merry christmas
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Topic: merry christmas
Posted By: ItalianoGuy04
Subject: merry christmas
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 4:44pm
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i put up signs in my school saying "merry Christmas" and by the end of teh day they all got taken down by teachers and non-believers :-( ------------- 
Supe'd up Spyda Victor, don't like it, don't care |
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 4:46pm
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You should have put up happy winter break.
I would have ripped them down just to see someone cry. ------------- 
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Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 4:46pm
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I put a Dilbert comic on all the doors and stuff. Nobody knows
that I do it and are all like "Ok...". True Story. I was
there.
------------- Something unknown is doing we don't know what. That is what our knowledge amounts to. - Sir Arthur Eddington |
Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 4:47pm
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Well, thats what happens when you are a little kid, no one respects you, or probably likes you very much either... At least, thats what happened to me... ------------- ///AMG What? |
Posted By: Hybrid-X
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 4:48pm
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Hades wrote:Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 4:48pm
| I put up nudies of me, I got an award for sexyness afterwards. |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 4:52pm
| Non-believers? Of what, a national holiday? |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 4:55pm
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It's winter break now, not Christmas break. Just like the schools banning Halloween because it might offend real witches. Apparently the mere observance of a religious holiday is enough to offend some people, and Merry Christmas signs could oppress somebody. :) ------------- 
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 4:58pm
| Ehh, if it's the only way to be fair to everyone. If not, put up signs that would equally appeal, it's only fair. |
Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:02pm
well, why can't he do it? Its not like the Jews and Moslems couldn't do it too |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:06pm
| If they were to put up signs saying Happy Kwanzaa or something they would be taken down too. It is just the school's regulation of whether posting signs should be up for grabs or just keep any problems from surfacing in the first place. |
Posted By: MROD
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:24pm
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Peopel are so weird. Atheists complained about a nativity scene around here. ------------- I need to find smaller pictures for my profile. |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:30pm
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Unless put infront of a church or person's home, if the nativity scene is the only form of religion shown it should be removed. That is, if it is sponsored by the city itself. |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:33pm
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Why should it be removed? No ones forcing you to look at it. Ohh I better tell the schools to stop teaching Darwins theory because it's against my religion. Who cares. It's Christmas, damn atheists need to shut up already. No ones forcing you to celebrate anything. ------------- 
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:34pm
| Well, if sponsored by the city, it is wrong for a government to do that sort of thing. It's too bad religious people can't at least try to be fair to one another. |
Posted By: tippy_182
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:35pm
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When people become so defensive of something, it usually means they
have thought about it and probably don't feel to great about the
decision upon it. Which I take to mean everytime a I lose a friend because of trying to explain God to them, at least they thought about it, and hopefully God will take it from there. Almost every friend that stopped talking to me was cool with me after a while though. I realize that was off subject but when I saw the non-believers taking offense and all, I got carried away....... ------------- 
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:37pm
| Yes, because believers are right about their religion. Wow, that sounds just as stupid written down as it does in my head. I got defensive because I feel as if other religions take too much flak for being different, or "wrong" to "believers." |
Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:37pm
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hey, let's just take everyones right away...t's not like our nation was founded on the freedom of religion
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Nobody ever suspects the fun police! 
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:40pm
| No right should be taken away, just like everyone can display what they want infront of their home. However, no religion should be given more acknowledegment in public, government owned areas. |
Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:41pm
what the hell? yes i believe my religion is right and that i don't agree with others...so yea i believe they aren't right...that doesn't mean i hate other religions or think the people in them are retarded...i just feel their views are wrong about the subject at matter and i'm sure it's the same on the other side -------------
Nobody ever suspects the fun police!
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:45pm
| That's still not a good enough reason for schools and courthouses (like the one in my town) to place nativity scenes or things of that nature up. |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:47pm
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Yes it is. Get over it. Freedom OF Religion not freedom FROM religion. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:48pm
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Its not only atheists that do this, most religions do to. I saw this one thing on the news where they kids couldnt sing religious xmas songs in their play because it could offend non christians/catholics. This country is full of stupid people. We just lock this people up, keep them beatings, then ask them which would they rather have, beatings or xmas carols? ------------- 
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:48pm
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No it's not, what part of government not showing prejudice to one religion do you not understand. There is no freedom if the government shows bias. So what should be allow, everything to do with Christianity? |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:52pm
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It's not biased. During Christmas theres Nativities. Hannaku (sp) manuras (sp) Kwanza, ummm whatever their symbol is. I don't complain about Happy Hannaku signs during that week and you shouldnt complain about Nativities. And what should the government do everything atheists want becasue maybe that offends me and the millions of Christians who live here? -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:52pm
and why not? it's just people getting in the holiday spirit and expressing their religion...what's wrong with having christmas, hannukah, kwanza whatever the hell you celebrate, decorations out in the park or in front of a building...those people have rights...it's not hurting anyone or causing problems...they're celebrating their religiion during one of their biggest holidays...man everytime one of these jerks makes these whole ban everything religiously related during the holidays reminds me of hte south park mr. hankey the christmas poo episode...just get rid of everything...even mistletoe... -------------
Nobody ever suspects the fun police!
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Posted By: tippy_182
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:52pm
If you put a buddah statue out, someone may complain, but noones going to do anything about it. Just as shocker said, I believe the views of other religions are wrong. I dont hate their temple, church, etc.... or the people in them. -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:53pm
| If they are placed on governmental property they should not be there. Are you even reading or just ignorantly posting? If a Happy Kwanzaa sign is posted on a courthouse lawn, with no other recognitions, it should be removed as well. |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:55pm
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It shouldnt be removed they should just place a nativity and manura. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:55pm
where the heck are you getting these arguments from? just because someone is christian and puts out a nativity scene doesn't make them religously biased...by all means someone can stick a huge manora(sp?) out in the front of a school if their very religious in judiasm(sp?) i don't mind they have the right to do their thing...i'm not taking it as "we're jewish all the other religions suck"...i'm happy for them...it's nice to see people with some holiday cheer...not like the assholes that just try to get rid of all religous holidaysand decorations from being publicized -------------
Nobody ever suspects the fun police!
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Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:57pm
no they shouldn't have to do that...but if anyone feels like putting one up then by all means go ahead...they have the right to celebrate their religion and not have to keep it equal with the other holidays -------------
Nobody ever suspects the fun police!
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Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:57pm
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Thank you shacker, couldnt have said it better myself. Those people really annoy me. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:57pm
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The point is, that if a municipal government, such as my own, refuses to place any other religion's festivities out other than a nativity scene, then it should be removed. You guys act like I'm talking about people's homes, for the last time, this refers to public property, where citizens cannot just go place what they want wherever they want. |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:58pm
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A happy kwanza sign CANT be put on a court house law. Seperation of church and state. And thats not even the point. The point is people can put holiday/religious decorations out on their lawn, office, church, whatever the hell they want because they government shouldnt not and really cant interfere with it. IF YOU DONT LIKE IT. IGNORE IT. No one is forcing you to stare at the nativity scene because you dont like it. Morons in this world today. -------------
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Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 5:59pm
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Very sorry to double post, slow computer, I agree, there is no need to be "Equal" If they want to put up a manura then fine, Nativity great, this whole :political correctness" is stupid. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:00pm
| I actually think you aren't reading the posts Vision. I was not talking about private property. |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:00pm
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either am i tard. go re read the post. -------------
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Posted By: MROD
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:01pm
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They should a big sign up sying Happy Chrismahanukwanzica, but even that would angry the atheists. The best bet is Happy Non-Denominational Winter Season ------------- I need to find smaller pictures for my profile. |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:01pm
Not talking about private land? I'm the tard? |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:02pm
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are you really that stupid? -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:03pm
| You're the one that was talking about private land. Public land, government land, is what I was talking about. |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:03pm
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That happy christmas hannakukwanza whatever is stupid. There is no need to mix the religions and their importances. And no happy demonital winter or whatever becasue December the 25th. is CHRISTMAS. The day we celebrate the birth of Christ. You can't change the meaning of a holiday to make some whiners happy. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:04pm
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Man, you act like this season only has one holiday. |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:06pm
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No, becasue no one complains about Kwanza, which is a reletively new holiday anyway, or Hanaku, they only complain about Christmas. And Hanaku is well over before Christmas. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:07pm
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I agree that it is complained about the most. However, if there was a blatant biased of any religion by the government, regardless of what it is, then it should be removed, or all other religions should be represented. |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:09pm
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First of all, i was talking about how the government CANT force people to take down decorations. SECOND i was reiterating all you're stupid posts about how people shouldnt put decorations up that offend people. And in truth, Fractus, shocker, and myself are defending all holidays from being able to put up decorations. -------------
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Posted By: MROD
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:10pm
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Fine, sorry I caught you in the middle of your period. ------------- I need to find smaller pictures for my profile. |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:10pm
| Good lord, you have not payed attention. I only stated that people (THE GOVERNMENT) should not be able to put up decorations in bias towards any religion, as they have done recently in my town. I have said in previous posts that people can put whatever they want out on their own property. You need to read first. |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:11pm
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Ohh it's ok. (MROD)
Well not putting up Christmas decorations is being biased to the millions of believers. Or is it Billions? -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:12pm
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No one puts up biased decorations. If you consider the nativity scene biased thatn you have problems. And you're complainging about someone putting decorations up on their own property... -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:14pm
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No I'm not, what are you reading? Putting up only a nativity scene on the COURTHOUSE (It's government owned land) and refusing to put up any other decorations is definitely biased. If it was a large decoration for Kwanza, all the Christians would be **edited**ing. |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:15pm
well good job mentioning that now....What makes you think you can insult others without even giving the extent of your arguement? -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:16pm
| I have been stating this the entire time. |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:16pm
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No, because Kwanza hasent started yet and Hanaku is over so there is no reason for those decorations. And you can't say it isn't Christmas because it's advent. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:17pm
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So, in honor of my religion's upcoming holiday, if I hung used condoms and used tampons all over a school or heck, my county owned place of employment, no one should be mad or offended since no one is forcing them to look at it?
I bet the outcry would be great. -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:17pm
| Well Chirstmas hasn't started yet either, so we should only put it up for one day then. If one goes up, they all go up, or they all come down. |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:18pm
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Condoms and tampons, I think we're the same religion. |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:19pm
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The nativity also refers to the 4 weeks of advent before Christmas, did you not read my above post? -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:22pm
Life, Death, and Fertility all rolled into one.  -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:22pm
| All religions deserve the same treatment, respect, and acknowledgement. Then only a Merry Christmas sign will go up for one day. |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:22pm
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The best way to live, in complete control. |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:25pm
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Thats stupid, its not up to christians to celebrate hanukah for the jews and visa versa. -------------
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Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:26pm
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Advent my friend, a very important part of Christmas. And don't forget the 12 days after Christmas, I forgot their technical names. It's all part of Christmas, not just one day. Why do you think Churches like mine have had the nativity out all month? however, the baby Jesus is not in it yet, symbolizing he is not yet born. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:26pm
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Good lord. Once again, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that the government needs to treat them all the same. |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:27pm
The Government cant tard! The Government cant interfere with religion! Jesus what does it take to get that through your head. Its been thrown at us since we started school pretty much. -------------
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Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:28pm
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your an athiest and you say good Lord? Thats beyond me. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:29pm
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Man, you don't pay attention at all. Well, it's not worth it to repeat the same posts a hundred times. I have spoken only about the government and those related areas in which they have been biased in my town. Obviously, it's too difficult to understand. Good lord is just a phrase, just like jesus christ, kind of like cussing. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:31pm
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Hahaha, this thread is extremely amusing. Some people are trying their hardest not to see the point.
Maybe we need to write it on a baseball bat and smack them in their head with it. -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:31pm
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Oh Hades, you always have the best ideas.
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Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:32pm
No, you dont understand, the government isnt being biased because they cant! holy crap. You've heard of Seperation of Church and State havent you? Well, go from there and see how much your arguement makes sense. -------------
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Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:32pm
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But then your assuming that he did exist. I don't say good Buddah. Yeah it's just a phrase but why athiests who cry about nativities on lgovt lawns say it is still beyond me. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:33pm
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The government has, my town is the perfect example. I've said this a million times, and it is a complete violation. It doesn't mean he existed, it's a phrase, a saying, not a belief. The arguments just keep getting worse and worse. |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:34pm
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Ohh stop crying. Who cares. I don't believe in Darwinsim but still learn it in school without complaining. It's a public school. Darwinism is basically it's own religion as it's all a big theory. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:35pm
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And how exactly does it offend you? Are you crying at night because you see a nativity scene? I cant stand religion but i believe in their right to practice it and do whatever they want with it. Im not going to stop them because i dont agree with them. Its stupid and pointless and takes away peoples rights. -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:35pm
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I love how it makes christians angry. Because I don't believe if their god, but I'm the one preaching equal treatment, not them. |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:37pm
Read my above post, im not religious. And forcing people to take down decorations is equality? Hmmm thats news to me. -------------
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:37pm
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"Oh Buddah." is used by some hypocrite lady that wants to get people to stop using swear words and would rather not say, "Oh, God."
Let me find her website. -------------
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Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:37pm
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Your not preaching equal treatment, if you were we would be allowed to have our Nativity. Your saying Christians can't clelebrate in public basically. What are you like 13? Just get over it. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:39pm
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No, I work in the courthouse where I oversee criminal trials. So I am not 13. I have said multiple times that if it was just a Kwanaza decoration then it should be taken down as well if others were not allowed to be put up. I think you're right Hades, refusing to see the point. |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:41pm
Refusing to see the point because it makes no sense! Why make tons of others angry just to make yourself happy. Thats not equality buddy. -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:42pm
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So taking down that one decoration because no others are allowed to be shown is fair? That's ridiculous. Don't waste your time Hades, they probably wouldn't even read the article. |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:43pm
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Well Ive about had enough with this argument it's stupid and pointless. Merry Christmas! -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:44pm
They are allowed to put other decorations up if they want! Hanukah is over. And no one really recognizes Kwanza...In fact its not really a holiday..... -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:44pm
| Happy Holidays. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:44pm
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Hmm. Tons of people were angry when Rosia Parks didnt move to the back of the bus. -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:44pm
| Not really a Holiday? Tell all of those who celebrate it. I think you're being a little unfair to religions. |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:47pm
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I didnt say i dont recognize it, but name one person you know who celebrates kwanza. And im not saying that because no one really knows about it that they cant put up decorations. By all means go ahead. But just because they arent allowed doesnt make it right to force others to take theres down. -------------
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Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:47pm
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Im not leaving yet. What does Kwanza celebrate anyway? -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:48pm
| After going through college I know plenty that celebrate it and would like to see it on the courthouse, but will never get that chance. |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:49pm
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You just love to contradict yourself. You're a self proclaimed atheist yet you want to see religious decorations....OK! -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:50pm
| I want to see equality. Regardless of the religion. I want to see an equal representation or no representation of religion. If you would pay attention you would have read that three pages ago. |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:55pm
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Forcing other religions decorations down is not going to get your equality. If you want that, you have to force every decoraiton down in the country. And besides getting your so called equality you're gonna piss of a lot of christians who are claiming its being biased. You cant win. Trust me. -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:57pm
| Pissing of Christians is much better than dienfranchising all other religions by not showing them respect with decorations. |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:58pm
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And then you cause more problems...Way to think. -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 6:58pm
| If christians are upset because other religions should be shown the same respect, then they are the ones with problems. |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 7:01pm
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Except thats not what they will be upset about..... -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 7:03pm
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I doubt it, but whatever. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 7:04pm
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So what will they be upset about? -------------
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Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 7:06pm
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The fact that their decorations got taken down...... -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 22 December 2004 at 7:06pm
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Your guess is as good as mine. |