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Topic: paintball pistol
Posted By: LordCaliber
Subject: paintball pistol
Date Posted: 19 January 2005 at 5:12pm
i have a friend whos getting into paintball and he has his mind set on
having two pistols with two harnesses to hold them. since he thinks i
have the most knowledge of paintball in my school witch i think i
do but i have no idea what good pistol brands are and any places where
i can get some harness harnesses any info would help thanks
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Posted By: Liquid3
Date Posted: 19 January 2005 at 5:21pm
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He's so going to get lit up when he whips out those pistols. They are designed as close quarters(10-40 ft.) backup defence. Delta 68 aren't bad for cheap. Zeus G2 would be my #1 pick.
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Posted By: sportdeamon89
Date Posted: 19 January 2005 at 5:26pm
well u obiviously don't no much about paintball at all or u woulda told
him exactly what liquid said, that dual pisols are one of the worst
ideas ever.
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Posted By: Large Unit
Date Posted: 19 January 2005 at 5:28pm
I wouldn't know much about pistols becuase they are useless IMO, but I heard zeus made good ones.
Also I seriously reccomend your friend trys playing with 2 pistols before he buys them because I can guarantee that is not going to work.
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Posted By: LordCaliber
Date Posted: 19 January 2005 at 5:32pm
i knew they were for close range gez..but he really is set his mind to pistols im gonna have a hard time talking him out of it
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 19 January 2005 at 5:41pm
Sounds like someone has been watching too many Westerns.....draw ya pole cat, Im Wyatt Earp
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Posted By: A-5 08
Date Posted: 19 January 2005 at 5:51pm
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^^^evil is right, dang hes gunna get lit on fire, with paint, it seems stupid to me but is he wants pistols tell him to try one and see how accurate they are, m friend was set of nading everyone...that didn't last long, its the same thing with psitols tell him to get a pretty tippy,
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 19 January 2005 at 5:56pm
Well, the only way to convince yer friend is to let him get the 2 pistols and go into game wit him.....when he gets all lit up like a Christmas Tree then you can say...."I told you so"
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Posted By: sportdeamon89
Date Posted: 19 January 2005 at 6:38pm
evil_fingers wrote:
Well, the only way to convince yer friend is to let
him get the 2 pistols and go into game wit him.....when he gets all lit
up like a Christmas Tree then you can say...."I told you so" |
Great idea Evil lol. When u do, do it Caliber, video tape it so we can all watch lol.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 19 January 2005 at 9:03pm
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I went out with just a single PT Extreme on three different occasions.
The first time was in very thick cover and I eliminated several people with single shots and lasted the entire game. (This pistol was great in the stuff we were playing in; you couldn't see more than 20' in any direction and I got one of the eliminations specifically because my opponents barrel hooked on a vine when he saw me first.)
The second time I lasted the entire game and got one elimination in a face-to-face firefight. (Popping out and trying to make my ammo last by carefully aiming my shots from 60' away while he painted my cover with the contents of his entire hopper was not fun. It was challenging, but not fun.)
The third time I was doing okay until a little kid caught me while I was reloading. He chased me around a large patch of brush while I continued to try to reload and finally shot me on about the sixth lap. (I imagine it looked pretty amusing to the other players; I'm an adult and this kid was maybe 10 or 11 tops.)
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Posted By: sportdeamon89
Date Posted: 19 January 2005 at 9:10pm
^^^LMFAO thats great, woulda payed to see that.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 19 January 2005 at 9:55pm
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I was kind of annoyed about it at the time, but it was the kids first game and I was his first elimination. Anyway, now I chuckle about it whenever I think about it.
To answer part of the question I forgot to cover in my first post. Lord Caliber asked about harness's for the pistols. At one time I had two PTs because I picked one up in trade. Since I always tinker with stuff I have a very large scrap/excess part pile of paintball equipment. I had three separate holsters (One paintball, two for firearms). I played with several configurations but my favorite was having a tactical holster on my right thigh and a cross-draw holster low on my left side. Since I'm right-handed I could easily get to either PT with my dominant hand. Also in a pinch I could turn my wrist and get to the one in the shoulder holster left handed. Not that I would ever want to shoot lefthanded; if it wasn't for gravity my left-handed shots would miss the ground. I never used this set up during a game, I traded off one the PTs and one of the holsters for something else paintball related.
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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 8:40am
I'm the same way with my left hand Mack. No matter how much I practice with it, it has the IQ of broccoli. Using two pistols would just distract my concentration from whatever skill my right hand possesses.
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Posted By: Psycho5785
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 9:53am
Ok, I played a guy with two pistols once. He whooped the crap
out of us. He was ambidexterous, though, and practiced with
them almost every day. He had a pair of Zeus pistols. I use my
Delta 68 all the time during play, but it's usually after I have set
my A-5 or Carbine on the ground. Several times I have braced
my main marker against my right shoulder, held the pistol in the
other hand, and marched straight towards someone with both
markers ripping. Only been hit once doing that. Its very
intimidating. If he wants to get a pair, I would say Delta 68 or
Zeus.
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Posted By: Liquid3
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 10:08am
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I wasn't saying I was against pistols, I have a Zeus G2. I was just pointing out that most of the time you are going to get your butt handed to you if you use it as your primary weapon. Pistols don't have the range,accuracy or ROF of say a DM4 or Timmy.
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 10:24am
Lord Caliber if yer friend is going to ask where to get a dual holster fer 2 pistols, then look up http://www.cops911.com - www.cops911.com the person to contact is Robert, he can custom make one from scratch....and this is where I got my pbvest to haul all 8 of my qpods fer my qloader.
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Posted By: Menohl
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 11:04am
When it comes to pistols, if you friend wants to only play with 2 pistols, he will be at a serious disadvantage.
There are a few friends of mine who bought zeus pistols, but they were only for backup if they were reloading, or if they ran out of air or paint in their primary marker.
98% of the time, they found out that at the end of the day, they had not even taken them out of the holster even once, and in several cases, they got their holsters on their legs tore up when they were baseball sliding into bunkers, the other one's who had the chest holsters found them annoying when they were trying to crawl or lay down in grass, or behind a bunker.
Most of them no longer bring them out to play, because they felt they just got in the way.
The simple fact is that it takes alot longer to reload a paintball pistol for both paint or the 12 gram co2 than it takes to reaload a normal marker for paint, and if you are using the pistol as your primary marker you will spend most of your time loading paint and swapping out 12 gram cartridges, not shooting.
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Posted By: Ethos
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 11:38am
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Maybe he should think of entering pump/stock play?
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Posted By: jimbob07
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 12:10pm
I aint new, personally I think pistols are a waist of money. ,but if your friend has his mind set on these I would go for a 32 degrees pt extreme. You can get these and the holsters and ammo tubes on http://www.888paintball.com - www.888paintball.com for a good price.
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Posted By: Robotech
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 1:08pm
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The new Ariakon ACP is pretty nice too. I picked one up and like it quite a bit. Much lighter than my Zeus G1 and gets about 24 shots to a 12 gram while my Zeus got about 15-18.
As for going twin pistol it can be done well and not everyone gets lit up. A gentleman here in So Cal is known for running twin pistol and gets about 5-6 elminations per game. He moves a lot, can tuck in SUPER tight, and has this little move where he exposes almost NOTHING when he fires. I mean you see the side of his mask and a hand holding the pistol...that's it. He's good...but it took time to do that. If your friend has the patience to learn then go for it but if he doesn't then yes, he is better off going with a more traditional marker.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 1:57pm
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I believe Menohl is correct about backup pistols not getting much use. I remember using mine just once when I was carrying it as backup. I got in a situation (due to personal stupidity) where I had to run between two groups of the opposing team to rejoin my team guarding the flag. The pistol was in my left hand and my 98 was in my right; I didn't hit anything, but I kept their heads down and made it through. I did experience one problem though, the darn tactical holster I was wearing worked its way down below my knee while I was running. The guy needs to make sure he gets a good holster. (Mine was a shoulder holster that was originally for a large frame scoped revolver which I had modified somewhat. Hmmm, did I spell "scoped" right, is it even a real word?)
Also, I've posted the following info in another "pistol" thread somewhere and went into much more detail, but here is the down and dirty on the two pistols I have experience with.
Sidekick Semi: Blow-forward design with 12g CO2 led to massive velocity fluctuations shot-to-shot. (250-400+) I ended up sending it back for a full refund. I was very happy with their customer service and would have been willing to try the pistol again when they worked the bugs out. Unfortunately, their website is no longer around (paintballstuff.com) so I don't think they are either. (Which kind of bites for the folks with the $20 lifetime warranties on their Sidekicks.)
PT Extreme: I tinkered with this for almost two years and was never happy. I replaced the ball detent with one of my own design and got excellent results. I tried a variety of aftermarket main springs and springs I had laying around and finally got decent velocity (280 fps). I installed a dual twelve gram system for longer time between changing cartridges. I could not get the stock quick changer to stay adjusted; it cost me a lot of wasted 12 grams. I had continuous valve problems. With this in mind I wouldn't recommend any version of the PT to anyone. (Although some folks claim these problems have been fixed in the PT Jr.)
I recommend visiting http://www.pbreview.com/ - http://www.pbreview.com/ and reading what various folks have to say. I'm hoping for reviews on the Ariakon ACP because I like the looks of it as my next pistol.
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Posted By: mobius_1
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 7:42pm
I own a Palmer Squall, which is a pistol size version of the Typhoon, that runs off of 12 grms. I have been using it as my main ever since I got it. I use a Ronin Gear stock class harness to carry my 10 rnd tubes and 12 grms. I haven't even touched my cocker since I got my Squall, it has better accuracy than my cocker with the same range as my cocker.
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Posted By: Halo
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 1:17am
Like the others said, the Delta is nice, And the Zeus. I am buying a Zues off one of the guys at the field I play at. Good for back up, not good for going John Wayne.
I have heard of some Demo guys going out with a pistol and then RPG. Dont know how good they do like that.
Maybe he can pull it off.
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Posted By: Halo
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 1:19am
mobius_1,
Now that is a nice marker. Glad to here you are having a good run with it. Palmer just cant be beat.
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Posted By: mobius_1
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 9:45am
Thanks Halo, a buddy of mine has a stock class phantom. We always play together and are a force to be reckoned at the fields we play at, cause we have learned how to move and play in a way to counter players with High rates of fire. It is a very rewading feeling. And your right Palmer's are awesome.
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Posted By: Psycho5785
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 9:49am
I will have a Nasty Typhoon someday...
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 10:18am
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Psycho5785 wrote:
I will have a Nasty Typhoon someday... |
Same here and Palmers store is jus 70 miles away from me.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 11:28am
Squall=ultracool but>my current $.
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Posted By: mobius_1
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 12:57pm
evil_fingers wrote:
Same here and Palmers store is jus 70 miles away from me. |
You are lucky...I'm in MI that is kinda far away for me to go there
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Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 2:54pm
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well if this helps at all..................just tell him to get a pack and harness instead of getting pistols. then he can get a good gun for regular use, and not have to worry about using a pistol and getting lit up. dont know if that helped at all.....................awell.
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 5:51pm
mobius_1 wrote:
evil_fingers wrote:
Same here and Palmers store is jus 70 miles away from me.
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You are lucky...I'm in MI that is kinda far away for me to go there  |
Im lucky.... heh, the guys that live in the same city where the store is located are way more lucky.
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Posted By: DrunkDriver
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 5:56pm
The Arikon has the ACP, I hear from the Arikon forum that it is very nice. You could tell you friend to go with a Zeus G1 or a G2.
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