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Skill or Gun

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Topic: Skill or Gun
Posted By: ss88
Subject: Skill or Gun
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 1:40pm

Im sick of people arguing that the gun is what makes you win, and its the skill that makes you win.




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Posted By: pballa818
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 2:24pm
there should be one for "both."

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Posted By: radical_paint
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 3:16pm
its the gun that makes the playa..... skill aint nuffin with out a gun yo


Posted By: Hybrid-X
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 3:19pm
Originally posted by radical_paint radical_paint wrote:

its the gun that makes the playa..... skill aint nuffin with out a gun yo


Rrrriiiiighhhhttt.... it should be like

89%Skill

10% Gun

1% Luck


-Jeremy.



Posted By: radical_paint
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 3:25pm

naw its 99% gun 1/2 % luck and 1/2% cheating

 

 

 

 

 

 

if u belive me ur a m0ron lol j/k!



Posted By: mastersniper
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 4:38pm
i have played against many awsome players who would be better if they would just break down and spend some money on a good gun.......

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Posted By: A5player
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:43pm

Originally posted by radical_paint radical_paint wrote:

its the gun that makes the playa..... skill aint nuffin with out a gun yo

so according to your logic, a newb with a cyborg or some other awesome gun would destroy an experieced player with something like a low end fenix or even a tippmann....i dont think so. A gun is nothing without someone with skill holding it



Posted By: The Man
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:18pm
Both.

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Posted By: pballa818
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:19pm
Originally posted by A5player A5player wrote:

Originally posted by radical_paint radical_paint wrote:

its the gun that makes the playa..... skill aint nuffin with out a gun yo

so according to your logic, a newb with a cyborg or some other awesome gun would destroy an experieced player with something like a low end fenix or even a tippmann....i dont think so. A gun is nothing without someone with skill holding it



And a good player is nothing with a good gun...so its BOTH 50/50


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Posted By: Ariakon_Eagle
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:21pm
You need the skill. But a good gun that can match your skill can help. But if you have the skill you can still win with any gun(unless it has problems, or its a BE). 75% player, 24% gun, 1% Luck

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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:38pm

Who the hell argues their gun makes them a better player anyway? I have ever once seen anybody seriously think their marker made them a better player.

 



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Posted By: Darklight
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 7:10pm
SKILL!!

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Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 11:27pm

As long as the gun fires when the trigger is pulled and it shoots accurately, your skill level will determine whether you win or lose. I do about just as good when I play with my pump as I do with my other guns. Why? Because the gun will fire when I need it to and I know the right time/place to shoot. I'm sure most people don't consider an SL-68II to be high end but even if I played with a cocker or an electro I'd play the same way. The only time a gun will make me lose is if it doesn't work properly. If the gun chops like crazy or is terribly inaccurate then it will mess me up and I won't be able to play to my potential. As long as it can put a shot where I aim, I'm fine. I don't give a crap about ROF or any of that. It's good to be able to shoot fast when you have to give cover and stuff but otherwise, it's unnecessary.

But anyway, trust me on this. I've seen plenty of fairly new players go to the field with expensive guns and I've taken them out of the game with much less firepower. The reason is because I'm more experienced and I know what I'm doing, they don't. They may have more firepower but if they don't know how to use it then they're not going to be nearly as threatening as a guy who's very skilled and uses an entry level gun.



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Posted By: 98c Dude13
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 12:40am

Originally posted by radical_paint radical_paint wrote:

its the gun that makes the playa..... skill aint nuffin with out a gun yo

 Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard a newbie say. Thats like saying bob long will lose against me because he has a spyder victor. He would still kick my butt. And if your a weiger then just leave the freaking forum. And act like a freaking white person.



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Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 3:14am
Its all about the gun. Why else would they be $1400?


Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 12:04pm
Originally posted by pballa818 pballa818 wrote:

there should be one for "both."


Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 1:16pm
Originally posted by 98c Dude13 98c Dude13 wrote:

Originally posted by radical_paint radical_paint wrote:

its the gun that makes the playa..... skill aint nuffin with out a gun yo

 Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard a newbie say. Thats like saying bob long will lose against me because he has a spyder victor. He would still kick my butt. And if your a weiger then just leave the freaking forum. And act like a freaking white person.

werd...lol, j/k

yeah, but its both really.

Im choosing skill because once i played against a total newbie and his dad bought him the ULTIMATE SHOCKER PACKAGE w/a sp jersey and everything and i was constantly owning him on the feild with my little pirahna...so yeah, its most definitly skill.



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Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 8:00pm
im sick of stupid threads like this

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 8:15pm
Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:

Its all about the gun. Why else would they be $1400?


you got a point there.


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Posted By: A5player
Date Posted: 24 December 2004 at 1:51am
Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:

Its all about the gun. Why else would they be $1400?

probably because your buying a name. For example, why does a harley davidson cost so much? Because of the name. It doesnt mean it's the best, but that name has built a reputation, just like the name angel, e-blade cocker, and shocker. You hear those names and everyone of us automatically thinks of a great gun. It's skill all the way though



Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 12:33pm
Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:

Its all about the gun. Why else would they be $1400?

The answer is simple, because some people are too dumb to question the price tag and will pay outrageous amounts of money for a gun. A high price tag doesn't mean a thing. I could buy a stingray II and try to sell it for $1000, that doesn't make it a good gun at all. My friend bought a dragon timmy for about $1400 and he has so many problems with that thing. My $400 98 is more reliable than his timmy and the only advantage he has is ROF which I couldn't care less about. I can hit like 10 bps and that's plenty for me, I rarely even need to shoot that fast, let alone faster. People love to buy things just because they're expensive and assume that they're paying for what they get, which tends to be wrong in most cases, and these companies love it because they're making tons of cash off of the ignorance of their customers. A lot of guns being sold at high price tags should really go for hundreds cheaper but they keep their high price because people will pay it.



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Posted By: Shadowminion
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 6:12pm

Without the skill, I let you have a 2500 dollar gun, My pump owns JOO !!

Edit : That'd be my Cheap Pump,,



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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 26 December 2004 at 11:52am
Originally posted by A5player A5player wrote:

Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:

Its all about the gun. Why else would they be $1400?

probably because your buying a name. For example, why does a harley davidson cost so much? Because of the name. It doesnt mean it's the best, but that name has built a reputation, just like the name angel, e-blade cocker, and shocker. You hear those names and everyone of us automatically thinks of a great gun. It's skill all the way though

He was joking. Way to buy way to much into his joke.



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Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 26 December 2004 at 1:36pm
It works all to well


Posted By: j2duhr
Date Posted: 26 December 2004 at 1:57pm
Well your on the forum with like 9year olds...

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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 26 December 2004 at 10:30pm

70% skill 25% gun 4% luck 1% cheating ablity(u no u have tried it)

 



Posted By: pballa818
Date Posted: 26 December 2004 at 11:10pm
Originally posted by A5player A5player wrote:

Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:

Its all about the gun. Why else would they be $1400?

probably because your buying a name. For example, why does a harley davidson cost so much? Because of the name. It doesnt mean it's the best, but that name has built a reputation, just like the name angel, e-blade cocker, and shocker. You hear those names and everyone of us automatically thinks of a great gun. It's skill all the way though



thats the worst example ever.... please dont talk about something u dont know, even if u have a harley, it looks like u dont know much about it cas its not the name that makes the price so high, its the quality, you know how long harleys last?...


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Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 27 December 2004 at 9:15am
Originally posted by ss88 ss88 wrote:

Im sick of people arguing that the gun is what makes you win, and its the skill that makes you win.

you got that right my friend thinks its the other way

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Posted By: Tippmenn9804
Date Posted: 27 December 2004 at 10:47am

i think its what that dude said ^^^ 75% skill 24% luck 1% gun

because say two guys are in a war and one has a eradicator (sucky)

and the other had an angel (good) and the one with the eradicator has skill and the one with angel has no skill then the one with the eradicator is hopping around shooting the one with the angel and the one with the angel is firing rounds after rounds off and is hitting nothing but thin air thats when my logic comes into play (well whoevers logic it is)    



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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 27 December 2004 at 1:00pm
80% skill
20% gun


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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 27 December 2004 at 2:31pm

93% what you say on the internet, 6.9% the gun you have, .1% cheating.

(skill dosnt matter)



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Posted By: pballa818
Date Posted: 27 December 2004 at 3:55pm
Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

93% what you say on the internet, 6.9% the gun you have, .1% cheating.

(skill dosnt matter)



lol



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Posted By: Hella Cool
Date Posted: 27 December 2004 at 4:32pm
The main use of having an awesome gun is the intimidation factor.

Its a combination:
Skill: 65%
Gun: 30%
Luck: 5%

This is true if all the players have reasonably similar guns. (Within $1000)


Posted By: MurderersRow
Date Posted: 27 December 2004 at 6:20pm
luck has nothing to do with it, unless you mean coincedince (excuse my spelling)

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Posted By: red_alert204
Date Posted: 27 December 2004 at 6:54pm
Ok here my take on this.  The gun can help the player alot depending on the type of person.  Take me for example or anyone who has a low self esteem, they will know what to do and how to do but dont apply themselves because with there gun its almost as you just dont want to try because you think you suck.  I played one day and did alright next day I got my angel did very well.  I was applying myself and playing bunkers correctly.  Either i got really good over night or my new gun gave me more confidence.  It may sound really dumb but is true for me and others I know.  A couple weeks ago I played and was doing good then my angel stopped working and had to use a rental and I wasnt doing things right I was scared to make moves.......  Think it about it and it makes sense for some people

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Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 27 December 2004 at 6:56pm

Agreed...

My 0.2

10%skill 10%gun 10%luck 10%paint color 10%opposition 10%playing surface 10%trigger sensitivity 10%weather conditions 10%your post count 10%time 10%date 10%year

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Posted By: Dave_09
Date Posted: 27 December 2004 at 7:05pm

Originally posted by radical_paint radical_paint wrote:

its the gun that makes the playa..... skill aint nuffin with out a gun yo

 

wow



Posted By: Tybmx2006
Date Posted: 28 December 2004 at 11:27am
it's all about skill.

YOUR WRONG, IM RIGHT!
i think it is all about skill, i could send one of my friends out into a paintball game and they will have a angel, or a dm5, and they would loose, because they dont know any good tacticts. It takes time to  build up experience and be able to conquer the competition. Some people think by buying a high end gun, they buy the years of experience, i know that i can beat a spyder anyday, a a-5 anyday, and a spyder electro anyday, becuase i spend more time on skills, and i know that buying the gun does not make you that good. I have a tippmann, and it may not shoot fast, but i can still kick a dm5 or a angels ass if i really tried.


Posted By: Fast Splat
Date Posted: 28 December 2004 at 5:43pm
It's both. Sometimes the gun and sometimes the person. Look at Tippmann Effect. They have Tippmanns and have gone against really good teams and have beaten them. That's skill. Now I hate Dynasty so I am going to have to say the guns for them. Yeah I geuss it is the gun more so than the skill.

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Posted By: MoNTYandTIMMoN
Date Posted: 28 December 2004 at 9:21pm

30%luck

35%gun

35%Skill

The gun really does, matter.  If ur shooting 4bps and ur opponent is shooting 20 ur only chance is luck.



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Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 28 December 2004 at 9:34pm
Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:

It works all to well


feels good to be a lot smarter than the majority of the forum don't it

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Posted By: Stiffler
Date Posted: 28 December 2004 at 9:42pm

so the guys that are saying its all in the gun consider this: theres more skill then just pulling the trigger. you have to aim and be able to manuever and have guts; that all takes skill. a newb that can pull a trigger on a $1000 gun will not take out a pro with a $100 gun. the gun just better enhances the players skill.



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Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 29 December 2004 at 1:58am
Common sense must not be to common...


Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 29 December 2004 at 11:58am
Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:

Common sense must not be to common...


ya that and common knowledge

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Posted By: pballa818
Date Posted: 29 December 2004 at 2:04pm
there is no right answer to this.. let this thing die

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Posted By: Liquid3
Date Posted: 29 December 2004 at 10:48pm
Go play against some good old school pump players. I have seen a good team sweep game after game against other teams w/ top of the line guns. I have also had my butt handed to me after they were done whipping it plenty of times. They taught me a ton about how to play smart.


Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 30 December 2004 at 1:41am
Awsome D00d!


Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 30 December 2004 at 3:54am
Originally posted by pballa818 pballa818 wrote:

there should be one for "both."


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Posted By: loganfordusmc
Date Posted: 06 January 2005 at 8:27pm

Well I think it is about 35% marker and about 65%skill because my first 3 times playing I never got hit and I dont hide and wait for someone to walk out im fast, accurate and I work well with my team but I also have a model 98 and I haft to admit its a good gun but I was playing with two guys with angels and three with WGP karnivors and I never got hit.



Posted By: Legend
Date Posted: 07 January 2005 at 3:38pm
I think its both.  A good gun will help but without the skill your nothing.


Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 07 January 2005 at 3:54pm

why did you guys have to bump this thread, its so old...just let it die...



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Posted By: PaintballJoe
Date Posted: 07 January 2005 at 9:06pm
The Gun can be a difference maker. Why did they have the Thompson Machine Gun and the M1 Garand in WWII? I could stay with almost anyone on the field until the DM4 came out. We do have a Local that came in 10th at World Cup in Rookie Ball. He can outshoot me probably 8 to 2 or 9 to 1. Skill is most important.


Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 08 January 2005 at 12:31am
I've played speedball with my pump before and have done just as good as other players using mech/electro semi-auto guns. I'm not saying that I'm an amazing player or anything but unless a pump is considered better than say a cocker then I definitely didn't take these people out because of an advantage in firepower. They shot at me at whatever ROF and I shot once every few seconds back. Why did I get them instead of them hitting me? Maybe I was a better shot, maybe I'm better at playing tight to the bunker, maybe I can dodge their shots too good, maybe they're blind and couldn't hit me if I aimed the gun for them, who knows. What it came down to was a difference in skill, proving that having more skill can be more advantageous than having more firepower. I see people with "low-end" guns and rentals taking out guys with super guns all the time.

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Posted By: Behemoth
Date Posted: 08 January 2005 at 11:08am
Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:

Its all about the gun. Why else would they be $1400?
Oh no,another one who shoots only in full auto hoping to hit anything.

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Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 09 January 2005 at 8:11pm
^ wow your retarded arent you.


Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 09 January 2005 at 11:04pm
Originally posted by ss88 ss88 wrote:

Im sick of people arguing that the gun is what makes you win, and its the skill that makes you win.

what he said



Posted By: Behemoth
Date Posted: 13 January 2005 at 10:50am
Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:

^ wow your retarded arent you.
Oh, sorry, did I hurt your feelings?

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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 13 January 2005 at 11:49am
You probably did, Civ doesn't have alot of self confidence.

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Posted By: TheButlerDid It
Date Posted: 13 January 2005 at 3:11pm

To get all philisophical, the gun should be made to fit the player's skill. A person who loves to take a few shots is not the best equipped with a spyder imagine (well...nobody is best equipped with that....) and a guy who loves to "hold the line" and be rambo should not have a phantom. The skill should determine the gun and it should be a part of the player. I'm not saying the gun doesn't affect the outcome of a firefight, but the player makes the game a victory or defeat

But I have solved this entire dispute. Take a man off the street and lend him an angel. Next get an ex-navy seal and give him a bag of paintball. See who wins.



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Posted By: boarder2k7
Date Posted: 14 January 2005 at 6:13pm
TheButlerDid It --- This thread was ancient untill you brought it up again. Nobody likes pointless bumping on stupid topics.


Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 14 January 2005 at 8:09pm
Originally posted by Behemoth Behemoth wrote:

Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:

^ wow your retarded arent you.

Oh, sorry, did I hurt your feelings?

except civ might be one of the best players on this forum.

Anyway, to who ever thinks you need skill to play paintball...you dont. Plain and simple. The more the gun costs, the better you will do.



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Posted By: Spot1st
Date Posted: 14 January 2005 at 10:29pm

BOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 



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Posted By: paintball_idiot
Date Posted: 14 January 2005 at 11:00pm

Ok, I know guys that play with Brass Eagle Tigersharks from like, the early 90's ON PURPOSE! Why, because it gives them a challenge. and, for some mysterious reason only God and these few guys can explain, THEY ALWAYS WIN. I can only imagine what would happen if you gave these guys semiauto's or 'cockers

Edit: this only proves that skill is 99.9999% and the gun is 0.0001%

'Nuff said



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Posted By: Behemoth
Date Posted: 14 February 2005 at 4:11pm
Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

Originally posted by Behemoth Behemoth wrote:

Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:

^ wow your retarded arent you.

Oh, sorry, did I hurt your feelings?

except civ might be one of the best players on this forum.

Anyway, to who ever thinks you need skill to play paintball...you dont. Plain and simple. The more the gun costs, the better you will do.

You probably have never been in a real war now have you?



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Posted By: tippmann ruler
Date Posted: 14 February 2005 at 8:30pm

The answer is the paintballs they determine everything good gun bad paintballs it jus dont work oh ya and a lil skill



Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 14 February 2005 at 9:37pm
Skill.

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Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 14 February 2005 at 11:22pm
wOw..

This thread deserves..

Cactus


Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 15 February 2005 at 4:14pm
Originally posted by Behemoth Behemoth wrote:

Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

Originally posted by Behemoth Behemoth wrote:

Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:


^ wow your retarded arent you.

Oh, sorry, did I hurt your feelings?


except civ might be one of the best players on this forum.


Anyway, to who ever thinks you need skill to play paintball...you dont. Plain and simple. The more the gun costs, the better you will do.



You probably have never been in a real war now have you?



your probally still in middle school arent you?

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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 15 February 2005 at 8:50pm
Originally posted by MoNTYandTIMMoN MoNTYandTIMMoN wrote:

The gun really does, matter. If ur shooting 4bps and ur opponent is shooting 20 ur only chance is luck.


So what you're saying is... that every time I took my nearly stock A-5 (just a LAPCO Bigshot) and won against a kid with an Angel, Timmy, Shocker, BKO, or any of the other electros I've encountered, it was luck.

Most of the people at my field do shoot extremely fast guns and I can still consistantly eliminate 4-5 people a game on a good day. You know nothing.

This is what the true ratio is: 35% Reaction Time, 25% Marker Handling, 35% Tactics, 5% Physical Strength.

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Posted By: playin in paint
Date Posted: 15 February 2005 at 9:06pm
Originally posted by radical_paint radical_paint wrote:

its the gun that makes the playa..... skill aint nuffin with out a gun yo
     Thats bull u have to have skill to work the gun


Posted By: Behemoth
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 3:34pm
Originally posted by GhilleMan GhilleMan wrote:

Originally posted by Behemoth Behemoth wrote:

Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

Originally posted by Behemoth Behemoth wrote:

Originally posted by Civilian Of Civilian Of wrote:


^ wow your retarded arent you.

Oh, sorry, did I hurt your feelings?


except civ might be one of the best players on this forum.


Anyway, to who ever thinks you need skill to play paintball...you dont. Plain and simple. The more the gun costs, the better you will do.



You probably have never been in a real war now have you?



your probally still in middle school arent you?

Ha ha, good one !



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Posted By: Curlyman666
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 6:39pm
i think he is still in middle skool to bump a thread like this just for a dumb comeback

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Posted By: RamboBlue
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 8:03pm
when i started playing paintball i thought that it was just the marker. So my cusin who has been playing for about 4 years traded me guns. he has a a5 with a flatline and e-grip. and i has a stock pmi r6. lets just say he beat my ass, so that proof right there that its not yr marker its how much skill and experance.

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TIPPMANN KICKS ASS
Champions know pain, endure pain, and never complain
98% of paintballers act gangsta', if you are of the 2% that are normal, put this this in your sig.


Posted By: Ihaveanitch
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 8:18pm

Its always great to have both but skill always comes first, if you focus your money on upgrades you won't have enough for praticing/going paintballin, and even if your rich you'll be sadly disappointed that your pimped up gun will be beatin by its stock self or by some other lesser gun by a guy that has great talent.

Imo Skill+gun>Skill>gun



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Posted By: TowShen
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 10:51pm
Originally posted by radical_paint radical_paint wrote:

its the gun that makes the playa..... skill aint nuffin with out a gun yo


so what your saying, is that i some one who has not yet paintballed befor would be able to own if i had a top of the line gun?

i dont think so...a friend of mine had a wal-mart brass eagle pump and he pawned people with decked out guns and even some one how has a Angel.

so just my nobish opinion i would have to say at least 75% skill and 20% gun and 5% luck.


Posted By: DrexelSkaPB
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 11:10pm
Equipment reinforces your skill, and vice versa, more skill though. But nothing comes close to the importance of good communication and teamwork. I don't care if you're throwing paintballs, if your communicating better than the other team, you have a better chance of winning.

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It seems like all the cool cats do this:
Custom 98, Flatline, r/t, CAR stock, custom camo paintjob, which every hopper I feel like putting on it, vertical adapter, oh dibs, I'm running out of charact


Posted By: Behemoth
Date Posted: 03 March 2005 at 2:55pm

Originally posted by Curlyman666 Curlyman666 wrote:

i think he is still in middle skool to bump a thread like this just for a dumb comeback

He Curlyboy,who asked you anything?



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Posted By: ProPaiNTbaLLA
Date Posted: 25 March 2005 at 7:38pm

I say its probably like 97% skill, 1 % luck and 2% gun because Ive got a tippmann and I own every1 at the field, I mean theres frickin kids w/ brand new Dm5s and shockers and there shootin at me, I'm not intimidatid at all I just shoot back, I meen I love pointing at them as soon as I lite them up, and for they to know that they were hiw by a young gun w/ a tippmann. Thtaz the best feelin ever lol!!



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Hey Setup:
Tippmann 98
Progressive 14"
Pure Energy 20oz.
Dead on paintball Drop, double tigger
W.G.P Trilogy Competition
V.L Revi 12 volt
J&J 2-pieceperformance 12"
cya on the field!!!



Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 25 March 2005 at 8:45pm
Spelling helps your game a lot!


Posted By: RamboBlue
Date Posted: 27 March 2005 at 4:46pm

anyone who thinks that its the gun that wins the game must be a noob who dosnt know anything about paintball



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TIPPMANN KICKS ASS
Champions know pain, endure pain, and never complain
98% of paintballers act gangsta', if you are of the 2% that are normal, put this this in your sig.


Posted By: LoneGunman
Date Posted: 27 March 2005 at 6:50pm
LIKE TOLGAK said,


          YOU NEED SKILL TO PLAY, AT ALL!!!!!!!!!


Posted By: 98c Dude13
Date Posted: 27 March 2005 at 7:50pm
 Its more like this. 75% skill and like 25% gun.

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TIPPMANN 98 CUSTOM
14" Progressive barrel   
32* Black gel grips
BT-16 Double trigger
Pen Spring Mod
X-core Expansion Chamber
Vertical Adapter


Posted By: gsw.3
Date Posted: 27 March 2005 at 9:18pm

80% skill

20% Gun

I rate it like this because if you have a gun that does not shoot consistent, bust paint , and makes balls curve bad than you wont get any wheres but if you have a decent gun that does not do those things and are a good player than well  you get the picture. 



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Posted By: _Shane_
Date Posted: 27 March 2005 at 9:42pm

Originally posted by radical_paint radical_paint wrote:

its the gun that makes the playa..... skill aint nuffin with out a gun yo

Its the Gun that lets you be a player, its the skill that lets you be a good player.



Posted By: newbie527
Date Posted: 27 March 2005 at 10:40pm
I say its 70% skills, 25% gun and 1% luck... My reasoning is because it takes skill to have the reflexs and aimging to shoot some one .. the gun is important also so that your skill can work and your paintball wont go flying in another direction.. its also a little luck of popping out or cathing sum1 from behind.. thats my reasoning


Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 28 March 2005 at 10:06am

You people read way to much into jokes that are made on this forum. But its all good, Its how I have fun on here.

And of course I havent been in a real war. Im 16, and I play paintball. If I wanted to play war, I would do airsoft or enlist. What kind of question is that.

This thread is to old anyway.



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Posted By: MICHAELJK
Date Posted: 28 March 2005 at 8:25pm
im on a paintball team called team impy cuz most of us have impulses(except me i have my perfictly good tippmann). the three of us versed 2 people with basically stock 98customs. the only thing done 2 their guns were 14 inch barrels.those guys beat 2 rat impulses and a hooked up tippmann with stock tippman 98 customs. we got beaten so badly. I think its 99% skill!

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Black Vengence Autococker
12v revvy hopper clear
14in All American barrel
Karnivor Feed Neck
Black Rubber Bottom Hose
50ci/3500psi n2 tank





Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 4:39pm
its all skill if it were a little kid who didnt know the safety was on and didnt know how to use a gun who has a 2 trillion dollar gun and was facing another little kid who had a pump and knows how to use a paintball gun there u go its the kid with the pump

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model 98 - homemade handguard
solid stock - opsgear mag
polished internals
homemade sling - paintjob
operator barrel
progressive barrel
opsgear mag - stock


Posted By: katastropheeee
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 5:03pm
Quote probably because your buying a name. For example, why does a harley davidson cost so much? Because of the name. It doesnt mean it's the best, but that name has built a reputation, just like the name angel, e-blade cocker, and shocker. You hear those names and everyone of us automatically thinks of a great gun. It's skill all the way though


Its not always the name though. Your also paying for the materials its made from and what certain specials functions they contain that other items don't. 



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