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Topic: ugh...Jeez!
Posted By: The American
Subject: ugh...Jeez!
Date Posted: 24 December 2004 at 9:27pm

Ever sense I was young, I've always been fascinated with the military.  Now that I'm 17, I've got to start planning for the future right?  Well a few months ago I got a brochure in the mail from the Army, just like I'm sure all of you my age have.  So it says "For more information, return this card with your information on it, and we'll send you a free hat."  Well I guess I more of sent out for the hat, but I was still interested in the other stuff.

Sure enough a few weeks later I got that hat with the new brochure, I skimmed through it, and threw it away.  Today, the Phone rings and the caller ID says "US Government" so I was like "Oh this has to be for me"

I answer it and its some Sergeant Pain guy (jk).  "I see your interested in the army, may I ask you some questions to make sure you qualify?"  So he asked random things mainly about my health birthdate, weight...ect.  The whole time on the phone my moms like "No! stop telling him all that your not going into the army!"

So I get off the phone and my moms like chewing me out telling me that I can't join the army.  She told my family about it, and now I'm getting lectures about the army and dieing and stuff.

They just don't seem to get it that I'm not one of those kids that thinks "Army=guns=cool like video games"  I'm interested in the army because of what it has to offer, to serve my country, and just that its a good opportunity.

Theres not much anyone can do about me joining the army, and I have every intention to speak with a local recruiter, its just that I'm getting all this crap from my family, I understand their concern, but I'm not gonna back down especially from something I feel strongly about.

Any of you guys going through this?



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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 24 December 2004 at 9:42pm
I personally would never join the military.

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Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 24 December 2004 at 9:44pm
I have always been intrested in the military but I don't think Ill ever join

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Posted By: Kevin Z
Date Posted: 24 December 2004 at 9:46pm


My Mother cried for a week when I told her I was joining the Marines.
The Marines forced me to grow up, I got a great education, did some amazing things. I wouldn't trade that experience for anything.
Do what you think is right for you.

GySgt, United States Marine Corps (retired)

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Posted By: dtfastj
Date Posted: 24 December 2004 at 9:54pm

Well its nothing like cool video games but I will say the army is a lot of fun.  I haven't seen Iraq or anything like that but I will soon.  Basic training is a worth while experience that I think everyone should go thr.  If you dont mind going to Iraq and all that good stuff then join.  The army has a lot to offer.  Try not to worry your mother too much.  You won't realize how much family and friends mean to you until you cant speak with them for months or years at a time.  If its something you want to do then go for it.

David



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Posted By: TheSpookyKids87
Date Posted: 24 December 2004 at 9:55pm
I know what you mean, I've been intersted in the Army ever since I was little, then ROTC and still am intersted but I'm not allowed to talk to a recuriter. I'm 17 as well


Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 24 December 2004 at 9:57pm
Joining the Military is actually a good place to learn alot of things and its not mainly bout "how to kill the enemy" I have had friends who joined the Corps, Army, Navy and the Air Force, theyre alot more mature and educated then anyone who still struggling as a College student because the military and "my taxes" is paying fer yer education and if you think bout it...what you learn in the military can be used in civilian life as well and you can apply fer any Goverment position in the States.....I knew I shouldve joined the Corps when I had the chance...my life would be totally different compared to now.  

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 24 December 2004 at 9:57pm
I Can't join to to "Health Condition's are below Average"

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Posted By: tippy_182
Date Posted: 24 December 2004 at 9:59pm
Just whatever you do, double check EVERYTHING that recruiter says.....

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Posted By: dtfastj
Date Posted: 24 December 2004 at 10:00pm
Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

I Can't join to to "Health Condition's are below Average"
Do what alot of people do and dont tell them.  As long as you can do the sandpit and stand running you will be fine in the army.

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Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 24 December 2004 at 10:03pm
I would if i could but i also cant do to medical reasons .

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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 2:32am
err, yeah, sometimes when i wake up i can't feel my arm...or something like that...

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Posted By: Santa Chewp
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 2:33am
Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

I personally would never join the military.


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Posted By: pballa j.r.
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 2:42am
Personally I would never join the army.

Corps all the way!  No, I'm not in it yet, but im 16, and I will join soon after I turn 18, or 22, I havn't decided which yet.


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Posted By: Belt #2
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 2:42am

I got that same crap from my parents a year ago.

Since then, they've just given up on convincing me to do something else. (It used to be "no, you're not going to join the military, I'm not going to let you" but now it's more like: "Do what ever you want to do, it's your life") (Other than gunsmithing, firefighting, or doing something with music, I just can't see myself doing anything other than the military)

 

Oh well, I really have no useful information to add to this thread other than:

Do what ever you feel is right. Do something beacuse you love doing it, don't do it for the money (or anything along those lines).

 

(By the way, are you an only child?)



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Posted By: plasoccri
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 3:03am

A recruter tried to talk to me at school. Said he thought I would be good in the army. He doesn't know me very well. Unless the have an army that carries paintball guns, I'mnever joining. I have issues with the killing. And all the rules too. I like rules but military comes across as too strict for me.



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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 3:16am

Im getting that from my mom, shes warming up to it though. She realizes we have no money and my future isnt too bright without it.

Plus I could do what Ive always wanted, to fly helicopters.

Shwing.



Posted By: Badsmitty
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 7:45am

Good luck to you, whatever you decide.



Posted By: Juggernaut
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 7:56am

Wait till your 18 and move out...



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Posted By: The American
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 9:23am

Originally posted by Belt #2 Belt #2 wrote:

(By the way, are you an only child?)

With my mom I am, but with my dad I'm the 2nd youngest out of 5 kids.



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Posted By: Pump Scout
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 9:25am
I had a similar situation when I was 17. I'd always had an interest in the military, and spent a good deal of time researching the options. I had to get a parental waiver to enlist, since I was still under 18. My recruiter had said something after the fact that still sticks with me today: "If they had said no, you probably would have ended up joining anyway when you turned 18, but you'd have the resentment against your parents for delaying your decision."

It's probably true, too. What I didn't realize at 17 is that an 8-year enlistment term is a LONG time, and a lot changes in those 8 years. A Guard or Reserve enlistment will be 6 years of drills, followed by 2 years in the Inactive Ready Reserve. Even a basic 2 year active duty term will be followed by 6 years of IRR, and they can call you back in if they need you. At 17, I was unattached, living at home, without a clear direction for my future. At 19, I was a father. At 20, a husband. By the time my initial 6 were up, I had 3 kids, a career well on track, and the world situation had greatly changed.

The decision is ultimately YOURS. Not ours, not your recruiter's, not your parents', not your friends'. It's an honorable choice if you make it, but it's not right for everyone. If you DO decide to sign the papers, remember a couple things:
1-Keep a copy of EVERY piece of paper you ever sign.
2-Keep your LES forms, you may need them to prove your service time later (you'll understand if you join!).
3-Select a job that you'd be able to do if you're activated and sent to a combat zone.
4-Don't join "just for the college money".
5-Take every day in uniform as a learning experience.
6-Rely on your support networks when things aren't going well. Family, friends, squadmates, your battle buddy, your NCO's.

Hope that helps, and best of luck with your decision!

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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 9:54am
Originally posted by Belt #2 Belt #2 wrote:

I got that same crap from my parents a year ago.


Since then, they've just given up on convincing me to do something else. (It used to be "no, you're not going to join the military, I'm not going to let you" but now it's more like: "Do what ever you want to do, it's your life") (Other than gunsmithing, firefighting, or doing something with music, I just can't see myself doing anything other than the military)



Oh well, I really have no useful information to add to this thread other than:


Do what ever you feel is right. Do something beacuse you love doing it, don't do it for the money (or anything along those lines).



(By the way, are you an only child?)


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Posted By: borntopaint
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 11:49am
im not personnally but thas bc i dont really want to join the army but i commend your attitude its your life and if you plan it around what somebody else does or doesn't want you to do you most likely won't lead a happy life

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Posted By: impulse
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 11:58am
I say go for it. More people joining means less chance of draft.

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Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 12:24pm
I'm going to go in the Marines.  It's the only way that I can really be usefull to my country.

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Posted By: ThEeViLcHiCkEn
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 1:00pm
im and only child, i have glasses, i have a flat foot. So i do not have to join, i WILL NOT get drafted. If i could go i would. 

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Posted By: tippy_182
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 1:06pm
I've got the other problem, my dad kinda wants me to go.

He was in the air force for 9 years, so he always kind of wanted me to do the same.  I still think it would be cool to do, but I've got another year before I'm 18, so I still have time to think on it.


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Posted By: SuperXero
Date Posted: 25 December 2004 at 1:42pm
JTF-2 is the way I'm gonna go... Here comes 5 years of extensive training before I can even hope to pass the physical test...

PS: I'm not out of shape, but once you've met all the requirements to take the physical test, only 20% of people ever make it.

Edit: Yeah, I know you need prior military exp. I'm joining military co-op next year, staying in the reserve, at 18 im going to join the regs, then as soon as I think I'm ready, I'm going to try for the JTF-2.



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