What do you believe in?
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Topic: What do you believe in?
Posted By: Brainless_Fool
Subject: What do you believe in?
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 11:04pm
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I believe in God, but not like anyone else does. I think he shed a bit of himself off to make the whole universe, and since the universe isn't attached to It, it is kind of like mortal and unholy. (I don't refer to God as "Him" but as an "It"). I believe in Jesus and his teachings, but only as a messenger of God, not really God itself. I also believe that the Bible shouldn't be read so literally because some of it differs from what actual science and real life has proven, but as a collection of stories that can teach us lessons about how we should be and stuff. I believe God made humans using evolution as a ladder, humans being at the top of that hierachial ladder and God and Its followers hovering above them all. Post your beliefs and discuss! ------------- Who loves the chocolate? Everyone loves the chocolate. Nobody hates the chocolate. 'Cos everyone loves the chocolate. |
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 11:06pm
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Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 11:06pm
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I'm an atheist. ------------- __________________ __________________ |
Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 11:07pm
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choopie911 wrote:Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 11:08pm
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Agnostic, more towards science. ------------- http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/857/sig9ac6cs1mj.jpg - |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 11:09pm
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If I were to believe that a "God" existed I would imagine it as force/energy rather than a being. ------------- 
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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 11:16pm
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I Belive in nothing, There is no god, there is no Religion, there is no
science... Its just there, nothing more nothing less, we try to answer
to lifes questions WHY were here when it's as simple as "We just are,
and nothing put us/made(us) here"
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Posted By: DracoPlasm
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 11:27pm
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Im christian believe in god believes hes a him believe he made us ------------- 
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Posted By: Liquid3
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 11:27pm
| I Don't like the religious or political machine. They're all just salesman selling you a dubious bill of goods and taking your money in return for nothing but promises. |
Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 11:28pm
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Posted By: newport
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 11:28pm
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I'm in the market
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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 11:53pm
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I'm a Christian. I believe that Jesus came to Earth do die for our sins and that if we believe that we will go to Heaven. I find it very hard to believe that we evolved from apes.. ------------- 
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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 11:56pm
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I believe that there is a god, because i think we all had to come from somewhere. -me ------------- 
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 02 February 2005 at 11:59pm
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God. If we evolved from apes, then why are there still apes? |
Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 12:01am
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" Which came first? The chicken or the egg?" Whatever came first, i think god put it there. -me -------------
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 12:09am
| That did not answer my question of why there are still apes around today... |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 12:14am
The tobacco and cotton budworms were once the same species, now they are two different species and both exist today. EDIT : I am christian, but I beleive in evolution and the big bang as God's way of creating life and earth. ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: themovielife
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 12:15am
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Posted By: Death~By~Paint
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 12:24am
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i belive in explosives
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 12:56am
Divergent Evolution. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 1:16am
Maybe it hasnt been long enought since the split for them to become extinct yet.... -------------
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Posted By: tippy_182
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 6:52am
Name one ------------- 
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Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 7:08am
Single two parents to the human race, resurrection (multiple times), turning water to wine, splitting of Red Seas, the plagues are iffy, that infamous deduction of the Earth's age, pregnant virgin (assuming you believe that the "virgin" didn't merely mean "girl" before translation), and many others. Though, I'm sure someone will come through all these and explain some unbelievable way in which the above events are possible. And I do realize that not all denominations take the Bible literally. Since you're one for challenging beliefs, Tippy, I just have to ask you exactly what makes you think the Bible is worth the same or more than a history book (as far as that type of information goes)... ------------- __________________ __________________ |
Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 10:27am
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I believe there is something, that created the earth and universe, a
hiher power if you will, but I don't believe in the afterlife.
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 11:28am
| Rational thought. And science. |
Posted By: jimbob_07
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 12:03pm
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Thats how i believe he couldn't have said it any better! ------------- JESUS IS MY SALVATION! blk 98c 14" whisper 14" quiet riot exp. chamber remote carbine stock |
Posted By: Betterdays
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 1:26pm
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First of all, humans did not evolve from apes or monkeys. Humans and all modern primates are cousins. We share a common, now long extinct, ancestor. Next, science and religion are not competing forces where you have the choice of picking one or the other. You must have a seperate, and different, reaction to both. Science is a method for comprehending how the world around us operates. You either understand it or you don't. There is no belief involved. Religion is about trying to comprehend the unknowable and give greater meaning to life. This is all about belief, since you can never really know whether its true or not (at least while you're alive.) Its a small but critical distinction. I understand science...but still believe there might be some higher power. |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 2:25pm
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I dont believe in anything....Just doesnt make sense to me. ------------- 
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 2:29pm
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Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 2:30pm
| Sure, I believe in god. Church irks me, however. I also believe in evolution. |
Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 2:33pm
Wrong... It has been scientifically proven that the Red Seas thing could have happened. It may have been caused by a volcanic eruption/earthquake. (I don't believe this, but all you science people can see that it is real). And the Earth's age thing... Some scholars believe there is a very long gap between Genesis 1 and 2. This is supposedly when the dinosours(sp?) lived. That I believe. |
Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 2:36pm
| im a realist. I do believe that humans evolded from apes. but there were many different species of humans before us. homo ecetus, neantertal and others. look it up. But i do believe that god created the first organism that inhabit the earth. How else would have it gotten here. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 2:40pm
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Link?
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Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 2:48pm
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What Clark said. To the Christians here. Tell me one thing. Why do you
believe in god. And the Bible. And so on. If you lived by yourself and
never talked to a single person you would not even know religion
existed. So that means someone must be the cause of your belief. Just
curious, but why? Because someone told you, and you just flat out
believed them? ------------- I need a new Sig... |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 3:28pm
| Athiest, I believe in science, fact, accident, coincidence, chance, and luck. |
Posted By: B_Wet A-5
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 3:30pm
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i believe in GOd and in jeseus but i do not think that he created the universe. its also hard to believe that he created life if he did. ------------- I need smallers sigs. AVIATOR GANG 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 3:41pm
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The bible, isnt supposed to say that Jesus is god, nore god incarnet, the word they use for jesus in the greek bible is "Logos" this means word of god. As in he speaks for god. Not IS god.. The bible is full of these errors in translation that radicaly change meansings of scripture. Things like the virgin mary, its doubtful she was a vergin, the name for virgin and girl are the same in hebrew. They both mean "young girl" and "virgin" Also, the word for "day" "Month" "Year" "Week" are all the same. The word used in the bible is most closely translated to "length of time" Not day. If you want to take the bibe literaly, your best bet is to learn greek or latin and read a very old bible. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors"> 
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 3:52pm
| There are some people on here who would disagree with your interpretation of scripture, dibi... |
Posted By: Slimz.357
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 3:55pm
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Guess I have to bring out the all time favorite piss-off-the-aithests answer: Faith I am an analytical person by nature. I beleive in science, logic, and natural law. That said, when I see a science that cannot even agree with itself on where it came from, I am forced to come the conclusion that the alternative, however unlikely, is true. Mankind lives in a cycle of arogance. I beleive in a sovereign God through Faith. I don't think it gets much simpler than that. ------------- "If you make it idiot proof, they'll make a better idiot." http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=125287&PN=1&TPN=1 - REQUIRED READING |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 3:57pm
| You're last one doesn't match. There has always been a substantial belief in a god. Regardless of whose god it is, your last should read Man KNEW that a god existed.... |
Posted By: Slimz.357
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 3:58pm
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Just try it on for size. You might like it. ------------- "If you make it idiot proof, they'll make a better idiot." http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=125287&PN=1&TPN=1 - REQUIRED READING |
Posted By: slacker guy
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 4:45pm
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i beleave in god but i also beleve we were put here to ENJOY
ourselves and not be wrapped up in all the religous extemest and christion conservitiv crap ------------- 
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Posted By: AdmiralSenn
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 4:45pm
Insert disclaimer here: These are my views, and I'm not going to debate them because I plan to start a topic about something very similar where that will be possible, and I'd rather not hijack this thread. If there's something I say that you want to argue, PM me or wait till that thread, because I might just quote myself anyway. This doesn't mean I'm trying to cut off criticism, just that there's no point in debating someone's *opinion* when there's going to be an opportunity to debate *facts* later. I believe I have explained one of many reasons in Regs.. I've been through some seriously strange crap that I cannot conceive of as anything but the work of God. I have seen and known people who have been healed immediately after prayer, who have healed others. Ever seen the 'slaying in the Spirit' thing on TV, where the pastor prays with someone and they fall over, unconscious? I've been both the person falling over and the person praying, and no it was not the result of my mind anticipating it and knocking me out (an extremely weak theory on why this happened that wouldn't hold up even if it was possible in my case). Yes, if I lived totally alone, in a vacuum with no contact with other people, I would not know anything about God. And? In Genesis, God walks with Adam and Eve personally, so they had firsthand experience. They passed it on to their kids after the fall, and God appeared to some people (or sent an angel) in different places. Then of course Jesus came, and he had thousands of followers and 12 (then 11, then 12 again) apostles who spread his story. Of course, there's always the chance that God would appear to a person in total isolation, but they'd be labeled as insane if they told anyone (assuming they ever had anyone to tell). I do not believe in God simply because I was told to, or raised to. Although that certainly helped a lot, I would not have the faith or conviction to even do something as cowardly as posting anonymously on the Internet, much less talk to my friends about God. I believe as strongly as I do after my own reasoning and experiences. And if you think my experiences are odd or possibly drug-induced, that's fine. I know that they're very weird (I say they because there's a lot more that takes forever to explain), and I thought so too even at the time. My stories aren't even the weird ones. When I get to the ones that my friends have told me (yes, I know, hearsay, but I would trust these people with my life - and I don't say that lightly), REALLY weird stuff starts happening. There are stories of people I know witnessing healings - pray for somebody and suddenly they can walk again. There is a lot of incredibly cool and really strange stuff that people I know experience, and I'd have to be the world's most extreme skeptic or a total idiot to not believe in God afterwards. Of course, the funny part is that you have to believe in God by faith first.. with few exceptions, God doesn't let people have the kind of experiences that leave no doubt in their minds unless they believe by faith alone. The hardest bit about Christianity is that it's humbling. Praying to somebody you've never seen and acknowledging that you've sinned is not easy or fun. It's not something you'd want to do, and every time I pray and think about the stuff I've done wrong I feel like total crap. I'm pretty sure that even if there was indisputable proof that God exists as the BIble says, most of the people on this forum who 'just don't believe it' or 'believe only in science' or say 'zomg im not dumb lol jesus esh 4 luzers' would still refuse to accept Jesus, because of pride. I can easily see it happening (heck, had I been raised differently, it'd be a problem with me, and sometimes is anyway). What I don't understand is how people can be so opposed to Christianity. You know how Enos always says "I'm not believing in something just because some guy in a funny hat says to" or something similar? Guess what: I agree completely. Large religious groups are problematic - Crusades, Nazis (the Third Reich was supposedly Catholic), etc. But you don't need any of that. All you do is ask Jesus to forgive you for sinning, and you have eternal life. Even assuming every single Christian since Jesus walked the earth has been a total moron with no idea of reality, would it do any harm to try it? I'm speaking hypothetically here, I don't expect anyone to actually give reasons why it's bad. Just expressing my point of view, accept it or don't. I know what I believe to be true as surely as I know that I'm living in America or that I'm a homo sapiens sapiens . ------------- Is God real? You'll find out when you die. 
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 4:55pm
Ooops, I meant it was proven to be possible that it was parted by a volcanic eruption that caused a tsunami.  And saw it on the discovery channel |
Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 4:57pm
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Posted By: Slimz.357
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 5:03pm
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^^^ ------------- "If you make it idiot proof, they'll make a better idiot." http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=125287&PN=1&TPN=1 - REQUIRED READING |
Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 5:12pm
Of course, you don't believe it was volcanoes, do you? ------------- __________________ __________________ |
Posted By: nforcer4
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 5:13pm
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Ok the greeks and romans or what ever all believed in there
gods to explain what happens and they were proven wrong gods don't make
rain it's the water cycle and all that junk i bet in 300 years ppl will
be laughing at us well not me i don't beleive they laugh at your for
believing in a god. Theres no way an invisable force made matter and life that's stupid...... |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 5:19pm
I know a lady that wrote a book about her doing a lot of these thigns. Its called "Chasing the Dragon" A great book. A good read ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: MT. Vigilante
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 5:25pm
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Jesus does exist, he is still alive because he rose from the dead, I could go on for days about all the scientific and historic evidence of this, but to save time I suggest you all just talk to a pastor or go to a church on sunday. As for all this nonsens about just being a good person and not believing in Jesus and youll still go to heaven, just listen to John 3:16 " For God loved the worled so much, that he gave his only son so that whoever believes in him will not die but have ever lasting life." and also the words of Jesus himself, " I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one may go to the father but through me." In other words, you have to believe in him and fallow his words and commandments in order to go to heven, and here is some proof of this; deamons believe in God and Jesus and they fear him, but they are doomed to hell because they choose not to fallow Jesus. Also, the third riech was not catholic, Hitler created his own strang religeon based on old Norse paganism, he just didn't persecute the catholics because many of them still pledged thier alegence to him. -------------  Join the XP Re-Revolution!
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 5:28pm
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Deamons are fallen angels that rebeled against god. Thats why they arent in heaven. But its true that jesus is the way to heaven, but i dont think he is the only way, the scripture does say you are responsable for what you know, meaning, babies or small children will not go to hell. And on a personal note, there is a level of comfort you get from surrendering to a higher power. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 5:28pm
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I have time. Please tell me about all of the scientific evidence. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 5:30pm
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I believe in jesus. But i am curious about his scientific evidence, i try to be open minded, i want to hear this. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 5:35pm
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Posted By: MT. Vigilante
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 5:38pm
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Babies do not go to hell because they are not matuerd (not sure of the spelling) enogh to know they are sinners, this is the same reason Adam and Eve whould not die and go to hell before they ate the fruit, they had no knowledge of sin, and yes the Bible does say that we are all sinners from the day we are born because of adam and eve's sin, only the aceptance of Jesus as our lord and savior can save us from that sin. As for the scientific evidence, you will have to give me a little while to get home, I have a tun of it but right now I am at my school's library so I will Be back later. ------------- Join the XP Re-Revolution!
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Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 5:40pm
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Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 5:45pm
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I should have known that upon posting my question, everyone that
answered would totally respond to a totally different question that I
didnt ask.. Im saying. If people had no way to know anything about
religion and had no way for anybody to tell them a thing about it. They
would not believe in god because they had never been told about god.
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 5:54pm
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"If you want to know, just go talk to a pastor or go to church?" Hmm, because you wouldn't get a biased answer there would you? |
Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 5:59pm
And seeing as how I didn't mention it before. I am atheist.------------- I need a new Sig... |
Posted By: slipknot 555
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 6:11pm
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I am 150% Catholic. I think all the scientific stuff saying we evolved from apes is just **edited** horse **edited**. if we did evolve from apes, why do apes still exist? {i kno somewon already said that but its how i feel} ------------- We wont Die 
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Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 6:17pm
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Pretend I never posted my first two posts please. They are worded so very wrong from what I was going for.
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 6:23pm
Yeah i know, but thats not what i was getting at, i was getting at a person living in the wild having no knowledge of god would not be damned. The bible says you are responsible for what you know, if you come to see god and reject him, that is a different story. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 6:27pm
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So basically, you ask a question, knowing that it has already been answered, but are determined to ignore that answer? Well done. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 6:30pm
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I think we evolved from apes. But why are people making a big deal about it. Its not like we cant evolve from apes and be gods creation at the same time. Who knows that evolving from apes was gods way of creating man. Someone that really belives god took some dust and made a man. And a woman from a rib is just.. It makes my head hurt. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: tippy_182
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 6:43pm
And none of your points have been proven fully wrong. There are just as many theories on how they are right as their are they are wrong. I love how an old book can talk about the red sea parting, and then us thousands of years later finding roman armor do in the bottom of it. And how bout them fish fossils found on top of Mount Kilimanjaro, I wonder how the could have got up there? (Maybe a little flood that covered every mountaintop) And I need not even mention the thousands of prophecies that were set years and years before Jesus was ever born, and Jesus fufilled every single one. And Apu, I believe because of the many things I have seen proven, and when you are a christian and have devoted your life to God, its not like alot of people say and your following a blind faith. You have a relationship with him and he lets you know what you think is true and when your wrong about certain points. -------------
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Posted By: tippy_182
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 6:56pm
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Bump
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Posted By: eaglesin05
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 7:07pm
I'm an athiest. I'm too smart to believe in god .
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Posted By: tippy_182
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 7:14pm
Your so incredibly stupid, you don't even deserve to be debated with. -------------
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 7:46pm
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Tipp_182, also in all fairness, it woulda been egyption armor under the red sea. And mount kilamonjaro wasnt always a mountain, it was flat at one point and was raised due to presure of tectonic plates pushing together causing land to rise. If there were fish foscils there to begin with. Its perfectly logical to find them there. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Betterdays
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 8:11pm
Actually, you would be mirror images of one another, assuming one of you wasn't obviously being humorous and the other an overly sensitive 'tard. "Being to smart to believe in God" is a foolish statement because smart has nothing to do with God. Belief in God by definition and design is an act of faith...there can never be objective proof. If God does not exist then there obviously can't be any and if he does exist, he would never allow any. You have to choose to believe without knowing...that's the point. Now as for being stupid, Tippy_182 your mis-understanding of scienctific facts is staggering. Assuming there actually are fish fossils on Kilimanjaro, they got there through Plate Tectonics and lots and lots of time. (Kudos to DBibeau855 for beating me to it) If you put all the water on earth in liquid form it would not submerge kilimanjaro, not to mention that the biblical flood wasn't anywhere near long enough ago to generate fossils anyway. And since I'm posting, I'll take the time to repeat myself regarding the "why are Apes still around?" crowd. Since it keeps coming up over and over...
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Posted By: tippy_182
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 8:18pm
I didn't see any sarcasm, my fault if thats how it was intended. And it would take millions of years to form a mountain the size of Mount Kilimanjaro, and there is no for sure date on how long the world has been around. And what point was Debieua(sp) trying to prove with the soldiers armor? Not trying to delibrately misunderstand, but I don't get it. But I'm sure they probably could have been pushed in and could have drowned.... /sarcasm. Edit-- They found the Chariot Wheels and carraiges to. -------------
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Posted By: Betterdays
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 8:26pm
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Tippy_182, since you took the tiime to make a serious reply, you deserve one in return. I assumed the laughing smiley face in Eaglesin05's post was a pretty clear indicator that even if he is an aethiest, he wasn't looking for a fight. I don't understand your comment about Kilimanjaro...my only reply would be yes it took millions of years. As for the armor being Egyptian...it was Egyptian soldiers not Romans who were consumed in the story of Moses and the parting of the Red Sea...hence why it would be Egyptian armor. |
Posted By: nouseforaname
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 8:28pm
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I believe in Santa ... fo sho ------------- http://tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=139343&PN=1 - My Sick A4 Fly 
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Posted By: Brainless_Fool
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 9:23pm
What I am talking about here is about the kind of information you would see in the Book of Genesis; the week of non-stop creation until everything was made in an order that contradicts what science has proven (I forgot the order as described in the Bible but I know that science has shown us that sea critters came before land critters and after that came air critters and before all the critters there were plants). The Book of Revelations intrigues me, but I know that most of it seems very unlikely. ALTHOUGH! The whole "fiery mountain (basically an early interpretation of a descending asteroid) falling from the sky to pollute the waters with red blood and kill 1/3 of the critters" and the "demon insect invasion sent only to do torture to sinners" is awesome and could happen. At least the fiery mountain falling from the heavens one could happen. ------------- Who loves the chocolate? Everyone loves the chocolate. Nobody hates the chocolate. 'Cos everyone loves the chocolate. |
Posted By: ifull98
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 10:54pm
Agree 100% 
What hope is there for life if you refuse to believe in heaven? I see life as kind of a test for us. It is only the precursor to eternity and accepting Christ as our sacrafice is how we pass. ------------- Real Newspaper Headlines: Crack Found on Governor's Daughter Astronaut Takes Blame for Gas in Spacecraft Something Went Wrong in Jet Crash, Expert Says |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 10:57pm
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What do you mean by this? |
Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 11:01pm
I am sure I could twist it to relate to Armageddon and how everyone who doesn't believe will be destroyed...or something. But sleep calls. Or maybe he means if you don't believe you will be stricken down where you stand at some random, inconvienent point in the future.. ---RANDOM yet related--- JOB: A Comedy of Justice, by Robert Heinlein. Such a good book. ------------- 
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Posted By: ifull98
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 11:08pm
Sorry, maybe i should have clarified. Ahem. I, for one, believe that when you die you are either saved and spend eternity in heaven, or are not saved and spend eternity in hell. If you don't believe in any afterlife (that you just lay in the ground and rot when you die) then this life is all you have got and you better make the most of it. But dont you find it depressing that you will cease to exist when you die? Doesn't it seem like life was all for nothing? ------------- Real Newspaper Headlines: Crack Found on Governor's Daughter Astronaut Takes Blame for Gas in Spacecraft Something Went Wrong in Jet Crash, Expert Says |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 11:14pm
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Maybe, but not necessarily. If I don't believe in an afterlife then, as you say, you make the most of your life. That's a good thing, right? Is it sad that it will end? Sure, mostly. But hey - it is what it is. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 03 February 2005 at 11:15pm
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Excellent book, unless blasphemy offends you... :)
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