is the DM5 the gun?
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Topic: is the DM5 the gun?
Posted By: Liquid3
Subject: is the DM5 the gun?
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 11:17pm
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I am shopping for a new speedball gun. I am in Smart Parts territory so I'll have to travel to see the Dye line. I don't know anybody that has one yet that I could try. If anybody does here, I want to know if it is actually all they claim. I've read up on them but I need the inside info. Actual BPS,Problems,Maint. hassels, ect..... Alternate is a Shocker which I am very familiar with. Thanks
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 26 January 2005 at 12:30am
Go for the DM4, save yourself some cash and get something thats just a tad heavier, but just as good. Then spend that money on a tadao 5 chip with musashi 3 and rip faces off. All you really have to do is lube it after every 2 cases or so, and it should be fine for a long time. Use Slick Honey for this.
Actual BPS (with musashi 3) = 22BPS+ if a loader can keep up.
Problems = Keep it lubed and you should be fine.
Maintenance = Lube it after 2 cases or so.
Hassels = Spending too much on paint.
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Posted By: Liquid3
Date Posted: 26 January 2005 at 12:44am
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Problem with that is I'm planning on having it until it dies ,so I wanted to get DM5 to get ahead of the game as much as possible. They say it does 23BPS stock and you know next year they'll have a board for it too. Money is not a prob.(big tax return) Everybody is saying it's smaller,lighter,faster, and smarter than the DM4. I just wanted the inside skinny on it.
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Posted By: The Man
Date Posted: 26 January 2005 at 12:31pm
IMO get a Sonic borg it will shot as fast as you can boards caped at
35bps. It's lighter (1.9pds),smaller, and more gas efficient. No
upgrades needed it comes with the best already. I had a chance to shot
a DM5 a couple weekend I was disipointed sp? It felf just like a dm4 it
was only a tad bit smaller and lighter than a DM4 efficiency still
sucked. The Sonic is also very easy to mantain you only need to lube it
every 15-20 cases. I'm ot saying the DM5 sucks but look into the Sonic
borg. Any questions about it let me know.
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Posted By: Liquid3
Date Posted: 26 January 2005 at 2:35pm
Dude that thing is $2000. Money isn't a big prob. but for that much money. Why don't I see more of them around. I just answered my question with that statement didn't I? There is nowhere even close to me that carries them. I won't buy without tring it. You can ship me your's to try out. I'll send it back, I promise
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Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 26 January 2005 at 2:37pm
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$2000... not quite.
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Posted By: Liquid3
Date Posted: 26 January 2005 at 2:51pm
Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 26 January 2005 at 3:06pm
I still say if youre looking at the DM's, the 4 is the way to go. My friend bought a 5 and he was wishing he saved the extra hundred and got the 4... The tadao with musashi chip is already out for the dm5, its the same software as the dm4's meaning it will shoot the same speed, which is still faster then you can pull the trigger.
Other guns to look into:
-Cyborg (stock is fine...)
-Egos
-05 Speeds
-Timmys (i would suggest staying away from them, but if you like the feel, then whatever...)
-Vikings or Excaliburs
-Predator 2'd angels
-Vision shockers (not as bad as people say but not my cup of tea)
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Posted By: The Man
Date Posted: 26 January 2005 at 3:41pm
LOL it's not $2000 it's 1250. The reason you don't see too many Sonics
around is because it's not a widly know marker which does not make it
bad, people generaly want the marker every one else has Macdev has yet
to hit it big in the US there more popular over in europe with pro team
ignition using them. Macdev will make it big in the US it will just
take time. It out preformes nearly marker at my field 2200+ shots off a
71/4500psi +3-3 over the chrono and it's not even broken in yet! First
time using it no trigger adjustments I hit 17bps over the chrono. I can
rip even faster with it now.The Stock barrel is great, Comes with a
clamping feedneck,nice trigg, and alot other things. Where are you
located? I could direct you to a macdev dealer. I'm like you I had to
try it out before i got one I shot one at the world cup.
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Posted By: Liquid3
Date Posted: 26 January 2005 at 10:45pm
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Thanks I will try and get my hands on one and check it out. Sorry about the price. I went back and saw it was euros $ not american $ .There site has a dealer link so I'll see who is around Ohio. Again, Thanks.
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 26 January 2005 at 11:15pm
If it was euros it would be a number LESS than the price in american dollars, not greater than.
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Posted By: gnarkill
Date Posted: 27 January 2005 at 4:58pm
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THERES ONLY ONE BAD THING ABOUT THE DM4/5.. theres this o ring on the back of the bolt that needs to be replaced almost every other time i play. pm me if you have any other questions
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Posted By: Fast Splat
Date Posted: 27 January 2005 at 6:52pm
I would go for the DM4. Save some money for the bottom line.
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Posted By: Liquid3
Date Posted: 27 January 2005 at 10:12pm
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Thanks for the help guys. I'm going to add a Sonic Borg to the shopping list.
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Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 28 January 2005 at 6:57am
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you made the right choice
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 28 January 2005 at 12:08pm
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Fast Splat wrote:
I would go for the DM4. Save some money for the bottom line. |
I agree. The DM4 is cheaper and just as good as the DM5. There isn't really a HUGE difference between the two guns.
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Posted By: gnarkill
Date Posted: 28 January 2005 at 3:20pm
ScarFace22 wrote:
Fast Splat wrote:
I would go for the DM4. Save some money for the bottom line. |
I agree. The DM4 is cheaper and just as good as the DM5. There isn't really a HUGE difference between the two guns.
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I thought the same thing.. when i had a dm4. Then i shot the dm5 at the cup and i guess being a matrix owner i was wow`d. I aggree there isnt a HUGE difference but if you have the money go for the dm5, TO ME all those small changes did make it a better gun.
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Posted By: jeep 98 custom
Date Posted: 28 January 2005 at 5:21pm
^^^Which is why I just bought one, inspite of people telling me save my money and get a DM4.
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 28 January 2005 at 9:06pm
I REALLY hope you got a good deal on it... How much did you spend? Over 1200 and you should have looked harder.
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Posted By: jeep 98 custom
Date Posted: 29 January 2005 at 5:49pm
$1225
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Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 29 January 2005 at 6:36pm
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If youve got the money go for it, Id love a DM5 but that money is going toward a car.
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Posted By: EGOpimp
Date Posted: 29 January 2005 at 7:46pm
Get an EGO. The performance is much, much better than that of a
Matrix... think of it like this, it's like a Timmy and a Matrix, minus all
the bad things, plus a bunch of extra goodies.
IMO, get an EGO.
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Posted By: mattk
Date Posted: 01 February 2005 at 10:43am
^^^the ego looks like a knock off timmy with an E-blade on it. I am not
sure how it works exactly but if it is a sear tripper like the eblades, I am
really going to dislike the ego's
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Posted By: Liquid3
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 11:39am
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I would get one of E's Nexus cocker's first. those are the best cockers out there. I have my new gun! It's red, it's fast, it wasn't even on my shopping list. You guys are going to bag on me bad. (notice I haven't said what it is yet)
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Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 2:42pm
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Is it a proto Matrix?
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Posted By: gnarkill
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 3:21pm
^ Why ever get a proto when you have the money to get a dm5?
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Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 3:25pm
Because I said Sonic Cyborg, and that doesnt come in red, and then he ferther explains that it was not on his "shopping list" so its either an ego or a PM5 and I hate the way the ego looks soo.....
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Posted By: Liquid3
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 3:56pm
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(Prepares for the worst) I got a Nerve w/ Dynasty brd. and NDZ everything for $900. (hunkers down waiting for it).......
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Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 4:00pm
sigh
:Hits him with a stick repeatedly:
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Posted By: The Man
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 4:01pm
I would not have gotten it but that's just cuz i hate SP but what ever you like.
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Posted By: gnarkill
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 4:34pm
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Liquid3 wrote:
(Prepares for the worst) I got a Nerve w/ Dynasty brd. and NDZ everything for $900. (hunkers down waiting for it)....... |
CONGRADULATIONS!!! now your going to be hounded by every ref at every tourny you enter!
*assumes your on a team*
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Posted By: Johndcjr1989
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 5:30pm
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ok i know a guy who just got a dm5 and he loves it. ive shot it and its definantly FAST. its really nice but it is a major gas hog. even with a new reg it wont be as efficient as other guns. right now everybody is going crazy for timmies. there are a lot of used timmies on the market right now and thats what everybody is buying. why ppl are selling dm4s and angels to get timmies ill never know since they are all really great guns. but if u wanna follow the trend id buy a timmy---im gettin one soon just because i was open to everything high end and found a good deal on an ironman.
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 7:15pm
Nerves are the biggest "cheater guns" on the market. They ramp like crazy.
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Posted By: FalloutMan
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 8:42pm
well if you want a gun that will out live you i can give you some recommendations...
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Posted By: Liquid3
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 10:40pm
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Wow! Thanks guys. I expected to be stoned to death, disemboweled, and drug over glass. I'm alive, Yeah! I live right near SP and am very aware of all the legal rulings (The real truth lies somewhere in the middle and there were no innocent parties involved). I have played with a couple of people who have them and they said it wasn't too bad on gun check. The Dynasty board has a totally legal setting so I'll get by. Thanks again for all you guys help. I appeciate it.
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Posted By: jeep 98 custom
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 11:22pm
ScarFace22 wrote:
Nerves are the biggest "cheater guns" on the market. They ramp like crazy. |
He said his has the Dynasty board, which doesn't ramp so....his isn't a cheater gun at all.
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Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 7:05am
.... but its ugly.
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 8:04am
All I know is the stock boards on the Nerve ramp like crazy. Thats all I'm saying.
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Posted By: Liquid3
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 9:17am
It shot really well, and has less maint. than a shocker. To me it looks like something Ferrari would build, but that's just me. I go for function first. The NDZ trigger helps alot. I did get the stock board loose with it. I might throw it in just to have some fun some time. They say it's insane the way it ramps (one finger, don't even have to have a clue to shoot high 20's) If my brother gets a hold of it I'll be in the hospital LOL.
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 9:42am
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EGOpimp wrote:
Get an EGO. The performance is much, much better than that of a Matrix... think of it like this, it's like a Timmy and a Matrix, minus all the bad things, plus a bunch of extra goodies.
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Egos aren't that great. They're Better then a Matrix huh.. right. It might be a little more air effcient but thier not as good as a Matrix. Minus the bad things..what bad things. I've owned and Alias and have used it for awhile now and I have had ZERO problems. Its ligter then the EGO, faster then the EGO and more gas effcient then the EGO. Its also smaller and probably a little more reliable. As long as you lube the Ram assembly the Timmy will be one of the best guns out there. I would take a Timmy or a Matrick over any thing PE makes.
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