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Topic: New marker ????? Tippmann
Posted By: WI-navy420
Subject: New marker ????? Tippmann
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 5:51am
Does anybody know if Tippmann plans on making a new marker.  They are really starting to fall off.  The A-5 just can't keep up with the demand anymore.  It came out JANUARY 1st, 2002.  That is over 3 years ago.  They are really falling behind times.  Every where I go online people are selling or just hanging them up.  Look at Bob Long.  New markers every year.  You don't see ANY pro teams using Tippmanns beside there own team which, by the way, sucks.  I love Tippmanns, I would always brag them up but now I am having trouble coming up with things.  People say they are tough, so are all these other markers.  Do you really buy a marker too pick it up and through it as hard as you can at the ground.  NO!!!!!!  The Dye DM5, the Shocker and the Timmys can take accidenty drops just as much as a Tippmann and look sweeter.  Tippmann needs to get colors too.  I know I am rambling but I am losing it.  I am about to say but a Smart Parts.



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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 7:41am
Thanks alot.  You've just invited the high end bashers.   Good job.


Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 8:14am
the search button is your friend and only post 1 topic about this

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Posted By: ultimatetrooper
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 8:18am
Bob Long has a new design and color scheme on the same marker!

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Posted By: PaintbalSk8r14
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 8:26am
dude, look what i said in ure poll cause im to lazy to write it again.

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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 8:56am

A few points.

  • Tippmann makes a solid product, selling to a specific market. They dont need to come out with a new gun every year just so they can flood the market
  • Yes, It will always look like people are 'Hanging Up' Tippmanns, because they are often the first gun (other than Brass Eagle) that people get. People buy better guns and move on.
  • Bob Long tosses a new color and different milling on a gun and calls it new, and you impressed by it?
  • Pros dont use Tippmanns because Tippmann Inc. has not payed for them to do so. Want to know why certian 'pro' teams use certian guns? The companys give them the guns for free so consumers see them using the product. Kingman gives (Well I think they still do) Bad Company equiptment, Bad Company plays (Once again, I think they still do) with Spyders.
  • You can say what you want, Tippmann will win an endurance test over any other gun 100-1. No, You dont through your gun down as hard as you can, but the fact that CAN and it will still work great is what your looking for.
  • Tippmann does not need colors. Why do you need colors? Maybe its just me, but I think flat-black will shoot people just as effective as baby-puke swirl.


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Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 9:08am
Has it really been 3 years? Wow. For a company to not release something new in that time period is kinnda...strange accually. I hope their making something good though, i would like to see tippmann make another great marker.

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Posted By: WI-navy420
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 10:17am

Hey don't get me wrong, color does not make it shoot any different.  It is the same reason they have different color cars, houses, clothes.  It makes for a better style to match what you like.  FLat black is that important.  I am in the military and piantball camo is worth your life like in Irag where you don't want a purple M4.  Color choice would be nice, you could keep your black and many others would chose there favorite color or black if they like.  You are making a bold statment.  You are talking for everyone then when you say that about black.  So do you think if they had other colors they would NOT sell.  No, I have seen a Dye DM4 dropped and picked up and shoot faster that the cyclone could dream of.  I am writing this because Tippmann is my favortie brand, I alwaqys get crap but this year I need to keep up with things.  The shocker last year was devasting to play agisnt and I can hold my own.  Rate of fire does help in this day and age.  Point of the day, Tippmann needs a new marker.  Also, Tippmann pays for Tippmann Effect to plat and they suck really bad.  The truth hurts.



Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 10:17am
Originally posted by MetallicaESPa5 MetallicaESPa5 wrote:

Has it really been 3 years? Wow. For a company to not release something new in that time period is kinnda...strange accually. I hope their making something good though, i would like to see tippmann make another great marker.

x2


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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 10:38am
Personally, I don't even keep up with any tourney ball whatsoever. But as for the A5, it still has it's benefits.

Let's see, like you said, it's over 3 years old, and it STILL has the best loader on the market built into the gun! Ever seen another hopper run on air? How much is a 15bps+ loader nowadays? Well, whatever it costs to the normal person, it costs nothing to the guy that just bought an A5!

Basically, the A5 costs about $230 last time I checked. It comes with an awesome loader that requires no batteries....that's worth at least $80 in todays paintball world.

If you want to play tourney with an A5, you can buy an E-Grip. If you want to play rec, you can buy an RT. Either way you are actually ripping over 15 balls per second for not much more than $300. There's really no new gun that can actually shoot as fast as an A5 in the same price range.

To meet the A5's performance with another gun, it would cost alot more money.

And to still be able to say that about a 3 year old gun when, like you say, people like Bob Long come out with a new $1000 every other month, is a feat in itself.

Speedball or especially woods, the A5 is pretty much still the unbeatable price/performance ratio champ.

And not to mention, it looks a lot more realistic than most other production paintguns out there....perfect for a mil-sim mock-up.

I guess what it comes down to is that most Tippmann users go by the motto,"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

And when you can get over 17bps with a gun that costs well under $300, all without batteries, you can pretty much rest assured that nothing is broken.

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Posted By: ThEeViLcHiCkEn
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 11:30am
^^^ 17BPS?????? WTF?????? I dont think so, the a5 wont even do 9. MAYBE 13 with e-grip. Thats with full auto which is illegal in tournys. I had an a5, big and bulky, you needed to have a tool box on you to take it apart. GO look on pbnation they are dirt cheap. There used, no one wants them, i mean wow they can be dropped. WOW any marker can be droped, that is all tippmann has for the outdated piece. The cyclone feed is such a gas hog, let alone with the R/T. Tippmanns suck, id rather go buy a spyder then a tippmann, I hated mine. I will never go back. People with a-5s get made fun of, really they do.

and for the guy who thought that id be cool with 3 posts to make a 2nd post, get over it. The guy is gunna suck anyways, and in another 3 years you'll be complaning about the same thing.
LET IT GO.


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Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 11:37am
Originally posted by ThEeViLcHiCkEn ThEeViLcHiCkEn wrote:

^^^ 17BPS?????? WTF?????? I dont think so, the a5 wont even do 9. MAYBE 13 with e-grip. If by 13 you mean 15. Thats with full auto which is illegal in tournys. I had an a5, big and bulky, you needed to have a tool box on you to take it apart. A-5 needs no tools to take apart, genius. GO look on pbnation they are dirt cheap. There used, no one wants them, i mean wow they can be dropped. WOW any marker can be droped, that is all tippmann has for the outdated piece. The cyclone feed is such a gas hog, let alone with the R/T. They use excess blowback gas, you know nothing. Tippmanns suck, id rather go buy a spyder then a tippmann, I hated mine. I will never go back. People with a-5s get made fun of, really they do. I've never been made fun of for havign an A-5. Maybe you're just a tool.

and for the guy who thought that id be cool with 3 posts to make a 2nd post, get over it. The guy is gunna suck anyways, and in another 3 years you'll be complaning about the same thing.
LET IT GO. How about we let you go...jump off a cliff?


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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 11:44am
Originally posted by ThEeViLcHiCkEn ThEeViLcHiCkEn wrote:

^^^ 17BPS?????? WTF?????? I dont think so, the a5 wont even do 9. MAYBE 13 with e-grip. Thats with full auto which is illegal in tournys. I had an a5, big and bulky, you needed to have a tool box on you to take it apart. GO look on pbnation they are dirt cheap. There used, no one wants them, i mean wow they can be dropped. WOW any marker can be droped, that is all tippmann has for the outdated piece. The cyclone feed is such a gas hog, let alone with the R/T. Tippmanns suck, id rather go buy a spyder then a tippmann, I hated mine. I will never go back. People with a-5s get made fun of, really they do.

and for the guy who thought that id be cool with 3 posts to make a 2nd post, get over it. The guy is gunna suck anyways, and in another 3 years you'll be complaning about the same thing.
LET IT GO.


Why are you on the tippmann forum so much? You weirdo.


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Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 12:49pm
I think they could use a new gun but i dont want to see yet another electro.

Im a woodsballer primarily and speedballer in the off season.

Theirs lots out there for speed ballers and the chance of tippmann getting a large slice of that market is slim at best.  But they already OWN the woodsball market and need to offer newer better faster marker for this. 




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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 1:03pm
I'm Sad to inform you but... umm...  With Summit as C&C  I'm thinking there ganna want "EVERYONE" To know that Tippmann is not just the Most duriable company around but one of the fastest...  Summits ganna want to smear Tippmanns NEW LOGO  Around like a Monkey does with Crap....  When the New Tippmann is realesed(sp) you guys wont be impressed some of the "old Technology"  will still be there but... <sigh> There ganna mix it with ALOT of new...   I'm unclear if it Has Bounce Beam or Break Beam... (dont ask)  But Tippmanns Tech's are working on a New System of Gas Usage... (dont spam me about how it works) It does somthing with the Bolt and it sets it Back to The Correct Spot so it will be impossible to chop, at any BPS Rate...


Posted By: AdmiralSenn
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 1:14pm
Think about it. The model 98 lasted for two years until the custom came out to allow more upgrades. Then in '02 the A-5 came out. So you have one gun that essentially lasted for four years with only a slight change in the body to allow for more options, and another one that's been out for three years.

Personally I think we won't see another gun until '06, but possibly this year if they're already working on it. I just hope it's not some retarded flashy electro.

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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 5:56pm
Originally posted by ThEeViLcHiCkEn ThEeViLcHiCkEn wrote:

^^^ 17BPS?????? WTF?????? I dont think so, the a5 wont even do 9. MAYBE
13 with e-grip. Thats with full auto which is illegal in tournys. I had
an a5, big and bulky, you needed to have a tool box on you to take it
apart. GO look on pbnation they are dirt cheap. There used, no one
wants them, i mean wow they can be dropped. WOW any marker can be
droped, that is all tippmann has for the outdated piece. The cyclone
feed is such a gas hog, let alone with the R/T. Tippmanns suck, id
rather go buy a spyder then a tippmann, I hated mine. I will never go
back. People with a-5s get made fun of, really they do.

and for the guy who thought that id be cool with 3 posts to make a 2nd
post, get over it. The guy is gunna suck anyways, and in another 3
years you'll be complaning about the same thing.
LET IT GO.



Please allow me to own you with one point: You say you owned an A5, yet you also say that,"you needed to have a tool box on you to take it apart."

If you ACTUALLY owned an A5 at one point in your life(which you OBVIOUSLY are not cool enough to do), you would know that you need only one allen wrench to take it down to get at the internals.

And I can personally say I own an A5RT and it gets virtually the same gas efficiency as my M98C without RT.....please leave these forums now. You have no useful knowledge.


Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 6:26pm
One thing I just thought of, and thought I'd post it here.

Ever notice how Tippmann bashers typically have no facts?

I swear, before I got my first paintgun I read all I could on all the different guns. From what people said, the only real disadvantages of the Tippmann were low rate of fire, heavy, and long.

When I saw my first Spyder next to my M98C, I was surprised that the Spyder was really no more than 2" shorter than the M98C. It also felt heavier and less balanced.

Then I shot both guns, and I liked the trigger on the M98C a lot more....I could easily shoot faster with the Tippmann.

Then I got an A5 w/RT, and I realized just how fast an "entry-level" paintgun can shoot!

If you don't think the A5RT can hit 17bps, you're wrong.


Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 6:31pm
Right on the money, Zesty.

People just want to trash talk, and they could care less if they have facts to back them up or not.


Posted By: E-98
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 6:34pm

I'm assuming this navy guy is an officer...

edit:

Hey Hway....   I haven't seen you around for some time...



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Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 6:35pm
Originally posted by ThEeViLcHiCkEn ThEeViLcHiCkEn wrote:

^^^ 17BPS?????? WTF?????? I dont think so, the a5 wont even do 9. MAYBE 13 with e-grip. Thats with full auto which is illegal in tournys. I had an a5, big and bulky, you needed to have a tool box on you to take it apart.


You can shoot faster with semi than with it on full auto. The a5 has pull pins, you don't need a tool box to take it apart, except for about 2 allen wrenches that you need.

You obviously have no idea what your talking about. Go learn somethign in the New Player Forum. Newb.


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Posted By: WI-navy420
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 7:18pm
I think they should have a new marker with a regualur feed.  I would rather spend antoher $120 on the Halo B which is the best loader out there.  The cyclone is okay but now that I am out of school and have way more money, it justs doesn't seem tht cool anymore.  It was an orignal idea though.  I just wish they would amke a stock electro.  With all theses people who don't want a marker, shoudl they never make another one.  10 years form now are you still going to use your A-5.  Woodsball is fun but slow.  Hyberball is just so fast paced and quick thinking. 


Posted By: slacker guy
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 10:18pm
i bet tippmann will come out with an amazing gun without
telling any1 in advance


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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 10:21pm
Originally posted by slacker guy slacker guy wrote:

i bet tippmann will come out with an amazing gun without
telling any1 in advance


Exactly.

More Hype...   Hype = Cash   

Thats what all summit wants now is  $$$$$$$


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Posted By: Super NEWB
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 10:37pm
Just a point to make here: woodsballers outnumber speedballer by a huge amount. most woodballers start off or have at some point used a tippmann. Tippmann probably makes more money selling 98's in a year then all of the intimidators. Why change what works anyway? essentially all lower end blowbacks, cocker, timmy's etc. are the same as they were 5 years ago just made with better components and flashier milling. Colorwise i dont really think a tippmann looks right in anything but black. If i want a better gun ill just buy one instead of waiting for tippmann to release some super speedball gun which i seriously doubt will happen when they've basically monopolized woodsball.

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Posted By: mastersniper
Date Posted: 16 January 2005 at 11:43pm
i love my a5 and wouldnt trade it for the world.......i play all woodsball and have always made spyder owners cower when i crank up the F/A on the field.....

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Posted By: WI-navy420
Date Posted: 17 January 2005 at 3:17am
What if they never come out with a new marker again.  Then what???


Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 17 January 2005 at 3:23am
Originally posted by WI-navy420 WI-navy420 wrote:

What if they never come out with a new marker again.  Then what???


People will continue to buy 98 customs, a-5s, and carbines.


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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 17 January 2005 at 3:46am

^exactly

 



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Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 17 January 2005 at 3:48am
Originally posted by rockerdoode rockerdoode wrote:

^exactly

 



Who can disagree?  They are the most durable and reliable markers out there.  And the perfect markers for newcomers.


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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 17 January 2005 at 10:37am
Originally posted by WI-navy420 WI-navy420 wrote:

What if they never come out with a new marker again.  Then what???
Is it really that hard for you to fathom the possibilities? You either: (1) Never buy a paintgun again, (2)Buy some more of the older Tippmanns, or (3)buy some other paintgun that you like and can afford.


Jesus dude, for being in the military you really are lacking on critical thinking skills.

If you don't like the Cyclone, don't get the A5. It's the heart and sole of the gun. When a Halo B doesn't weigh close to 2 pounds, doesn't make any noise, doesn't require batteries, and doesn't cost the price of a whole other gun...then MAYBE I'd think about getting one.

But otherwise, if the Cyclone keeps up with all these RT's going 15+bps and these E-Grips hitting 15bps all day without a hitch, why would you want to waste money to get no useful performance increase and just add unreliable non-Tippmann parts to your A5?



Posted By: WI-navy420
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 5:59am
I don't mind anything they got but I want them to stay around.  People will only buy A-5 for so many years.  They really need to start thinking about a new marker and also a Halo B is not that loud.  You can't hear it over the maker.  Now that is loud.  Even with a nice barrel it is still the loudest.  $120 is not that much for a loader if you plan to keep it.  If you pay that much for any gun then it sucks already.


Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 11:51am
^Well, you can buy a M98C for just a little over $120, and that is definitely not a sucky gun.

What are you talking about being the loudest? I honestly can't figure out what you're trying to say with that.


Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 12:07pm
I think I may get what you're saying now.....that the Cyclone is quiet, but the A5's firing noise is so loud that doesn't mater because it is louder than the Cyclone. This is true! The A5 is a loud gun that drowns out the silent hopper.

But you know what? Who cares? The silence of the Cyclone is NOT it's selling point! It's just nice to not hear that ANNOYING whining noise when I rip off a string....you'd appreciate it if you owned the gun, believe me.

As for the Cyclone, it can easily feed balls into the 15+bps ranger with zero breaks. As far as I know, only a few hoppers on the market are capable of this. One is the Halo B, another is the Evolution. Last time I checked, an Evolution was about $70, and a Halo was $120.

So, to get a hopper that feeds as fast as the Cyclone, you would have to pay at leas $70. So, a 15+bps hopper is worth at least $70 nowadays.

Now, the Cyclone hits those 15+bps without batteries, which NO other hopper can do! What's that worth to you?

Not to mention it's much greater paint capacity(220+), ability to cap the Cyclone to 30 rounds, and the silence is just the icing on the cake.


Posted By: VTpaintballer
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 12:48pm
Tippmann is a great company, go to any paintball store, 99.99% of the time you'll see a tippmann in that store becasue all store owners know that they are very good guns, now try to look for any other guns, 50% you may see a intimdator, and yes 100% of the time you'll see a spyder but are they recomended to paintballers? or are they just sitting on a shelf waiting for a newbie to buy it. You see when i went to buy my first gun, the store owner guy went right to the 98c he said, this is the best beginner gun and its best intermidet*(sp) gun, and so on, he (from what i can remeber) did not have a bad thing to say about this gun. Tippmann made there guns perfectly, they are all well rounded, the 98c and a5 all can be played fine in any field, speedball, woodsball, and so on. See a spyder is only good for beginers and intimidators are only good for rich and experienced players, and try using one of those guns during a woodsball game. Most of the people i know that have intimadator guns, sit out and wait for the next speedball game, and shoot about 700 paintballs that one game. Then you look at tippmann owners and you'll see that they can play every field with no problem. They master woodsball, and can keep up in any speedball game. Now if you disagree with this, then your eather jelious of us tippmann owners, or wish you bought a tippmann, or angry you're angry at tippmann in some way or another. See i'm not saying that mags, timmys, dye guns are bad, i'm just saying that tippmann is the best rounded marker for any field, and any experience level. And don't even get started how they're falling behind in technology, tippmann cyclone is amazing, first of its kind, when it first came out, everyone was surprised and amazed at its capability. And tippmann comes out with new upgrades all the time! And the only reason why they can't shoot as fast as a timmy or dm5 is becasue they're not wired with 12v batteries and the gun isn't relied on that 2" by 2" battery, you take that thing out of those guns and they can't shoot. And another reason why they can't shoot that fast is becasue they are built to last! their bolt is heavy, its not made out of stirophome, they are made out of strong material that doesn't break, and the set back from this is shooting less then 20 bps, ya think it really matters?! You only need one paintball to shoot someone. See some of you people get so brain washed that timmys and dyes ect. are the only good guns out there. This blocks, what the true meaning of a good marker really is, its a thing that is used to shoot someone and get them out of the game. Its not a thing used to show off how much bps you can shoot or how much it costs or how fast you can take it apart, people sometimes gets so tied up with their gun crap that they forget the thing that really makes you win, its your skill at the game not technlogy of your gun, or how much it costs! hopefully you get the picture now! !!!


Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 1:00pm
ive shoot 150,000+ shots out of my 98 and havent had to replace any parts...GG

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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 3:27pm
I'm currently out of paintball but if I ever buy another 'gun the a-5 will definately be on my "possibilities" list.

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Posted By: VTpaintballer
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 3:47pm
i don't see how you could be on a paintball forum and not paintball?



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