INVASION!!!
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Topic: INVASION!!!
Posted By: duckncover21
Subject: INVASION!!!
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 10:50pm
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You know what I was thinking about? If a foreign power were to invade the U.S. there would be no chance of succeding unless they nuked us. I mean, just think, those crazy suckers would land in their parachutes and stuff like something out of the movie Red Dawn and then all the people from places like Texas and Alabama and places like that would be like, "What the hell??!!!" Then they would get their guns and would go crazy!!! The invading force would be fighting not only the thousands in the military, but also the millons of civilians that we have. I know this is a pretty useless topic but I just figured I would state my mind. It would be pretty crazy if it happened!! ------------- Sectional football games have the glory and despair of war, and when a Texas team takes the field against a foreign state, it's an army with banners!! Hook'em Horns!!! |
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Posted By: DrexelSkaPB
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 10:56pm
Yeah it is kind of useless  . But your right, they'd have a tough time. Don't forget: just like the problem pretty much every country that invaded Russia had; the land area is too great, supply lines stretched, manpower too dispersed.
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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 10:56pm
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well if that wasnt the most random thing like, ever, i dont know what was... ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 10:59pm
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The US has something like 3 or 4 million males capablie of combat, China has something like 2 or 3 hundred million. However I do not know how technologically advanced they are so we might beat them there. ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: duckncover21
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 10:59pm
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I know, it just came to me... ------------- Sectional football games have the glory and despair of war, and when a Texas team takes the field against a foreign state, it's an army with banners!! Hook'em Horns!!! |
rockerdoode wrote:Posted By: MROD
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 11:04pm
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China never really was ahead on the technology but they dop take the cake when it comes to manpower. ------------- I need to find smaller pictures for my profile. |
Posted By: DrexelSkaPB
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 11:11pm
| Darur: From what I understand, the Chinese' military technology is more advanced than many nations (not the US!), however they lack it in great quantity. Consider the Korean War. A US Marine Division held off a 3 Chinese Armies (which = a lot of divisions), while they retreated from the Chosin Reservoir. They survived with not very high casualties because of artillery and air superiority, something any nation won't have in the US because they're so far from any of their bases. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 11:13pm
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Makes me think of "They are little people...You can take em..." I love that seen for some reason, hate the movie, but i dunno its kinda funny. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors"> 
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Posted By: SebastianBlack
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 11:30pm
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that would be the shortest invasion in history
Chinese soldiers wouldnt have a home to go home to. They would have a pile of melted glass where china once was. that and they would have to take a portion of mexico or canada to successfully attack us with any real man power. ------------- FFKFASOFAA Erst wenn die Wolken schlafengehn kann man uns am Himmel sehn wir haben Angst und sind allein Gott weiss ich will kein Engel sein |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 11:31pm
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Yeah, also, they would be supporting a huge army from very far away. The lagistics alone would be a battle i think. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 11:38pm
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It would take a quarter million boats just to get their army here... Never gonna happen. ------------- 
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Posted By: SebastianBlack
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 11:42pm
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Scratch that, Theres one country that would trash us.
Australia. Project Metal Storm, Nuff said. 1 million rounds per minute. ------------- FFKFASOFAA Erst wenn die Wolken schlafengehn kann man uns am Himmel sehn wir haben Angst und sind allein Gott weiss ich will kein Engel sein |
Posted By: Project Irene
Date Posted: 05 February 2005 at 11:44pm
| Yes, if the battle is brought here, it won't be with infantry, that's for sure. |
Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 12:25am
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In a hundred years or so, China, Japan, and India will be more technologically advanced then us.
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Posted By: SebastianBlack
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 12:36am
------------- FFKFASOFAA Erst wenn die Wolken schlafengehn kann man uns am Himmel sehn wir haben Angst und sind allein Gott weiss ich will kein Engel sein |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 12:49am
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Nice one Seb...lol....Anyway, China may have a 50 million man army but
they have no way of ever getting it here. I agree, that the only way
anyone could ever invade would be to nuke the general population or
maybe bio/chem weapons but even if they did there would be absolutely
no way they would ever maintain any sort of power here. Americans don't
like to be told what to do.
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Posted By: Belt #2
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 12:59am
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It's called: "Fanatical Christianity."
Yeah... ------------- Most importantly - People suck. |
Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 1:05am
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The invasion would never make it to America. It would be stopped in it's tracks and our allies would assist in destroying the fleet that brought them here. ------------- 
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Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 1:21am
Dont we have a similar project in the works? I remember hearing something about US troops possibly recieving it in Afgahnistan and Iraq. ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 4:26am
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well, it would just give us a reason to take out the commies...but whatever. I highly doubt the chinese have any brains they should attack us right as we're in preperation to invade the next arab country that didnt do anything(Iran). We'd be totally defensless to like, almost everything...but then again...its hard not to see over a million boats with chinese people with guns on it... ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 7:25am
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Yeah, I see North Korea doing something like that when we go into Syria
or Iran or whatever country that dart lands on next. We can barely keep
up with what we're doing so I think if they invaded the south with one
big blitz where in they killed most of the Americans on the penninsula
and secured all of the major cities within a few days we couldn't stop
them and we'd be hard pressed to do anything after the fact.
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 8:14am
Yea, just making nuclear energy, no biggie.  |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 9:01am
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Assuming the Chinesse could get here and keep the army supplied, I think they would roll over us. The Chineese would have a helluva time just getting here because of the US navy ( http://diodon349.com/Torpedoman/Mk48_Torpedo_images/tn_Mk48-3.jpg - see this ). I doubt that the US would use nuclear weapons because of M.A.D. ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: St. Jimmy
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 9:27am
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Well Saudi Arabians only caused 9/11. I guess that's bo biggie either. |
Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 9:56am
This country will throw all the rules out the window when it gets attacked. We'll do anything for self preservation. ------------- 
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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 10:21am
japan probly already is, they make all the electronics and good looking street cars. china i duno, they make evrything out of plastic. and india eats yellow rice. that should say enuf about them ------------- 
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 10:32am
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Project metal storm? Nevermind. http://www.metalstorm.com/04_technology_demo.html Wow. ------------- |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 10:49am
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Do you know what M.A.D. is?
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Posted By: DrexelSkaPB
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 11:26am
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.Ryan: North Korea would have a terribly hard time invading South Korea. We have 40,000 of the most highly equipped troops in Korea + a Marine Division based on Okinawa (a day away) + the entire US 7th Fleet in Yokosuka, Japan + B-52's from Guam + ... Not to mention the few hundred thousands of R.O.K troops and reserves, and Japanese troops less than 500 miles away. |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 11:29am
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Lets look at this from a Chinese point of view, a strategic plan to invade America.
1. First destroy the economic potential and industrial base. (many heavy industrial plants and industries essential to defense productions have moved offshore or have shut down, America is an import nation as oppased to a export nation, stop the flow of cheap goods to the US and we have no readyt plan to replace the production leading to economic destruction) 2. Destroy the "will" of the American people, by political means. Generate political divisions of race, religion, economic, and other means to reek havoc within the American political system. 3. Dissarm the American populace by political means, gun regestration/ confiscation laws, abolish 2nd admendment. 4. Establish bases within America under the cover of industrial facilities. Establish a useable port of entry for initial covert operations (Long Beach,CA) 5. Destroy world opinion of America by political means, and begin to fight proxy wars to further issue. 6. Steal or buy required military technology, and by political and legal means slow American progress in fields of military and industrial technology. 7. Take control of trade routes (Panama Canal) to prevent commerce and naval movement once war initiates. Military Operations 1. Increase commercial Air Traffic flights to establish normal attention to Chinese Air Traffic. 2. Begin to export heavy industrial products and automobiles on large "car carriers" and increase traffic again to establish a norm. 3. Prestage equipment in US by use of commercial trade containers shipped and spoted to major strategic points. 4. Begin infiltration of covert operators using lax immigration laws and illegal means across borders, use proxy agents if needed to instigate confussion and detract from needed infiltration. 5. Begin acts in form of "terrorist acts" to disrupt law enforcement, and military reaction, and begin the pyscological war. 6. Load "car carriers" with heavy fighting vehicles, troops and close support aircraft, and sail with "schedules" to unload at a uniform time at the major ports. 7. Load your major Chinese flagged air carriers with airborne troops, again scheduled to arrive at a uniform time at the various major us air hubs. With overflights and drops over major US Air Force bases, we do have very lax air control over these areas. 8. At given time, knock out commercial communications and power grids with prestaged spec opns troops. 9. Air drops at US airforce bases (USAF security forces not geared to fight large hostile combat forces). Destroy ability of US air assets to take off and thier support base. 10. Land and occupy major air hubs. 11. Begin unload of ships and occupation major ports and cities. 12. Give US nuclear ultimatnum, if you use we (Chinese) have prestaged nuc/bio/chem weapons at all major US population centers, and will begin before your weapons stike china. (Understand that there are no means to bring a major US ground combat force into play on the continental in under 72 hours, and NG and Reserve initial ammo supply situation makes them useless for at least 96 hours) Under the confussion of power and communication outage, initial chinese forces destroy US air power, occupy major port facilities, and air hubs to bring in follow on forces. Chinese troops occupy major cities facing only police and some citizen resistance, a no quarter order given to chinese troops, to physcologically limit resistance. I could go on... ------------- 
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Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 11:39am
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^What he said^ For the chineese to win they would have to win political support of the american people. ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 12:00pm
Word. -------------
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Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 12:13pm
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The US does not need to lose support of its people. I think if the Chineese did invade, the US civilian looting and rioting would kill the war effort for the US. I also think that some people Who hate bush in a severe way would would join the chineese and/or sabotage the war effort. ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: BuffaloSolda1
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 12:57pm
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Posted By: DrexelSkaPB
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 1:17pm
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Technically, it's true. In my class of 600 or so engineering majors, about 150 are foreigners, a sizeable chunk are from India, plus a lot of professors and TA's. They're also the ones with the highest GPA's |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 4:30pm
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This should've been a poll ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: St. Jimmy
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 5:30pm
O yeah I'm sure the people who hate bush would really rather have America destroyed and would help the Communists take over our country and kill American boys doing thier duty. |
Posted By: slipknot 555
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 5:32pm
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if a foreign force tried to invade the u.s, especially in the south, they would meet their death by a mob of angry rednecks/teenagers, it would be fun.
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Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 6:24pm
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We would totaly kill them. It would rock.
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Posted By: Koolit32
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 7:03pm
CHINESE. |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 7:20pm
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I know this isn't really a serious post but who cares. Looking at Oldsoldiers post I wonder how he thinks any of that could be done by the chinese government. How is the Chinese governement going to disarm our country? How are the going to destroy the will of the american people? I could see them doing it with planned drops into air bases and whatnot, but how are they actually going to do that? We have radar stations on the other side of the world and if they were attacked I doubt noone would get a message through. Now let's take the D-day invasion for example. On the way in the airborne divisions were beat to hell and everyone knew an invasion started. This probably wouldn't happen to chinese airborne because we are not in a homeland war, but that is not my point. My point is someone would get a message to washington who would start sending eastern, midwestern, and southern reserve and guard units. I am dumb and don't know if Pearl Harbor is still a large naval base, but if it is they could come and attack any naval forces left lingering after the invasion. Add that to the fact if we were invaded I would join the army and I think anyone would be allowed to carry a gun (even young kids, like 14). ------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 7:23pm
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Maybe we do not understand the concept here. A hostile takeover by a large Chinese military on American shores where the enemy has no need to fight by any rules, and by pure attrition they can sustain losses in the millions is possible, as it has been a hypothetical war collage exercise several times and each time we lose in a matter of months. (only win is the doomsday scenario, for since they preplace WMD's before any invasion, if we launch they detonate the preplaced weapons, and thier population can again sustain losses we can not.)
Mass executions, draconian control measures, genocide on a scale never seen, and the Chinese would not need Americans to populate the conquered territories, they have enough population of thier own to ship over to replace us. Chinese military officials have hinted at various "war plans" to replace us as the dominant military power in the world, and if they progress at the rate they have since 1949, we will be surpassed not soon into the future. And it is true we are losing our technological edge, as well as economic edge to Chinese interests. Our education level is dropping, where theirs is climbing, try and find any US made electronic, clothing, or major consumer goods in your local Walmart, our dollar is falling against the Euro, and we are a pure import economy, for we shipped the majority of our industrial base overseas. -------------
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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 7:38pm
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How would the Chinese go about getting these millions and millions of soldiers to the U.S.? If they came by boat, we would know days in advance. If they came by air, we would know many hous in advance. They couldnt possibly get all of their troops here to invade before we knew about it. -------------
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 7:38pm
| Miniturization. |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 7:39pm
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To address the jmac3 post.
We are by ourselves helping the initial stage. By enacting gun control then confiscation laws we disarm the American people. And then we do not have the ability to form an "Armed and Confident Civil Militia" as intended by our forefathers. Increased commercial air traffice by civil chinese air carriers will establish a norm in heavier flow of incoming Chinese commercial aircraft. This will lull our defense posture since the incommin invasion aircraft will be on established civil air routes and at levels previously seen so no alarm. The Chinese as themselves do not care what happens to the American populace, and can if so desired start a genocidal program immediately after the initial invasion and replace our population with their own. The exercise I stated was a hypothetical War Collage exercise and the Nationalist Chinese Generals and Admirals playing the Communist Generals used the exact idea, increased commercial air and sea traffic to lull us into a norm, preplaced WMD's to deter our use of WMD's on thier homeland. The initial invasion was commercial aircraft on established routes dropping paratroops on major US airbases, then landing with remainder at major US commercial air hubs. Chinese commercial car carriers, and other heavy shipping again seen in larger numbers as the norm begin unloading heavy follow on forces securing major pacific and atlantic ports. Major on continent US armed forces need at least 72 hours for full combat logistical preparedness, and National Guard and Reserve at least 96 hours, that is our established readiness norm since the cold war. Our major at sea units will be harrased by a new Chinese nuclear attack submarine force and long range aircraft as well as large and small anti ship missiles mounted on smaller clandestine flagged but chinese navy crewed merchant ships throughout the oceans. Never underestimate an enemy determined to fullfill their destiny as seen in their eyes. And the same level of contempt of the Japanese means and equipment abilities led to Pearl Harbor and the initial disasters up to late 1942. If the Chinese by the above method get any sizeable force on the ground in America, God help us............... -------------
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Posted By: paintballa14
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 8:40pm
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the u.s. would be hard (and i mean HARD) as hell to take over. thanks to the right to bear arms, no country would even think twice about invading us. look at september 11, if they tried to invade us, they wouldent make it far, since most u.s citizens have at least 1 gun in their house. this law is probably why america has never been invaded (while it was independant, war of 1812 doesent count). also, the chinese may have more men, but we have the technilogical edge. thed really have problems in some of the nothern border states and some of the WAY down south states, since its rednecks, hunters, and patriots. i myself would grab a gun and take out as many chinamen as I could. thoguh by the time china thinks about invading us, ill probably be in the army anyway. ------------- doesent my sig suck? |
Posted By: slacker guy
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 8:46pm
we r develping 1 of those to...dont u people watch modern marvels ------------- 
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 06 February 2005 at 9:05pm
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But we are in the middle of a sanctioned invasion already. The Mexican Government is already sending a mass civilian invasion force accross our borders, armed with all the information they need provided by their government to avoid US Border Patrols, the ability to further sap our economic assets, straining our social, financial and education systems and disrupting our political process.
This is what the Chinese call an "Invasion by proxy" and may be the initial step in a plan though probably a coinsidense instead of a actual planned act by the Chinese. Again economic and social system failure is a prerequisite to any armed invasion of any country, whether by illegal immagration or in combination with the proven ways of the past, trade embargos, political isolation of the target nation in world opinion, or surprise initial actual aerial bombardment, any weakening of economic and social structure leads to civil instability within the target nation and diverts needed assets from actual needed armed defense. Think about it, and read up on the initial German pre Sept 1939 actions be they military, economic and political in Europe. Even Rome embarked on war by first attacking the trade and economy of the target nation states. -------------
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Posted By: duckncover21
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 2:01pm
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I think its funny that people talk about disarming america. There is no way I would give up my guns. I would just say that they were stolen and that i never filed a police report. I personally own 4 guns. Two shotguns (410 and 12 gauge) and two rifles (243 and 30-30). That's not including the weapons my step-dad and my step-bro own. Also my grandpa has a house that has a bar in it and in the bar there is a 12 foot long gun cabinet filled with rifles. Also there are pistols lined up along the bottom of it. We live in Texas and it's pretty safe to say that if someone really tried to disarm us they would fail. I also know I would not hesitate to pick up my weapons and kill some chinamen. ------------- Sectional football games have the glory and despair of war, and when a Texas team takes the field against a foreign state, it's an army with banners!! Hook'em Horns!!! |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 3:12pm
| Immigration is the devil....ha. |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 5:33pm
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I agree with you, but all i hate is the cutural diffusion. ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 5:40pm
We would know months in advance. We have satellites you know. -------------
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Posted By: pballa123
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 5:43pm
I think thats exagerartion(serious spelling problem)first of all. howver, yes they have quite a few more troops than us. But we are much more technologically advbanced and would beat them,esspecially with all of our current allies and new allies. Yes, new allies because every country would side with the US and its allies because nobody wants to be under Chinese rule which would evantually happen to them if they didnt help us. Hell, maybe even France would help. On second thought, no they probably wouldnt; they would surrender. But jsut about everyone else would take our side. War with cahina though, would be a disater but unfourantely is a real possibility in the future. There would be mass deaths on every sides, a horrible economy, and an overall decrease in qulaity of life. So lets pray we never have to deal with those communist basterds. |
Posted By: duckncover21
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 6:13pm
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Last year China released info that they had 2 million men in their standing army.... so I think 2 or 3 hundred million is a little out of wack. ------------- Sectional football games have the glory and despair of war, and when a Texas team takes the field against a foreign state, it's an army with banners!! Hook'em Horns!!! |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 6:18pm
That is just standing army, the ones ready for combat now. The whole army could be 5 times that ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: duckncover21
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 6:21pm
Yea I understand that but even if it is 5 times of that it's still not 200 million. We could get 10 million people to fight for us if they invaded us. That statistic would not be outta wack. 200 million is. ------------- Sectional football games have the glory and despair of war, and when a Texas team takes the field against a foreign state, it's an army with banners!! Hook'em Horns!!! |
Posted By: Gotpaint92
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 6:35pm
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There is no way in hell any one is going to invade the US right now. Like it has been said already we have highly trained in active troops. The citizens around my city are well armed. I don't know of any one around here who doesn't have a gun or two. One of my good friends recieved like 3 guns from his grandpa and bought a walther PPK. My family has 3 guns. This is the most patriotic country in the world as far as I am concerened. There is no way any attacking force could break our will. As far as I am concerned this thread was completly stupid. there is no chance of the US being Attack without enough warning to throw back the invading force. We have sattelight imaging, spy planes, radar, and all this other **edited** the government probably has that nobody knows about. The only countrys that could possibly attack us quick enough to do any reall damage is Canada or Mexico and they are currenlty our allies ------------- Be care full! Sigs earn strikes |
Posted By: duckncover21
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 9:18pm
Why would you call my thread completely stupid when I said the same things you just said?? What the hell is up with that??!! lol ------------- Sectional football games have the glory and despair of war, and when a Texas team takes the field against a foreign state, it's an army with banners!! Hook'em Horns!!! |
Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 07 February 2005 at 10:49pm
| I don't know if China is ever going to invade the U.S., but I can see them trying to acquire more "living space" in the near future, with the crowded conditions over there. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 2:04am
| Not too long ago I read a book about these kids (in australia) who go out camping together, but when they go back to town, everything is really deserted on the outskirts and as they move closer to town, they figure out that they've been invaded by another country. Other than a few other resistance fighters, they are the only ones not captured and being held. So basicly it follows them around, trying to survive... It was interesting. |
Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 7:34am
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Sounds like an Austrailan version of Red Dawn.
I think China will invade someone in the near future, let's just hope it's not us. They'll probably do it after they can't kill off enough of their own "undesirables"(political prisoners, etc.) at a fast enough rate. |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 11:10am
| If China decided to invade. They would succeed, too much manpower, too much firepower. I'd just hope we would have allies that would try to help. |
Posted By: LastShot0330
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 1:44pm
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Jimmy geet yur gunns... ------------- [IMG]http://www.zmachars.com/emb%20patches/The-Used-Logo_P-752_small.jpg"> |
Posted By: LastShot0330
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 1:52pm
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dude i feel like bombing something now...China. Chinese people must multiply like bunnies...if so i'm going to China*
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Posted By: The_Sniper
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 1:56pm
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You obvisously know nothing of our military capabilitys. We'd completely destroy China with nukes and whatnot. Plus they have to get in somehow like every other person has said. (via Plane or ship) Though, I say BRING'EM ON. I know enough people armed to the teeth to form a small army including myself. ------------- My PB Stuff. Tippmann 98 Coustom M4 Stock M4 Style top sights Romote coiled hose G2K Richochet hopper 4-1 pod holder 3x 20 once tanks PMI Themeral mask JT Full Protection goggle system |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 2:47pm
| You severely underestimate China's technology and military power. This "rally around the flag" crap would be shoved down our throats by the millions of invaders that could easily overpower us with their weapons. Obviously you fail to realize China also has nuclear capability. |
Posted By: ItalianoGuy04
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 3:27pm
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BUT WE HAVE MORE!!!! hell if we wanted to we culd nuke the entire
earth... 2x... and thats just the nukes that us civilians know about!!!
America owns y'alll... get over it..
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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 3:49pm
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ever play the game "freedom fighers". It was if Russia won the cold war , then took over america, then a couple of rebels took back the country. great game BTW |
Posted By: Betterdays
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 4:00pm
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The Chinese military isn't even particularly formidable. They lack a blue water navy and the airlift capacity to invade Taiwan. Attacking the U.S. is a military impossibility. Here's an educational link http://www.chinatoday.com/arm/ - link And just for comparison, current Russian strengths are 19,000 Tanks, 20,000 artillery pieces and 2,600 attack helicopters. Everyone greater than the corresponding Chinese number. (14,000 tanks, 14,500 artillery, 453 helicopters.) Regarding Chinese Nuclear abilities. A direct strike by all of the chinese nuclear weapons capable of reaching America would barely de-populate the West Coast and that assume 100% success, which they wouldn't get because they have only one weapon system capable of reaching the US, an ICBM which remains largely un-tested. Can we please get over the mindless unjustified fears of the Chinese now. |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 4:04pm
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Again we missed the basic way of war by the Chinese, patience, let the enemy defeat themselves. Read up on how Mao took a small group of dedicated communists, and in 11 years took over a country of 760million in 1949, and one year later had a well trained and equiped army storm into North Korea and pushed our troops as well as UN allies back with ease till logistics caught up with them finally.
Incremental victories, political unrest, change of popular views, divide the countries populations. Each contingency surprised the US command staff during the initial war game, the utilization of increased civilian air traffic to lull us and then use the same aircraft to carry airborne troops, and we would see the incomming aircraft as normal volumn of traffic. Same with sea transport, increased civilian flagged carriers entering our waters, keep increasing the volumn, then load with invasion troops. Preplaced WMD's in america in cargo containers, look on the interstates thousands of Chinese flagged conex's on our raoads and in our cities daily. Totally takes our nuclear response out of the net. When you underestimate the enemy, understand at that point he has started to win the oncomming battle.......... -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 4:05pm
| Wow, I actually agree with OS here. |
Posted By: Betterdays
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 4:11pm
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O.S. I don't know if that post was aimed at me or not but "worst case" war games scenarios ought not to be applied to liberally to the real world. I know perfectly well why they exist and as you said "don't underestimate your enemy" which is why we have people at the pentagon running those very scenarios. It does not mean however they are the "real case." The Chinese military does not currently have the power projection to even invade Taiwan. An attack on America is pure fantasy. |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 4:15pm
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Yeah, If the chinnese want to win, they need to slowly creep in before they even declare war. ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 4:20pm
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Old topic. I think this has been posted before EDIT: ah, here it is http://tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=98814&KW - http://tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID =98814&KW |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 08 February 2005 at 4:23pm
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That war game scared the you know what out of our military command structure, they never considered the options the Nationalist Chinese Generals used, and were looking for the slug fest at sea and air before they got here they had planned on. Once the chinese airborne hit the ground, and the ports fell, the complete command structure was at a loss on what to do, for they were still in recall and deploy mode with our domestic units. A complex problem, how do we fight a foriegn invader on Aerican soil, minimize civilian casualties and property damage (lawyers will still be around if we do win and the lawsuits will start before the guns cool)
America has a tendancy to fight the next war based on the last war, we geared towards the massive tank wars against the Soviets in europe, and insurgents run rings around us till we adjust our tactics and methodology. -------------
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