The gun or the player
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Topic: The gun or the player
Posted By: weltsare4wimps
Subject: The gun or the player
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 1:10pm
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I notice that alot of people say it is the player not the gun, but from experience i have seen the people who comment on that either arent playing or own a really nice gun. I wanted to see what everyone else thinks |
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 1:14pm
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i own some "nice" guns and ive played with plenty of high end guns... a good player can win with any gun but the high end guns make it alot easyer
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Posted By: Robotech
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 1:26pm
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A great player with a poor marker will beat, 100% of the time, a poor player with a great marker. High end markers will help your game if you know what you are supposed to be doing, but it still comes down to the skill of the player and luck. I'd guess that for 85% of us our marker is far more capable of doing what it is supposed to do than we are capable of doing what we are supposed to do. ------------- New to the sport? http://www.b17queenofthesky.com/paintball/index.html"> 
Proud owner of a WS-66 A-5 ACP |
Posted By: Dizzee
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 1:30pm
Whatever they said! ------------- 
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Robotech wrote:Posted By: cripple
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 2:16pm
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ive bet a kid i could bet him with a talon when he had a some spider ------------- 
**Sig was too big** **Sig edited for language** ~Reb |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 2:33pm
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You might have the most perfectly balanced, most finely crafted hammer on the planet, but if you have no skill with driving nails you're still going to hit yourself in the thumb. It does matter how good your tools are, but you have to have the skill to best make use of those tools or you're not getting all you can out of them.
A poor carpenter with great tools is not as good as a great carpenter with poorer tools. The great carpenter will make due and his skill will make up the lack and work around some of the deficiency of the poor tools. ------------- 
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Posted By: Gotpaint92
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 2:34pm
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any skilled player with a pump can usually beat a newbie with a matrix or an angle. ------------- Be care full! Sigs earn strikes |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 2:42pm
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^^^ i played in a 3 man rookie turney and started late. we had to play 4 games in a row and on the 3rd game we played the current 1st place team that maxed all there games we maxed um in 32secs with 2 tippmanns and a spyder clone. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: Civeta Dei
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 2:56pm
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80-85% skill. 20-15% marker.
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 2:59pm
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It is the persons skill over the gun, but dont even try to say that the gun plays no role at all. If you take 2 players with equal skill, the one with the better (not always most expensive, just better) gun is going to win. ------------- 
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Posted By: P!NK panther
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 3:12pm
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skillz ------------- http://www.theimagehosting.com"> 
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Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 3:45pm
very well put ------------- 
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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 4:05pm
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this topic has been posted many times before but still its 85% skill, 10% gun, 5% luck |
Posted By: ThEeViLcHiCkEn
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 5:13pm
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30%skill, 50%gun, 15%luck, 5%paint
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Posted By: Gotpaint92
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 5:41pm
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Similar thing at the Siege (where i paintball). it was 7 on 7. 5 people on my team either had a tippmann, or a pos walmart gun. the game lasted about 20 seconds. Edit: non of the guys on my team got hit
------------- Be care full! Sigs earn strikes |
Posted By: Bonestock98 II
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 5:44pm
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exactally. ------------- im small |
Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 5:51pm
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Both
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Props to my Dogg BLAND |
Posted By: Robotech
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 6:00pm
The only thing I'd add to this is if you have two players of equal skill, then luck, who has the better plan, and who makes the fewest mistakes also play into the outcome. Yes the marker will make a bit of a difference, but it is an exponential difference meaning that the less skilled the players are the less of a difference it makes. Example, take two top paintball players...pros...and put them out there with two differnt markers...the one who has the better marker will GENERALLY come out ahead. (You must always factor luck...) Now take two realatively new players and do the same thing. I think you'll find that because they don't know how to use the markers at their disposal as well as the pros that the outcome will be more 50-50 due to the marker difference. ------------- New to the sport? http://www.b17queenofthesky.com/paintball/index.html">
Proud owner of a WS-66 A-5 ACP |
Posted By: Army0044
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 6:06pm
| Yea alot of it is the player but when it comes down to the game a marker will help....alot! |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 6:07pm
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100% Cedric.
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Posted By: Badonka
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 6:37pm
Something tells me you're defending your little piece of **edited** gun... ------------- Who happens to still be too immature to post on this forum. Good Bye. |
Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 6:41pm
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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 11 January 2005 at 7:00pm
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The player, but the gun helps. ------------- 
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