homemade auto trigger
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Topic: homemade auto trigger
Posted By: Klaus
Subject: homemade auto trigger
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 8:35pm
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I'm a rec baller-i stick to urban combat in the sheds on my property-sick combat at its best
I like to modify my A-5 by hand-minimal factory upgrades-flatline only, definately worth it
I don't have a machine shop or anything-I stick to tape, wire, and luck
I built a push button tac-lite for my A-5 (if you want instructions, let me know), mounted a red dot hunting sight, and I was bored, so i stripped the trigger of my gun (easy thanks to the pins)...taking a look at the trigger mechanism, i quickly figured out how to modify the sear to make the gun a full auto (all you need is a toothpick believe it or not)...problem is, my rate of fire is far to incredibly high to be of any use (60 rounds a seconds-means almost two cases in a minute--burns through a little 12 oz in less than 5 minutes of sporadic bursts) and yes, 60bps does outshoot the cyclone...
Anyone got ideas for more mods? AND!, anyone got any advice on how to slow down the rate of fire to keep it from making a mess in my cyclone/action?
im half amish and i cant figure out how to post a pic from my hard drive-help?
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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 8:37pm
put the sear back in it can whack out your gun
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Posted By: tipman_drew
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 8:38pm
what he said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Posted By: xXtippmannXx
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 8:44pm
u need to get a pic man...
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Posted By: P!NK panther
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 8:47pm
This is MARKER GALLERY
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Posted By: Bugsy
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 8:59pm
Yea... 60bps on an A-5. LOL
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 9:05pm
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yeah...sorry about putting it on the gallery, my fault sorry
yeah...its more like 60 airshots a second...if i put in paint, it shoots half of them, but makes a mess in the gun
i didnt take the sear out-i just disangaged the reset-hard to explain sorry-ill try pics later
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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 9:56pm
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well ever you did put it back how it suppose to be
heres something safer:
- take out stock TRIGGER spring and put in a clicky pen spring cut to the same size
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 10:04pm
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bravecoward-whats a pen spring gonna do?
i don't care about lighter trigger pull-isnt that what the new spring does?
theres no real chance of harming the gun-its well built and the only mod is a piece of toothpick-not even a cm long
i can switch it back in less than a minute (love those pins)
goodnight
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 10:46pm
cut the tooth pick length wise
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 9:40am
Theres no problem at all with the toothpick!!! The
toothpick works fine, the sear works fine, BUT the
action cycles way to fast for the cyclone
I need advice on how to slow the action down or
speed the feeder up-no advice on the sear or trigger
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Posted By: xXtippmannXx
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 10:01am
its cool..but get it right next time..
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Posted By: Ditmar369
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 3:49pm
u need to get a pic man...
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Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 7:13pm
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I got some advice, post in the right forum. I had to say it sorry if I sounded mean.
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Posted By: DM5man
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 9:30am
60 BPS I'll believe it when I see it
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Posted By: paintball_playa
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 11:32am
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no pic no post
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Posted By: miller_lite15
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 7:31pm
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I thought about this for a sec, and I bet he just put a piece of toothpick between the front of the sear notch and the pin, so when he holds the trigger down it also holds the sear down so the bolt never engages the sear, so it goes auto. Then when he lets go of the trigger, the sear is released and catches the bolt. whenever he pulls the trigger it goes auto, and when he lets go, it stops, so it is pretty much an auto A5.
Klaus, if that is how you did it, its a very smart idea, congrats. and no, it probibly wont hurt the gun, except fill it with paint. Like you said, I wonder if you could slow down the cycle rate, cause that would be awsome! Also, i dont think the cycle rate of an A5 would be as high as 60 bps, but its probibly still shooting at about 35 bps, or a little more.
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Posted By: xXtippmannXx
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 10:49pm
need a pic.....
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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 10:58pm
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If you mix graphite and regular liquid lube, it will make a kind of sludge that will slow the bolt down.
But its really dumb and not safe to go full auto anyway.
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 5:40pm
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you will ruin your gun like this... like you said it is cycling faster
than the gun can feed and the internals aren't meant to cycle at this
speed for any length of time. there is no way of feeding paint
into the gun fast enough. take the piece of toothpick out of your
gun and learn to shoot faster. get the r/t or e-grip. there
is a constant flow of posts like this with newbs who think its
cool. if you want to break your gun... go ahead and keep it
up.
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Posted By: paintball_playa
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 8:54pm
yea, it does sound like hes trying to **edited** up his gun
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 7:33pm
miller_lite15 wrote:
I thought about this for a sec, and I bet he just put a piece of toothpick between the front of the sear notch and the pin, so when he holds the trigger down it also holds the sear down so the bolt never engages the sear, so it goes auto. Then when he lets go of the trigger, the sear is released and catches the bolt. whenever he pulls the trigger it goes auto, and when he lets go, it stops, so it is pretty much an auto A5.
Klaus, if that is how you did it, its a very smart idea, congrats. and no, it probibly wont hurt the gun, except fill it with paint. Like you said, I wonder if you could slow down the cycle rate, cause that would be awsome! Also, i dont think the cycle rate of an A5 would be as high as 60 bps, but its probibly still shooting at about 35 bps, or a little more.
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bingo buddy boy-thats exactly what i did
i put plenty of oil in the bolt/action-which surprisingly makes a relatively effective hydralulic buffer-its almost to a managable rate
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 7:35pm
miller_lite15 wrote:
I thought about this for a sec, and I bet he just put a piece of toothpick between the front of the sear notch and the pin, so when he holds the trigger down it also holds the sear down so the bolt never engages the sear, so it goes auto. Then when he lets go of the trigger, the sear is released and catches the bolt. whenever he pulls the trigger it goes auto, and when he lets go, it stops, so it is pretty much an auto A5.
Klaus, if that is how you did it, its a very smart idea, congrats. and no, it probibly wont hurt the gun, except fill it with paint. Like you said, I wonder if you could slow down the cycle rate, cause that would be awsome! Also, i dont think the cycle rate of an A5 would be as high as 60 bps, but its probibly still shooting at about 35 bps, or a little more.
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bingo buddy boy! thats exactly what I did
i put extra oil in the action which makes a surprisingly effective hydraulic buffer-its almost down to a mangable rate
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Posted By: Bugsy
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 8:22pm
Cool double post! Take that stupid toothpick out and get an E-Grip. Then, you can go 12bps Fully Auto.
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 9:40pm
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sorry about the double post-completely my fault
yeah 12 bps sounds awesome compared to a meager 45bps (hydraulic buffered) and its way cheaper than a toothpick
...except, im the kinda guy who likes to screw around with stuff-without guys like me, we'd still be grunting in a cave
im not calling the Egrip ineffective-i completely believe it works well but im not asking for anyone to tell me to buy an egrip
if anyone here is literate (yep, that means you can read), then please read the part where i wrote "any advice on how to get it to work, let me know" i don't need anyone to tell me to take out the toothpick or to buy an upgrade
and please quit telling me im going to break my gun or as "paintball_playa" so eliquently put it-"yea, it does sound like hes trying to **edited** up his gun" because if it breaks ill fix it
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 10:24pm
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procarbinefreak wrote:
you will ruin your gun like this... like you said it is cycling faster than the gun can feed and the internals aren't meant to cycle at this speed for any length of time. there is no way of feeding paint into the gun fast enough. take the piece of toothpick out of your gun and learn to shoot faster. get the r/t or e-grip. there is a constant flow of posts like this with newbs who think its cool. if you want to break your gun... go ahead and keep it up. |
im a newb who thinks its cool and wants to break my gun eh?
well, i dont think im cool-i think your cool for making fun of people who like to tinker and have a little fun-oh your so awesome, an upfront to God himself-please teach me to be as cool as you cause im sick of people liking me and if i could be cool like you everyone would avoid me and i could die alone, old and bitter
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Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 11:20pm
going to wreck your valve 
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 4:43pm
k.... fine... i guess i did come off a bit mean...
the forum has a constant flow of people, who are generally new to the
sport, post about this. they think it is a good idea, but it is
not. it will ruin the gun if you keep doing it. and
tippmann isn't going to replace parts if you were basically taking the
sear out of the entire operation of the marker. if you want to
have a properly working marker... take out the toothpick and pull the
trigger faster. of course... if you can find some way of slowing
down the cycling speed without completely ruining your gun more power
to ya!
and only in time will you be able to be as cool as me ...
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 5:26pm
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apology? accepted and sorry if i came off as mean
i would never waste tippmanns money by making them replace parts i broke...but schiels sporting goods store is a different story-guns under warenty-no questions asked
if i cant get it working, ill take the toothpick out-its a two second job-and go back to tossing firecrackers to make up for lack of airborne paint
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 10 February 2005 at 11:52am
in case anyone wants to try it themselves-please note-i have no
idea how it would work with HP-i use CO2 with no regulator or
low pressure system
maybe this will help clarify what i did to the sear
1. remove the handgrip and then trigger mechanism
2. pull side casing off of trigger mechanism-it should come
easy-its the steel plate the sandwiches the trigger and springs
3. theres a slot-about 2 cm long and as thick as a toothpick (i
used what i had at hand)-find the slot
4. push the sear catch (its on top and goes down every time
you pull the trigger) forward
5.break a toothpick or something that will fit in the slot so that it
is as long/wide as the trigger mechanism frame (so once u put
the pick in the trigger casing still fits on)
6. while the sear is in forward position, place the toothpick in
the slot so it holds the sear forward in the slot
7. reassemble trigger and gun
8 cock gun-then pull back handle all the way back, hold the
trigger, and let go-the bolt should fly foward
9. try it out with short bursts of air-it may freeze up your gun in
cold weather
Attempt at your own risk-IT MAY DAMAGE YOUR GUN-it hasnt
hurt mine at all, but i dont want anyone breaking their gun
from time to time, you may need to put in a new piece of
toothpick
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Posted By: Brainless_Fool
Date Posted: 10 February 2005 at 12:01pm
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Is this toothpick wooden or plastic?
I have a 98 Custom so I don't know how it would work. I think my Qloader can handle 60 bps but everyone says its 30bps.
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 10 February 2005 at 6:43pm
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i just tossed in a piece of wooder toothpick-normal round toothpick-but i think plastic would work better
let me know if you try it
ps...if you try it, dont run paint through it unless u wanna strip ur gun down to clean it out
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Posted By: frontman
Date Posted: 10 February 2005 at 8:30pm
i agree dont do it it will ruin your internals i was going to do it but my frineds were right u guys know who u are but listen to the people who said put it back in (the sear)
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 10 February 2005 at 8:54pm
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frontman wrote:
i agree dont do it it will ruin your internals i was going to do it but my frineds were right u guys know who u are but listen to the people who said put it back in (the sear) |
if i pick up the gun, im carrying the sear-understand????
i didnt take the sear out!!!!!
the sear is still in my gun-and it still does its job
ruin my internals?? name one part i'll bust and give me decent reason why it will damage that part
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Posted By: B_Wet A-5
Date Posted: 10 February 2005 at 10:05pm
DM5man wrote:
60 BPS I'll believe it when I see it | wut he said.
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Posted By: B_Wet A-5
Date Posted: 10 February 2005 at 10:07pm
DM5man wrote:
60 BPS I'll believe it when I see it | wut he said
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 11 February 2005 at 11:19am
b_wet A-5 get out
you tellin me you dont believe it doesnt do me any good-
undersatand?
if you dont believe me try it
if you refuse to try it then believe me cause ive tried it
if you wont do it yourself, and you choose to ignore the
evidence, then go play in traffic
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