i thought of a new design for paintball gun, and in process of building it, but got stuck with the couple things, like where to get custom made parts, from plastic and aluminium or steel. So TIPPMAN guys could you help me out. Cause right now i am building that gun from anything that i can get from home depot. Any suggestions. i will go draw a sketch in photoshop, will post it later. Thank you.

thats how its gonna look : )

so i need custom tubing : ) may be people from tippman wanna help : )

its all in there thats how the gun would look, no over head feeder : ) will fit 160-180 balls, fast exchangeable cartridges reade for your pouchbag. : )

Do you even know how the internals are going to work. Or are you using a base gun and building from it?

Oh and make sure you use pressure rated items. I've seen a guy get cut up by blown apart tubing.

How is your trigger hand going to hold the marker, the gas is in the way?

it just a basic sketch i ve created to show its basic look. bullets will load from that over sized looking silenser : ) which is also a switchable cartridge and a berral (, gun will also be able too shoot basically even if you will hold it upside down, baiscaly at any angle it will shoot. there is a feeder which is intergrated in to the gun when you connect cartridge, it will lock in with the feeder and will align specificaly to start sending balls to the feeder. everything else is normal paint ball gun, i have portoripe of a cartridge and feeder, its time to connect them together. may be in month i will be done with them, but it will be only none shooting prototype, it will only feed the balls to the berrel. Basicaly i want to replace that part when you have to open up the loader and take your tube and let em roll in there, by just switching tubes : ) it will be biger tubes but, you just snap off empty cartridge, and snap on a full one.

i do know how they gonna work, and i am using a base gun just will modify it so it fits with my idea

i like the idea for the hopper and stuff but maybe u'd be better off trying to sell the idea to 1 of the paintball companies(Kingman,Tippmann,viewloader).

just to build the body of it ud need a lathe,milling mashine,metal stamper,other huge expensive mashines. to make the hopper thing ud need a bbender welder, and all of the other machines i listed.

but sweet idea

to: lester98c
see i dont want to just sell my idea, i want to build it my self, and i want to modify it, come up with new and beter models and i got so many other ideas for paint ball: new guns, new concepts which never been on the market. I dont want some other guys built it with out me building it with them. I want to be there physicaly, use my hand be part of it : )

Actually i am working on the illustration of the gun right now (not 10 minute one, but a good one), so i will post it soon, so you can see it. another things when i am done, i will go to AIRGUN DESIGNS they are located just 5 minutes away from my work. Plus its not just an idea i know how everything will work, how each part will comunicate with another, plus i know how it looks and i know all the demenstions, after i am done with illustration i will focus on AutoCad drawing, will put all the skatches and drafting on paper in real digital model model with final result of 3d : ). Tomorrow is the big day, illustration (Photoshop, Illustrator) will be done and AIRGUN DESIGNS here i come.

Mmmm, I like seeing dreams shattered.

Plus airgun designs wont take it, because they have stayd with the same basic design for the past... ever.

Now in order for outside designer to get their gun made. They have to start thier own company. I think you dont realize how expensive it is to research, design, build, test, manufacture, and market these things.

i do, i work in such enviroment, if not AirDesign some other company will, if none of paintball companies will back me up, my company will : )

and if you never try, nothing will ever happen by it self, look my parents wanted me to be A+ student ( i was C+ ), instead i was A++ in web development, I would spend days in front of my computer web developing and graphic designing, only rest was in school where i ve slept, and BMX i would of rode at night, taking on the streets of Chicago : ), in my junior year i got job offer for full time job in web team of company i work at now. so yeah

its not original at all except for that loading system thats not gunna work.  and where are you gunna put your hand to hold it?  the tank is blocking the back handle and if you take the tank off the paintballs in the front will weigh your gun down and decrease accuracy. 

just buy an a-5

that gun is pretty ugly

hahahahaha : ) the only thing i can say.

Stza Crack
how do you know it will not work, have you tried it? How can you say it, you dont have a clue how it works. Plus i know it will work because i have prototype of smaller version which perfectly works. it doesnt shoot yet but feeds the balls right in to the barrel and fits 192 balls in there. eat this.

A5Gunner
every one judges for them selves, you dont like it, all fine with me, its even beter cause now get to ask you what so uggly about it?

keep those opinions coming : )

I am working on it so it will be changing : )

Enos Shenk wrote: You realize the q-loader is patented correct? If that thing uses any sort of helical spring-loaded feed, its probably violating a patent.

i absolutely do : )

good point will fix : )

time to go to sleep, i will put final touches tomorrow

 One more thing. how do you cock that monster??????

                      these are neat... http://img103.exs.cx/img103/8203/specprojectsart9jj.jpg - http://img103.exs.cx/img103/8203/specprojectsart9jj.jpg

thanks for link Spot1st

the answer is the light blue part is actually biger in size you dont see the rest because the grip thing covers it : ) it is a detachable peice (plus it has legs for support like in the sniper rifle i havet drew them yet) it covers couple of parts. i still need to finish up the illustration so i am gonna go do that. Illustration will update as soon as i upload new version to my server.

I like your design but you should have a 16" barrel and a huge, awesome banana clip. That would be AWESOME!!!

brihard wrote: Heavy is relative. Work out.

Heavy is a factor when most smaller kids play woodsball and not speedball. Heavy is a factor when you have a 24 hour senerio and you have to lug the thing up hills and whatever else.

Heavy is a factor.

well the part of the gun wth out cartridge will weight like any normal gun. cartridge will be made out of plastic ( it may be will weight 2 time more may be 3 time more that hoper loaded wih balls). maybe it will have aluminium casting so it matches the gun and makes cartridge even stronger we will see. about balls in the cartridge, they will not just fall under gravity, if that would be so, there would be no point of building this gun. system is =>>on demend feading<<=. like in real guns.

oh yeah and it will be all mechanical no electrical parts. the cartridge is not spring loaded, it will only work if you connect it to the gun.

oh yeah about berral, its intigrated with cartridge, i will have to play with plastics a bit : )

hmm what so bad about this grip, same thing?

Proffesional sniper rifle, in present used by special forces of Russia in chechnya.

and just so that we have the illustration on the third page : )

looks like the gun in sgt. watson's sig.

What do you mean dmp4892?

Dude I love the idea. I'm a big supporter of the ideas that seem obscure. After all, Albert Einstein said "If at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it."

To help you out with your project, try going to this website here: http://www.emachineshop.com - www.emachineshop.com .

This site lets you input your custom designs into a free CAD program they give you. From there you can choose materials, tolerances, etc. for your product, submit it to them, and they will make the part for you. This might save you some time.

I have contributed to a friend of mine's project when he was building a custom sniper rifle. Unfortunately, he was shipped out to Iraq before he could finish it. Hopefully he will be able to come home and complete the project. Anyway, if you need any help, I would be happy to assist. Just send me an email at mailto:junotrevan@houston.rr.com - junotrevan@houston.rr.com or IM me on Aim at JunoTrevan.

Good luck on this. Take it easy.

Monk wrote: brihard wrote: Heavy is relative. Work out. Heavy is a factor when most smaller kids play woodsball and not speedball. Heavy is a factor when you have a 24 hour senerio and you have to lug the thing up hills and whatever else. Heavy is a factor.

If I can carry a light machinegun on a week long field exercise, then the average paintball player can certainly carry an extra pound or two of marker. 5.56 ammo is a lot heavier than paintballs. Keep in mind, I weigh about 155lbs, and I'm not particularly strong by any means.

If you're playing scenarios that much, you should get a tactical patrol sling of some kind, so you can sling your marker while still having it instantly accessible for combat. I use that system on my 98C.

I'm sorry, but you are not going to be able to justify to me why an extra pound or two of weight in a marker should make a real difference, unless you're talking about a pistol.

Again, 'heavy' is relative.

I'm going to put this simply. Smart Parts can kiss my shiny metal ass. Nothing has been posted about how exactly the design works, and it even took me quite awhile before I understood it. And that was WITH diagrams. SP will NOT be able to get enough information from here to do anything with it. They need to stop suing anyway. And if any of them EVER happen to read this, I hope you take that to heart.

I was actually just looking at the Cyclone feed. While the principle is similar, it's method of acomplishing the task is totally different.

For future reference for all ya'll though, here's some advise for you when you start thinking about inventing something. DON'T. You would not BELIEVE the pain in the rear it is trying to make sure you arn't going to be stepping on anyone's patents that already are out there. And you find the strangest stuff too that you wouldn't ever think of. Take this for example: You know the Happy Birthday song that they sing to you on your birthday when you tell them no but they want to embaress you anyway? Well anytime they play that on TV or the radio, Paul McCartney gets a little richer off of a royalty. Consider that haha.

same stuff that would happen with another gun, u clean it with squidgy.

maybe include a precharge tank on the inside that was filled by the main tank but not used unless the main ran out.  you could have a "purge" valce to clean the barrel out by shooting a concentrated stream of co2 down the barrel.  i dont know if it qwould work, but it would be a revolution in barrel cleaning. 

i dont know if you know anything about how the mechanical internals and valves will work together, but it doesnt matter, youve got your mind set to do it.  you would be amazed how much you can learn on a forum even if you know nothing to begin with. 

what paintball gun do you currently own?  if you own one, take it apart and see what makes it tick, and youll get a lot more great ideas.  im looking forward to seeing a product from you, and i know that i would buy it, and provide feedback and test it to every extent.  if youre company is willing to fund you like you said they were, then you already have a huge advantage.  if you can afford to fork over the big $$$, i would get a protoype machined and sent to yourself once you think you know EXACTLY how its going to work.

dont give up, and good luck!

so far time of 3 people, and we got simpler prototypes of mechanisms, and about couple of hundred dollars : ) we are keep on building simpler prototypes to prove all the theyries we got in our minds as ideas. we need to finish up couple of things maybe soon will have some presintations to get some investment going we will see.

I think i will have to start forum at my server soon : )

yeah about that ammo in the stock, its a good idea but gun is based on the classic paintball design the internals, with some modifications to fit, for low pressure and many other etc. so it is good idea and i might implement it to something like p 990 looking gun but first this one : ) the whole idea is that it acts like a real gun, it takes bullet out of the clip and places it in the barrel, if that would be another way i would have to cover big space between the cartridge and the barrel plus i dont know if i could make it shoot at any angle then.

someone made this fourm once before in like january or somthing but I think it is a senerio ballers dream gun