hop up,
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Topic: hop up,
Posted By: Blackbetty
Subject: hop up,
Date Posted: 05 January 2005 at 6:05pm
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i play mostly airsoft and i was wondering why paintball markers dont have the same built in hop up, that way u cold have the flatline and change ur barrel. you would also be able to adjust how much spin is on, too much and it curves up and too little and it just fires like a normal barrel. as i dont know how the hop up works, im guessing that it puts too much stress on the ball and would make it explode which is not an issue with a plastic 6mm bb.
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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 05 January 2005 at 6:20pm
| Im confused as to what hop up is, and how it applies to paintball. |
Posted By: Ariakon_Eagle
Date Posted: 05 January 2005 at 6:39pm
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There is a hop-up barrel. And I have some people that said they have matched the flatline in distance. The barrel is made by Warsensor and only Warsensor guns can use them because of the unique threading. http://www.warsensor.com - www.warsensor.com ------------- You call the Eagle, Eagle does the rest. |
Posted By: Bonestock98
Date Posted: 05 January 2005 at 6:51pm
It's the same thing. ------------- F.A.T.T.S.W.F.A.-Forumers Against Things That Start With "Forumers Against" |
Posted By: SpecklesJ24
Date Posted: 05 January 2005 at 6:54pm
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i personally would just stick with the flatline. flattys rock. ------------- Pain is weakness leaving the body. semper fi. Young Marines -Master Gunnery Sgt. |
Posted By: Ariakon_Eagle
Date Posted: 05 January 2005 at 7:18pm
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Bonestock98 wrote:Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 05 January 2005 at 8:13pm
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Ooooooh someone got pwnd! ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition! 
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Posted By: Blackbetty
Date Posted: 06 January 2005 at 9:20am
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so that would be easy enough to incoperate into the gun right so u culd change you barrel to ur liking and still get backspin? ------------- Buy a corvette and show the world that you know absolutely nothing about cars. The new VW convertible beatle..... now you can actaully hear people call u and idiot. |
Posted By: Stormcharger
Date Posted: 06 January 2005 at 12:24pm
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No. The receiver of the paintball gun would have to be redesigned. Most manufacturers use a similar design because it's cheap and easy to produce. As long as the most common products are selling, there will be no reason to make major changes in design. There are a few companies that have produced different designs such as Tipmann and ATS. The closest thing to what you are talking about is the ATS system, which doesn't rely on the barrel for stabilization. |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 06 January 2005 at 12:29pm
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There is no way to put the Hop Up barrel on another marker, even you tried puttin one fer another airsoft gun and if that was the case Armotech, Mauri, etc. wouldve stated it in their websites....now like what Ariakon Eagle has stated....the Hop Up "is only fer the Warsensors" ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 06 January 2005 at 2:11pm
How does an ATS gun even come close to what hes describing? ------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site 
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Posted By: Curlyman666
Date Posted: 08 January 2005 at 11:35pm
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it doesnt ------------- signature |
Posted By: Ariakon_Eagle
Date Posted: 09 January 2005 at 8:40pm
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Warsensors barrels dont have threading, it uses a quick disconect system. Similar to Ariakons Sim-5 barrel, but the Sim-5 barrel is thinner. You would need some sort of custom adapter in order to fit any other gun. Evil_Fingers is on the right track. ------------- You call the Eagle, Eagle does the rest. |
Posted By: Blackbetty
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 4:51am
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ok, as i dont fully understand the inards of a paintball gun, im getting
lost, why is three groves at 11 12 and 1 so hard, or even why isnt it just a standard feature in all barrels, i mean, everyone loves the flatline and this other brand hopup barel has claims of matching it, why can't it be incoperated into every barrel. good airsoft guns have all got it and it makes a massive difference as you all know, so if it is just three little grouves, then how come its so hard, ps, im not being critical, just constructive ------------- Buy a corvette and show the world that you know absolutely nothing about cars. The new VW convertible beatle..... now you can actaully hear people call u and idiot. |
Posted By: Blackbetty
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 4:53am
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and whats a receiver? ------------- Buy a corvette and show the world that you know absolutely nothing about cars. The new VW convertible beatle..... now you can actaully hear people call u and idiot. |
Posted By: Blackbetty
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 4:55am
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sorry to post yet again, but looking at the warsensor site, it appears that
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Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 12:55pm
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i dout a hop up system would really be anymore efective than an electric hopper |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 1:48pm
Do you have the slightest idea what the topic is about?...and if you dont I suggest you quit posting and quit tryin to get yer post count up....it will get you no where. ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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Posted By: Blackbetty
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 3:43pm
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ronflmfao,,, wtf???????
i bet he thought that a hop up system pushed air into the hopper and rumbled them around makeing the pbs "hop up" round the place, so anyways,,, whats the reciever??? becaus apparently that iw what you would have to redesign, this is an idea for a future gun, not a modification, ------------- Buy a corvette and show the world that you know absolutely nothing about cars. The new VW convertible beatle..... now you can actaully hear people call u and idiot. |
Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 4:44pm
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[QUOTE=Blackbetty]ronflmfao,,, wtf??????? that is what i thought and i wasnt really trying to reach any amount i had a half day of school and was bored |
Posted By: Blackbetty
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 5:07pm
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dont mean to be an ass,, its just i thought it was funny ------------- Buy a corvette and show the world that you know absolutely nothing about cars. The new VW convertible beatle..... now you can actaully hear people call u and idiot. |
Posted By: Spartan A-5
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 5:09pm
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how dumb are u ------------- A-5 Flatline swat force red dot tapco scope mount micro cap next: ex. chamber solid stock |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 5:13pm
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Hes dumb enough fer not comprehending on what the subject was about....stay in school lil man, you might learn something. ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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Posted By: Blackbetty
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 7:05pm
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so can someont please tell me why this can't be done, it would have to be
done in the a6. ------------- Buy a corvette and show the world that you know absolutely nothing about cars. The new VW convertible beatle..... now you can actaully hear people call u and idiot. |
Posted By: Ariakon_Eagle
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 7:29pm
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It can be done. Just not very likely. As I stated before. The Hop Up barrel for .68 cal paintball is only a Warsensor thing due to patents. You could make an adapter for it, but it would have to be custom made due to the fact that they take different threads, and an adapter hasnt been made yet. Plus this would be harder because the WS guns dont have threads. They have a quick change system. You slide the barrel in, then slip in the a little metal rod to hold the barrel in place. Its very similar to the SIM-5s quick change barrel system, but the barrels are not interchangable. I guess if you could mill into the inner part of the barrel and make it identical to the hop up barrel, but that would risk ruining the honing of the barrel. Therefore making it completely useless. ------------- You call the Eagle, Eagle does the rest. |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 8:12pm
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Be careful if you do decide to make an adapter fer the Hop Up barrel, you might get a not-so-friendly notification from Warsensor (if someone snitches) because you created a product fer one their patented products without permission....ya know similar to what Smart Parts did against all them other companies that were copyin their products and puttin their names on em. ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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Posted By: Ariakon_Eagle
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 8:47pm
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I think as long as he doesnt start producing this adpater and selling it, I think itl be fine. ------------- You call the Eagle, Eagle does the rest. |
Posted By: Blackbetty
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 9:32pm
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well the patent laws (correct me if im wrong) only have to be changed by
something riduculous like 10%. now im not sure how u mesure change in % but if you where to make the hopup system incoperated into the gun rather than as a barrel then that is more than a 10% change me thinx ------------- Buy a corvette and show the world that you know absolutely nothing about cars. The new VW convertible beatle..... now you can actaully hear people call u and idiot. |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 12 January 2005 at 11:35am
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I dont know man, but I wouldnt do it....why go through the hassle, unless you get permission from Warsensor to have it produced and you would get a small percentage of the sales on it. Thats the best way I can think of without getting sued. ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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Posted By: Blackbetty
Date Posted: 14 January 2005 at 1:36am
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but the thing is that warsensor don't do the airsoft guns, people like
mauri & tokio and smith and wesson do, and they have an adjustbale hop up, which im guessing doesnt work with groves. How do u adjust the groves? ill try fin out how the airsoft hop up works cuz i dont think that has anything to do with the barrel. ------------- Buy a corvette and show the world that you know absolutely nothing about cars. The new VW convertible beatle..... now you can actaully hear people call u and idiot. |
Posted By: Blackbetty
Date Posted: 14 January 2005 at 10:41pm
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ok,
http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload/product/img/G-10-031.jp g apparently that is what give the airsoft bbs there spin. i suppose if u make that bigger it would work for a paintball gun but i have no idea how it works so mabey not. ------------- Buy a corvette and show the world that you know absolutely nothing about cars. The new VW convertible beatle..... now you can actaully hear people call u and idiot. |
Posted By: TheButlerDid It
Date Posted: 15 January 2005 at 12:19pm
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From what I've heard, Scepter Combat Systems is going to use a similar barrel to get 10" grouping at 150 feet. This is only their claim (it was supposed to come out at Christmas, and my friend is pissed off) Just putting this in to show the difference from this to the flatline. Supposing they make the Cheyenne then us 98cs will be in for a treat in the range department. ------------- Tippmann 98 custom Flatline barrel Dye sticky grips Expansion chamber 32 degrees gas-thru stock and remote line. |
Posted By: Blackbetty
Date Posted: 15 January 2005 at 4:21pm
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that link was a direct picture and it didnt seem to work,
http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Category? menu1=8&menu2=92#15872 thats a long list of parts but it should jump down to a hop up system of an ak47, but is seems that the systems vary greatly depending on the model. ------------- Buy a corvette and show the world that you know absolutely nothing about cars. The new VW convertible beatle..... now you can actaully hear people call u and idiot. |