bob long vs. angel
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Topic: bob long vs. angel
Posted By: dan15
Subject: bob long vs. angel
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 4:06pm
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i dont know witch gun is better because i havent been playing paintball that long.
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Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 4:30pm
Macdev
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 5:21pm
Difnitly the Bob Long.Which Timmy are you looking at?
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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 5:55pm
i think we all know where this is going...
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Posted By: P!NK panther
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 6:23pm
Timmy, Alais, A-bomb, 05 ripper, 05 lasoya, so on and so fourth
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Posted By: red_alert204
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 6:25pm
Angel in my mind I like the fly and 05 speed better then any timmy
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Posted By: paintballer2584
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 8:20pm
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angel all the wat boblong guns are nice but over rated
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Posted By: a5guy07
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 8:37pm
omg these threads are sooo worthless - if u really havent been playing paintball that long then why does it matter your not getting a gun... and if you are looking at a gun then go and shoot each cuz i doubt ur gunna spend well over a grand b/c of what a person on a tippmann forum says. But imao angel is much better cuz bob long guns are glorified spyders
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Posted By: f@ll3n 5nip3r
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 8:57pm
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2k4kev wrote:
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^yep but between those two WDP by FARRRR
i have shot a fly,o4 speed/05speed,and a angel a4
and a alias,05 ripper,texas storm,lasoya
WDP>everything else almost except for macdev
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Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 8:57pm
every timmy i have ever shot chopped a lot, even with a halo and eyes. One of the middies on my team shoots and A4 Fly though, and it has a magnetic trigger thinger mah bob (no idea what it is, some master tech mod or w/e) and it rips, i have honestly seen this kid pull 31 bps with it. course his halo cant feed that so it wasnt with paint
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Posted By: conflict1209
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 1:13am
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GO ANGLE, 1st timmys suck, because.... all timmys are the same just dif
milling and color, and because they are over rated and everyone..
EVERYONE thinks they are the best..... if i was you( which im not )
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 4:59pm
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GhilleMan wrote:
every timmy i have ever shot chopped a lot, even with a halo and eyes. One of the middies on my team shoots and A4 Fly though, and it has a magnetic trigger thinger mah bob (no idea what it is, some master tech mod or w/e) and it rips, i have honestly seen this kid pull 31 bps with it. course his halo cant feed that so it wasnt with paint |
Ugh there are so many tards in this forum who know nothing at all about Timmys. I have never had one break in my Timmy and I was using it in 20* weather with poop paint. If he was chopping then it was probably because the tard doesn't know how to use a Timmy or he was using BE type paint. If the input pressure is to high your going to break paint. If you use poop paint then your going to break paint. If your pressure is to high and you use poop paint your going to break paint. It doesn't take a genuis to figure this stuff out unless you don't know what your doing.
The "Timmys are glorified spyders" is the lamest excuse not to like Timmys. Its almost as retarted as "Timmys Suck" without giving any evidence to why. Lets go through this again since some people haev such small brains they can't figure this out. The First Timmy was a Spyder with better parts. Since then the Timmy has evolved to be one of the lightest, smallest, fastast and most durable guns out there on the paintball market. Its one of the best guns out there.
As for all Timmys being the same well I don't see WDP making any new revolutionary new guns. The last time I checked they're just making a few cosmetic changes and overpricing for it. So it looks like all Angels are the same.
IMO Cyborgs, Sonic Cyborgs, Timmys, Dm4s Dm5s > Angels. Timmys might chop (only if your a tard) but I bet you can't go one day with out your Angel taking a major poop in the middle of a game.
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Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 5:21pm
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 5:26pm
Civilian Of wrote:
Scarface22 sucks
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Wow did you have to strain your miniscule brain to think of that. I don't think I should use such big words it would be way over your head to comprehend.
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Posted By: gnarkill
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 5:28pm
hahahaha nobody likes you^ 
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Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 5:33pm
gnarkill wrote:
hahahaha nobody likes you^  |
-Psst- He means Scarface22
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Posted By: A-5 bunkerking
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 6:45pm
Civilian Of wrote:
Scarface22 sucks |
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 8:29pm
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ScarFace22 wrote:
Ugh there are so many tards in this forum....
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.... but I bet you can't go one day with out your Angel taking a major poop in the middle of a game. |
hey you proved your own point....you might not be as stupid as everyone else on this forum thinks
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Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 9:29pm
A-5 bunkerking wrote:
Civilian Of wrote:
Scarface22 sucks
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 11:25pm
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GhilleMan wrote:
every timmy i have ever shot chopped a lot, even with a halo and eyes. One of the middies on my team shoots and A4 Fly though, and it has a magnetic trigger thinger mah bob (no idea what it is, some master tech mod or w/e) and it rips, i have honestly seen this kid pull 31 bps with it. course his halo cant feed that so it wasnt with paint |
Heh, are you SURE it wasn't on Demo Mode?
My Fly is t3h c00l. Never shot a Timmy, though, so I can't say which is better.
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Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 5:06am
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angels are for nooooobs.
lol, dont bother flame im leaving this thread and not coming back, and if you get mad at me for not stating reasons well thats super cuz i have a million times in other threads, and it wayyyy to long to post again.
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Posted By: red_alert204
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 8:12am
my angel has never broken for me except for when I was tard and messed
up the lpr but that was mine all fault otherwise its been fine.....
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Posted By: reticule
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 10:36am
A-5 bunkerking wrote:
Civilian Of wrote:
Scarface22 sucks |
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Posted By: reticule
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 10:41am
Comparing Timmies and Angels is not fair. Angels are much
better. For a tougher comparison, I would suggest Dye VS WDP,
since both are well designed.
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Posted By: 98c Dude13
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 10:49am
The intimitators kill the angels.
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 2:11pm
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98c Dude13 wrote:
The intimitators kill the angels. |
Your spelling kills ay respect you might have earned by that false statement.
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Posted By: 989898989898989
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 2:35pm
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i think that bob long is better but angels are still good
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 4:04pm
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reticule wrote:
Comparing Timmies and Angels is not fair. Angels are much better. For a tougher comparison, I would suggest Dye VS WDP, since both are well designed.
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And how is the Timmy not well designed. Prove it without throwing false BS out there.
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Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 4:06pm
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ScarFace22 wrote:
but I bet you can't go one day with out your Angel taking a major poop in the middle of a game. |
Damn dude, you need to settle down and learn a few things about pneumatics, marker designs, and life. Thats all I have to really say to you.
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 4:09pm
Sure even though I know about all that stuff and have owned and used many different guns with different designs and different sytems of operation.
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Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 4:11pm
ScarFace22 wrote:
reticule wrote:
Comparing Timmies and Angels is not fair. Angels are much better. For a tougher comparison, I would suggest Dye VS WDP, since both are well designed.
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And how is the Timmy not well designed. Prove it without throwing false BS out there.
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1. Some Alias's (Spin-off Versions included) Eye Covers dont hold the Eyes in. The Eyes do not stay propely aligned and some fall out. The quick fix is that one would stick tape, paper, or a spacer of some sort to prevent that form happening.
2. A-Bomb's cave in. They milled the area around the feedneck to thin so it is possible to bend and cave in.
3. They smash the Solenoid in between the Body and Frame. They also use tubing to feed the Ram air that comes out of the Solenoid.
4. For christ sakes, they are still using 2K2 mauals and boxes.
Your turn...
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 4:19pm
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tgaffner wrote:
1. Some Alias's (Spin-off Versions included) Eye Covers dont hold the Eyes in. The Eyes do not stay propely aligned and some fall out. The quick fix is that one would stick tape, paper, or a spacer of some sort to prevent that form happening.
That was the first few batches of Alias Timmys that had problems. Big woop de do every gun has bugs when it first comes out. I know it was a problem but since the first batch of Timmys came out those problems have been fixed.
2. A-Bomb's cave in. They milled the area around the feedneck to thin so it is possible to bend and cave in.
I guess I've never used an A-bomb Timmy so I don't know.
3. They smash the Solenoid in between the Body and Frame. They also use tubing to feed the Ram air that comes out of the Solenoid.
O well big deal. Have you ever taking a 2k4 Timmy apart? If you have you would see how small it is. Theres not room to put the solnoid anywhere else. To me I cuold care less that they "smash" the solnoid between the body and frame. As I said the Timmy is so small theres no where else to put it. Anyway theres no real need to mess with the sonoid unless it breaks.
4. For christ sakes, they are still using 2K2 mauals and boxes.
Ah..in case you haven't noticed there is no real big difference between the 2k2 and 2k4. The system of maintence and programming is exactly the same for both models. Again another poor attempt to make a point.
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Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 4:22pm
Civilian Of wrote:
Scarface22 sucks |
he always has been pretty brainless
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Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 4:24pm
ScarFace22 wrote:
tgaffner wrote:
1. Some Alias's (Spin-off Versions included) Eye Covers dont hold the Eyes in. The Eyes do not stay propely aligned and some fall out. The quick fix is that one would stick tape, paper, or a spacer of some sort to prevent that form happening.
That was the first few batches of Alias Timmys that had problems. Big woop de do every gun has bugs when it first comes out. I know it was a problem but since the first batch of Timmys came out those problems have been fixed.
2. A-Bomb's cave in. They milled the area around the feedneck to thin so it is possible to bend and cave in.
I guess I've never used an A-bomb Timmy so I don't know.
3. They smash the Solenoid in between the Body and Frame. They also use tubing to feed the Ram air that comes out of the Solenoid.
O well big deal. Have you ever taking a 2k4 Timmy apart? If you have you would see how small it is. Theres not room to put the solnoid anywhere else. I'll agree with you there....To me I cuold care less that they "smash" the solnoid between the body and frame. As I said the Timmy is so small theres no where else to put it. Anyway theres no real need to mess with the sonoid unless it breaks.
4. For christ sakes, they are still using 2K2 mauals and boxes.
Ah..in case you haven't noticed there is no real big difference between the 2k2 and 2k4. The system of maintence and programming is exactly the same for both models. Again another poor attempt to make a point. I know there is not a huge difference, but there is still some. They could atleast update it or put a new cover on it. Show that they atleast care enough to update things, like their website....
Your turn...
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Now you tell me some design flaws on any WDP Marker...
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Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 4:27pm
hybrid-sniper wrote:
GhilleMan wrote:
every timmy i have ever shot chopped a lot, even with a halo and eyes. One of the middies on my team shoots and A4 Fly though, and it has a magnetic trigger thinger mah bob (no idea what it is, some master tech mod or w/e) and it rips, i have honestly seen this kid pull 31 bps with it. course his halo cant feed that so it wasnt with paint |
Heh, are you SURE it wasn't on Demo Mode?
My Fly is t3h c00l. Never shot a Timmy, though, so I can't say which is better. |
ya, positive cause then he handed it to me and I took a try and got 18-19 ish
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Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 4:33pm
GhilleMan wrote:
hybrid-sniper wrote:
GhilleMan wrote:
every timmy i have ever shot chopped a lot, even with a halo and eyes. One of the middies on my team shoots and A4 Fly though, and it has a magnetic trigger thinger mah bob (no idea what it is, some master tech mod or w/e) and it rips, i have honestly seen this kid pull 31 bps with it. course his halo cant feed that so it wasnt with paint |
Heh, are you SURE it wasn't on Demo Mode?
My Fly is t3h c00l. Never shot a Timmy, though, so I can't say which is better.
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ya, positive cause then he handed it to me and I took a try and got 18-19 ish |
It proabably was on Demo. He just knows how to Ramp it.
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Posted By: reticule
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 6:00pm
ScarFace22 wrote:
tgaffner wrote:
1. Some Alias's (Spin-off Versions included) Eye Covers dont
hold the Eyes in. The Eyes do not stay propely aligned and some fall
out. The quick fix is that one would stick tape, paper, or a spacer of
some sort to prevent that form happening.
That was the first few batches of Alias Timmys
that had problems. Big woop de do every gun has bugs when it first
comes out. I know it was a problem but since the first batch of Timmys
came out those problems have been fixed.
2. A-Bomb's cave in. They milled the area around the feedneck to thin so it is possible to bend and cave in.
I guess I've never used an A-bomb Timmy so I don't know.
3. They smash the Solenoid in between the Body and Frame. They also
use tubing to feed the Ram air that comes out of the Solenoid.
O well big deal. Have you ever taking a 2k4
Timmy apart? If you have you would see how small it is. Theres not room
to put the solnoid anywhere else. To me I cuold care less that they
"smash" the solnoid between the body and frame. As I said the Timmy is
so small theres no where else to put it. Anyway theres no real need to
mess with the sonoid unless it breaks.
4. For christ sakes, they are still using 2K2 mauals and boxes.
Ah..in case you haven't noticed there is no
real big difference between the 2k2 and 2k4. The system of maintence
and programming is exactly the same for both models. Again another poor
attempt to make a point.
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^^^
Holy **edited**ing S***!!!! Scarface22 is attempting to address points
made in a debate! Anyhow, though we disagree, this is what
I expect from opposition. My dislike for timmies, is not based on
performance since my dark timmy shot pretty fast, and was very
efficient. My dislikes are based on efforts needed to prepare and
maintain a timmy since a lot of the internal parts aren't nearly as
secured as internal parts of other guns. But this is what makes
it so light.
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Posted By: BuffaloSolda1
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 7:23pm
2k4kev wrote:
Macdev |
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Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 7:58pm
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Notice how he wont reply and explain the defects in WDP's products....
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Posted By: reticule
Date Posted: 23 January 2005 at 12:14am
I'm hard pressed to find one, but if I have to, it would be the plastic
breach knob with brass threading. I hate those things, but that's
all I can think of.
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 23 January 2005 at 12:24am
My only gripe with angels was the 90° fram, i never liked them. They fixed this with the 05 speeds, and now i am dying for a 45 framed graphite 05 speed.
Why do these type of threads come up and never like Matrix Vs Anything, or AKA vs Anything, or E-Cocker vs Anything? Maybe cause they are the 2 most used guns (maybe not anymore with the DM's out and all) in the sport? Whatever, ill stay away from bob long guns because of my "bias" you could call it i guess.
Anyway, my 2 cents: Im loving this trix more then any gun ive tried to date, and i havent even got it out to the field yet. Check them out, they rock!
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Posted By: Iplayinmysleep
Date Posted: 29 January 2005 at 12:23pm
timmys are the best markers bar none, I like like some but others dont appeal to me. I like the lasoya, a bomb, empire, alias, russian legion, naughty dogs, even the z series and the 02 is okay, but the dragon, species, and the storm dont appeal to me because there is just to much milling there is to much to look at.
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