go back to school. If I ever become a principle I will not have it at my school. ------------- TIPPMANN 98 CUSTOM 14" Progressive barrel 32* Black gel grips BT-16 Double trigger Pen Spring Mod X-core Expansion Chamber Vertical Adapter |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:48pm
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I think I will sit back and watch and see what further unfolds. I have enough prisoner reform theories in my classes.
I will say that the big problem is that there is no focus, budget, or care on prisoner rehabilitation. This is a huge generalization of the Crimial Justice system, but if an example is shown that refutes, this statement it will be of the rarest situation. -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 21 December 2004 at 10:49pm
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And I took enough in college. |