What to get for a back up gun???
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Topic: What to get for a back up gun???
Posted By: MurderersRow
Subject: What to get for a back up gun???
Date Posted: 24 December 2004 at 4:29pm
Thank you to all that put serious thoughts into this. I am a serious tournament player with a serious poll. As of right now I shoot a Dye Matrix with about every upgrade to come to mind or almost or I will have shortly. I love this marker but I will need a backup soon for the tournament season coming up very fast but not fast enough. To those of you that say "Pimped out" or "Tricked out" Tippmann you should punch yourself in the face, I am not a newby looking for a cyclone feed or a marker that needs to have 200$ + put into it just to make it shoot 12 or so bps. Please if you have an "other" to suggest please reply with what it is. Whichever wins this I will most likely get. keep in mind I will probably not be upgrading much on this new marker or spending more than 1000$ on it for the initial price. Thank you all much. Happy Holidays!
------------- "Obsessed is just a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated" "Pain is temporary, pride is forever" "You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take" <- All I have to say is ACCURACY BY VOLUME!
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 24 December 2004 at 5:13pm
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Perhaps a Naughty Dogs Freestyle?
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Posted By: pballa818
Date Posted: 24 December 2004 at 6:05pm
go with a cool timmy
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Posted By: A5player
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 12:53pm
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look into a macdev cyborg
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Posted By: Jonner
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 1:02pm
cyborg by far
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Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 1:04pm
Sonic Cyborg. And then make your trix the backup.
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Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 1:07pm
Youl probly flame me for this judging by your SPEED oriented attituid but have you considered an Automag?
A ULE Coustom can shoot pretty quick and is FULLY mechanical.
There not very picky markers and offer Duribility Reliability and Ease
of use/maintain. There VERY small and light and are one of if not
the fastest Mechanical markers available. They dont need really
any upgrades other than a barrel (Cocker threads), And a Good HPA tank
and a nice mid range drop if you like em.
I actually bougth a Old MINIMAG as my Speedball PRIMARY gun but im not
a turny player im more a old time Woodsballer trying out the spedballl
scene. I do have a FIRM belife that more than 15bps is unessasary
and have done the math to prove it.
Look at it this way if your shooting say 10bps a 300ft/sec. There
would be a 30' gap between each ball. Now at 300ft/sec a 30' gap
would = one milisecond. GOOD LUCK DODGEING THAT FAST  . Were not even gona get into 15+ bps.
------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX
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Posted By: jeep 98 custom
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 1:50pm
Too bad paint loses velocity quickly, which is why paint doesn't fly 300 ft and takes over a second to get where it's going.
I'm gonna agree with some of the other people, look into a Borg. The
only upgrad nesscary is a clamping feecneck. Other than that, they are
pretty fast, very efficent, and they're light. And it won't let you
down.
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Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 2:54pm
Right thats why i did the test at 10bps and not 15bps to adjust for th velocity loss.
Also were not talking a 300ft were talking a max of 100ft
So lets do some new calculations how that.
Say were a back man shooting to the Opisit end of the feild for a WORST
case senerio. Were shooting our "Slow" 10 bps. Our velocity
is 300fps.
Now adjusting for velocity loss lets say it take a ball to travel 100
ft in one sec instead of the 300fps we started at ok.
So now our velocity AT it max range is down to 100fps still shoothing
10bps leaving a gap of the same 30ft beween balls we started with
(assuming all paint will loose velocity at the same speed). Means
that theres now a 3 MILISECOND gap between balls. Now light and
sound takes micro seconds to reach you and you take miliseconds to
react so this eqauls that there really is no need for more that 15bps.
------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX
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Posted By: ztbisme
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 8:08pm
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I couldn't quite tell from your post, are you being serious?
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Posted By: MurderersRow
Date Posted: 26 December 2004 at 9:29pm
I am a serious tourney player. I am on a amatuer team that plays all the major tourneys world cups psps so on and so forth. I had a mag in the past and I dont really like the mechanical guns ....thanks for everyones help.
------------- "Obsessed is just a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated" "Pain is temporary, pride is forever" "You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take" <- All I have to say is ACCURACY BY VOLUME!
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Posted By: Potato
Date Posted: 26 December 2004 at 10:17pm
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id have to say borg or a viking/excal
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Posted By: BuffaloSolda1
Date Posted: 27 December 2004 at 1:30am
Cyborg
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Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 30 December 2004 at 4:24am
Shocker or autococker with e2
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