Angel vs Boblong
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Forum Name: Which Gun is Best
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Topic: Angel vs Boblong
Posted By: xXxsniperxXx
Subject: Angel vs Boblong
Date Posted: 28 December 2004 at 12:08pm
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i think the boblong is better than angel any one else think so? ------------- soon to get An Autococker |
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Posted By: Gumbe02
Date Posted: 28 December 2004 at 12:15pm
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like i said befor please dont make stupid post, ------------- Mag shooter |
Posted By: xXxsniperxXx
Date Posted: 28 December 2004 at 12:19pm
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well can u help me out with my posts @ waynesbig@msn.com ------------- soon to get An Autococker |
Posted By: Fast Splat
Date Posted: 28 December 2004 at 3:11pm
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Easy... he's new. Welcome to the forum. It all depends on what you think. The timmys are great guns so are the angels. It all depends which models you are looking at. I would rather go with a timmy just because I like the look and the feel a lot better than the angels. ------------- **MY SETUP!** WGP 04 ProStock Autococker Worrblade Delrin Bolt **SOON TO COME** Nexus Ram & QEV's CP Shorty Reg CP On/Off & Rail System And some other cool stuff!! |
Gumbe02 wrote:Posted By: pballa818
Date Posted: 28 December 2004 at 3:38pm
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they are both good high end markers... and both are capable of shooting
insane BPS... so go with the one you feel more comfortable with.
Plus, there are like 20 differnt timmys, some are 1500 some are 750...
so it depends which timmy you are talking about and welcome to the forums ------------- 
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Posted By: xXxsniperxXx
Date Posted: 28 December 2004 at 4:28pm
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thx ;)
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Posted By: Gumbe02
Date Posted: 28 December 2004 at 4:57pm
as you can tell they are nicer then me  ------------- Mag shooter |
Posted By: paintball_playa
Date Posted: 28 December 2004 at 7:55pm
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hs new... and trying to make a quick name for himself, i've been here for way longer than him(hes been here for only 1 day) and still no one here knos me, just ignore him and he'll stop trying to be so popular and he'll make descent posts ------------- 2004 ICD BKO Dye Sticky 3s CP Regulator Vapor Valve Custom Cut Bolt Removed Trigger Spring CP Gauge 2k4 Chaos Board |
Posted By: MoNTYandTIMMoN
Date Posted: 28 December 2004 at 9:17pm
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I have a timmy and ive played with people with angels and such and in my opinion, any electronic marker over 800 perform very similar. I dont think my 800 dollar storm timmy performs any worse than a 1500 dollar angel force fly. If you ask me everything in paintball is a rip off and buying a gun over 1000 dollars isnt worth it when you can get similar quality for the same price. In conclusion ill just say intimidator because i own one. ------------- 
Do not tempt the lord! MoNTYtheLoRD |
Posted By: Stiffler
Date Posted: 28 December 2004 at 9:48pm
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if i had the money i would go for an angel over an timmy n/e day of the week! ------------- 
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Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 30 December 2004 at 4:22am
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Bob Long
I am not impressed with the new angels ------------- 
Props to my Dogg BLAND |
Posted By: reticule
Date Posted: 30 December 2004 at 2:16pm
I agree with the above, but I do think angels are better designed in terms of quality and maintenance. ------------- '...in order to use that particular insult, it really helps if you spell it properly. Nothing quite spells out "irony" as well as calling somebody "retarted."' -Clark Kent on Tippmann forumer |
Posted By: -PREDATOR-
Date Posted: 04 January 2005 at 7:41pm
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OMFG THIS SNIPER LOANER IS SUCH A SPED! Dude how old are you? 10? Maybe 11? Anyways I like timmy's more. ------------- WHOEVER *reb* IS WHY WOULD YOU THINK I HAVE AN OVERSIZED SIG!?!?!! YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!!THIS FORUM HAS THE WORST MODS EVER!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 05 January 2005 at 9:43am
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So do I. To me the new Timmys are lighter and more reliable then an Angel. ------------- 
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 05 January 2005 at 12:31pm
Prove it. |
Posted By: 98c Dude13
Date Posted: 05 January 2005 at 6:42pm
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Bob long wins ------------- TIPPMANN 98 CUSTOM 14" Progressive barrel 32* Black gel grips BT-16 Double trigger Pen Spring Mod X-core Expansion Chamber Vertical Adapter |
Posted By: gnarkill
Date Posted: 05 January 2005 at 6:59pm
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imo timmys > angels the trigger on timmys feel nice to me ------------- 
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 05 January 2005 at 7:48pm
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It doesn't take a genius to figure it out. The Alias and Empire Timmys are 1.4 the Angels are not. That makes the Timmy lighter then the Angel. Also the Timmys are very reliable AS LONG as they are costantly lubed. If they are not lubed before being used the person using the guns will have problems with bolt sticking and random air leaks because of blown o-rings. Angels are chronic problomatic guns. They are constantly breaking down and having tons of problems. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: reticule
Date Posted: 07 January 2005 at 1:28am
Sure, the 2k4 timmies are lighter than angels. BTW, the Alias is around that weight, but the Empire isn't even close. Perhaps you should hold one before you make false claims. And yes, timmies need lots of lubrication attention for the LPR and ram (i.e. every case according to the manual). I'm not sure what angels you've seen, but my angel hasn't experienced any problems, and lubrication maintenance isn't nearly as frequent as my ex-timmy. Perhaps your local angel owners are tools, like you. ------------- '...in order to use that particular insult, it really helps if you spell it properly. Nothing quite spells out "irony" as well as calling somebody "retarted."' -Clark Kent on Tippmann forumer |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 07 January 2005 at 3:22am
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well, ive shot an angel force fly and an alias and i have to say the angel was way better. It was lighter, had a great trigger, and was very rippable, i dont know, im just not a timmy guy...(i think jimmy is cooler...(south park joke)) ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 07 January 2005 at 10:21am
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Naa I just think that Angles are over priced POS and the lack of reliablitly proves it. Also the Empire might not be as light as a Alias but its not THAT much heavier so stop over exaggerating. If you were having problems with your Timmy then I can guarantee you were one of those morons who were to dumb to know how o work one. My guess is you screwed up the reg and the LPR didn't lube it enough and because of it you had bolt sticking and random air leaks. Timmys are increadibly reliable if you have the two brain cells to know how to use on..you obviously don't.
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Posted By: reticule
Date Posted: 07 January 2005 at 12:13pm
"If you were having problems..." you say. No, no problems experienced what so ever. But I loved having to deburr the Torpedo and LPR springs right after opening it from the box. Perhaps this is a feature of Bob Long's "quality". As even stated by you, you have to "constantly lube" a timmy:
Call me lazy but having to maintain a gun every case of paint isn't my idea of reliable, especially if that requires extra time spent in the staging area. Personally, I prefer to play than maintain, but perhaps you like to strut around the staging area with your Alias, impressing all the 12 year olds. ------------- '...in order to use that particular insult, it really helps if you spell it properly. Nothing quite spells out "irony" as well as calling somebody "retarted."' -Clark Kent on Tippmann forumer |
Posted By: gnarkill
Date Posted: 07 January 2005 at 3:56pm
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lazy ^ i cleaned and lubed my dm4 after every cased i used.. and will do so to my dm5 ... off topic but its quite funny.. how come "scareface" always gets in a hissy fit with other forumers. -------------
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i mean, its always him vs all (well except me), i dont think you guys like him that much Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 07 January 2005 at 10:48pm
Tsk tsk tsk... I suggest you gain something called "knowledge" before making stupid and uneducated responses. You receive a 0/10 for that troubled claim. I have owned a handful of Angels and I have never had a problem with them. Anything from the LED to the new 05 Speed I have owned and shot. So, next time you start to brew up an incredibly stupid and half-assed response to a true question, just stop. You have already gone too far.... |
Posted By: reticule
Date Posted: 08 January 2005 at 10:28am
With a dm4/5, this is unnecessary, but diligent. The dm4 fuse bolt requires lubrication every 3 cases; more frequently if it's cold. Regardless, as an owner and player, I take more comfort in knowing I am not restricted by manufacturer and design recommedations to be limited to having to maintain my equipment after every single case. As with the military, what has set apart great and mediocre (which is often phased out for better) ordnance is the frequency of the maintenance cycle. Why would any soldier want to clean their gun after only 2000 rounds during combat? ------------- '...in order to use that particular insult, it really helps if you spell it properly. Nothing quite spells out "irony" as well as calling somebody "retarted."' -Clark Kent on Tippmann forumer |
Posted By: -PREDATOR-
Date Posted: 08 January 2005 at 5:04pm
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A-Bomb = best marker on the damn planet end of discussion. ------------- WHOEVER *reb* IS WHY WOULD YOU THINK I HAVE AN OVERSIZED SIG!?!?!! YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!!THIS FORUM HAS THE WORST MODS EVER!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Random_Person
Date Posted: 08 January 2005 at 7:19pm
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I don't have a preference of the two, I would equally accept an alias or a fly. I am a fan of the Sonic Borg and Ego. ------------- http://profile.xfire.com/kentuckyfriedgangsta"> 
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Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 08 January 2005 at 7:49pm
Stop posting. Reticule and tgaffner have pretty much whipped everyone else in this thread. I've shot, but not owned, both angels (fly, speed, 05 speed) and timmys (dragon, 2k2) and the angels had a much nicer feel to them. |
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 08 January 2005 at 8:52pm
You have already proven your lack of knowledege when it comes to a Timmy. There is no real reason to deburr the springs in the Timmy at all. My guess is that you took the Timmy apart in an attempt to "make it perfect" and you didn't have the two brain cells needed to work on such an easy gun. Because you couldn't fix it you threw a tantrum and decided that all Timmys were a POS when Timmys are the easiest gun to work with. I seriously hope you don't have kids, the thought of more retards like you running around is just ..sick.
I really want to know what the hell your doing in this sport anyway..how did someone so increadibly dumb get this far in paintball without blowing themselves up. Every high-end guns from Timmys to Matrixs (as Gnar mentioned) has to be lubed alot and taken care of. I wouldn't call it laziness I would call it stupidity. Also you again prove the lack of knowledge you have with Timmys. Just like it is not necessary to shave the springs in a Timmy there is no reason to lube a Timmy after every game. I have gone all day with out lubing it and I have had zero problems at all. You do though have to lube it before you use it for the entire day. So I would suggest that you seriously get some knowledge before you talk because its obvious you have no idea what your talking about and every thing you say is stupid, biased, unknowedgeable, irralative BS. Just do everyone a favor and go kill yourself and while your at it take your biased moronic friend TG with you..you two can kill eachother and do the whole world a big favor. Also I don't fight with you Gnar because your realistic and PRETTY MUCH unbiased. You see the truth in guns and you have knowledge in what you talk about unlike some people. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: red_alert204
Date Posted: 08 January 2005 at 10:43pm
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angel are very reliable but every gun is going break down depenidng on
who owns it.. if you know your gun and how to maintain it wont break as
simple is that. The gun just doenst break the person isnt doing
something right........ so now its down to which one is easier to
maintain, now i dont know about timmys but i know its pretty damm easy
to lube my angel.......
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 08 January 2005 at 11:00pm
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Jesus scarface.... I swear to god you have to be the dumbest human i have come across, and there have been a lot of dumb ones.
You call reticule "biased" and say his points are "unknowedgeable" and "irralative," whatever the hell those 2 word mean... Open a dictonary occasionally, you MIGHT learn something if anything makes it through your 4" thick skull. On the subject of the post, Angels are awesome guns, the 05 speeds rip just as hard as any timmy and vice versa. You try to tell reticule his was wrong for deburring the springs that came in his gun, while you do not know what it means. Take the sprins out and look for rough edges, dont cut yourself now, im not sure if you are intelligent enough to be careful and not get hurt... I am astounded someone as dumb as you has made it to 19 is it? (Yeah right, if your actions reflect your age, you must be 10.) Telling people to go kill themselfs does nothing, but i will end this post telling you what i believe, and that is that you are not worth enough to be homeless, you could not be the scum of the earth because you are so far inferior to them. What i suggest is you go out on a boat, find an island with NO ONE on it, and live there forever so we dont have to deal with your moronic half assed posts. Have a good day, -Nick ------------- ///AMG What? |
Posted By: reticule
Date Posted: 08 January 2005 at 11:30pm
A LPR and Torpedo spring with
burrs can easily gouge the inner walls of the regulator, helping your
"perfect" timmy leak. When I spend over $1000, my expectation is
not being required to prep my timmy before airing up. What
you do with yours, I do not care, however my main intent is to educate
other forum users who are able to think for themselves. As I
stated before, my timmy shot fine, but I wasn't satisfied with the
quality. Some more fun things Timmy owners should expect: 1. 2k4/2k5 timmy owners need to remove 5 screws in order to replace
the 9V battery. This may not seem like a big deal, but when some
of these screws rely on 2mm clamshell frames, 3 screw threads per hole doesn't cut it. Oh, did I forget to mention the clamshell is stamped aluminum? 2. The barbs leading from the regulators are miniscule and easily
breakable. I wonder if that's the reason why they sell them in
packs of 10 or 20? 3. 3 LONG microlines route the air from the solenoid to the other
pneumatics, inside the gripframe. This is analogous to stuffing
wet spaghetti into Scarface22's skull - not very organized due to
the hot air inside, but doable.
If "every high end gun needs a lot of lube", wouldn't the point you're attempting to make is that diligent gun maintenance will mitigate problems and issues? If this is so, then why were your initial statements attacking angel design "flaws"? This contradiction leads me to believe you are grasping at thin air, and imposing false claims as fact. However, my knowledge is based on easily attainable manuals. For the purposes of educating you, and others, here are the manual links: http://www.wdp.tv/manuals/speed05manual-1-12-04.pdf - An Angel manual http://www.boblong.com/newsite/downloads/pdfs/intimidatormanual.pdf - 2k2 Timmy manual (2k4, 2k5 guns come with the 2k2 manual because Bob cares. Really, he does) http://www.thematrixcenter.com/files/DM4_Manual.pdf - DM4 Manual ------------- '...in order to use that particular insult, it really helps if you spell it properly. Nothing quite spells out "irony" as well as calling somebody "retarted."' -Clark Kent on Tippmann forumer |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 08 January 2005 at 11:33pm
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no wonder i never come in this forum...you all sound like 5 year olds arguing.
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Posted By: Bomber Brigade
Date Posted: 08 January 2005 at 11:40pm
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I'd take a timmy over an angel. I like bob long. And they are so light and so fast. Its like paintballs are gliding out of your hands awesome guns. ------------- 
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Posted By: P8ntblldude
Date Posted: 09 January 2005 at 1:11pm
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I love A bomb timmys and Russian Legion's but I really like the feel of angels. Those 90* frames are so comfy. ------------- *Team Compulsive* Sponsors *Won-Ago-Biking* *Curleys Waterfront* |
Posted By: P!NK panther
Date Posted: 09 January 2005 at 4:14pm
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well it all depends on reliablity. I've HEARD angels tend to have alot of problems. On the other hand, I've also HEARD that timmies can have problems without the constant attention to maintainence. good luck with ur fighting the krunkest forumer is out. ------------- http://www.theimagehosting.com"> 
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 10 January 2005 at 9:19am
I could really care less the Torpedo reg is good but its not perfect stock. Mosts people don't shave down the springs in the regs because they either get a new one or like me they just don'e care to make a big deal out of it. Hey Einstein guess what you remove FOUR screws to change the battery. I think I would know since I just changed the battery last week. You just keep making it more and more clear that you have no idea what your talking about when it comes to Timmys. Nick you have to be the most retarted fool to ever walk the face of this earth. Is your stupidity inherited or something because if it is I worry about you having kids. It would be a sick thought to have more unintelligent morons like you walking around this earth. If retarted retard like you just went away you would be doing everyone a favor. -------------
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Posted By: nick0291
Date Posted: 10 January 2005 at 4:58pm
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imho timmies > angels angels are always breakig down and you have to charge them in you car unless you buy a wall charnger fro like 40 bucks a pop and they are are always breakig down, and i saw a vid o this guy whu had to wait for his angel to go into live mode for 15 seconds imho timmies are less complex than an angel
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Posted By: nick0291
Date Posted: 10 January 2005 at 5:02pm
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Yes Rico... Kaboom. |
Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 10 January 2005 at 5:11pm
My stupidity actually IS inherited, my dad had an IQ of 3.2 and my moms was about 4.1. Its funny how you call me an idiot, but you are the one who cant string 2 sentances together... Also, please explain how one would "Walk around the earth" please. There are these rather large things called oceans which i cant walk across. Oh wait, i forgot, im Jesus so yes i can.  Scarface22 ------------- ///AMG What? |
Posted By: Bugsy
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 7:42pm
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No. Bob Long = Supped up Spyders. ------------- ! ! ! ! ! ! |
Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 8:46pm
First things first, when you try to burn someone, be smart! Make damn sure that there are NO mistakes, let it be grammatical or informational errors. Which, you have violated both. 1. "Angel" is a paintball Marker that is manufactured in Birmingham England. They are produced from WDP, that is owned by NPL. 2. Too many grammar mistakes for me to correct for you. Sham on you for being so incompitant. |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 9:31pm
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^ you spelt shame wrong...lol but with that aside...who gives a **edited** how good or bad our spelling is...as long as I can understand what the dudes tring to say and he/she/both isn't making a total ass out of himself (such as so bad that he needs to be kept in check) then I see no need to correct anyone. I have actually found that in arguments on this forum when people start to loose they play the, "Oh yeah, well you're a sucky speller!" card...which is really pathetic that you've been pwnd to the point where you have to rely on the other person's bad spelling to stay in the fight...just give up, man. Other than that though...I still like Angels more... ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: reticule
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 10:05pm
Sure, 4 screws if you don't have your grips on. Otherwise, you have to take one of the grips at least half way off, making that the 5th screw. Count them. 1-2-3-4-5. Very good, you're on your way to graduating preschool.
As for the comment against Nick, you should try rereading my
signature. If you still don't understand the irony, reread.
Then reread. And reread. Wash, rinse, repeat...------------- '...in order to use that particular insult, it really helps if you spell it properly. Nothing quite spells out "irony" as well as calling somebody "retarted."' -Clark Kent on Tippmann forumer |
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 12 January 2005 at 10:14am
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What are you talking about. Its six screws if you include the grip. 2 in the grip and 4 in the frame. You have no idea what your talking about, if anyone needs to learn how to count its you. You obvioulsy can't even count 4 or 6 screws go back to kindergarten. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 12 January 2005 at 5:08pm
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There are nipples in your sig. ------------- ///AMG What? |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 12 January 2005 at 5:57pm
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Who the hell cares how much effort it takes to replace a battery? Seriously, you people argue and flame over the stupidest things. ------------- 
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Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 12 January 2005 at 6:03pm
and their amazing ------------- 
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 12 January 2005 at 6:47pm
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The last time I checked I was not the one making the big deal over something so retarted. Its just to prove the fact that rectumcule has no idea what hes talking about when it comes to Timmys. He said about 5 different things and he still hasn't gotten it right yet. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 12 January 2005 at 6:48pm
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So who cares. You going to go cry to your mommy that a bad man on the internet posted a bad picture. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 12 January 2005 at 8:11pm
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 12 January 2005 at 8:15pm
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oo wow I spelled it wrong because I was typing fast........big woop de freaking do. Who cares about peoples spelling this isn't an English class..get over it. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: Waterhose05
Date Posted: 13 January 2005 at 7:39pm
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Bob Long = Excellent guns WDP = Excellent guns Bottom line comes down to preference. (Angels are a little better though And the boobs are very nice...
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