No, he's got a point. There IS an accurate application of the term when one looks at the initial derivation of the word and what it entailed.

In the original sense of the word, yes, there are snipers in paintball, in exactly the context that Seb has mentioned.

The application of the evolved term is erronious however, given the more complex components of the term.

I wonder how long before I'm gonna have to lock this.

NotDaveEllis wrote: So if the snipers were sharpshooters hunting Snipes Wouldn't sharpshooters hunting paintball players be, paintballers!

Careful dave, you'll confuse the children.

Reb Cpl wrote: No, he's got a point. There IS an accurate application of the term when one looks at the initial derivation of the word and what it entailed. In the original sense of the word, yes, there are snipers in paintball, in exactly the context that Seb has mentioned. The application of the evolved term is erronious however, given the more complex components of the term. I wonder how long before I'm gonna have to lock this.

No...That was confusing. Sadly I understood Dave.

You misunderstood that?

I thought it was a rather lucid and comprehensible assessment.  

The modern image and tactics of snipers, with there special camo suites or guile suites, originated during the first world war. There were these Scottish marksmen who were hired by this rich landowner to protect his livestock, they invented a type of camouflage suite that could blend in to any environment using torn rags and stuff that were natural colors, they were later employed by the British army as snipers. But you don’t have to sneak around wearing a bush to be a sniper, in WW 2 there were snipers in both the American and British armies who wore regular uniforms and advanced w/ their squad of regular infantrymen, in short they were just regular soldiers who were very good shots and had a scoped M-1903 riffle instead of an M-1.

Reb Cpl wrote: You misunderstood that? I thought it was a rather lucid and comprehensible assessment.

AHHH CURSE YOU and your big fancy words!!!! j/k.

MT. Vigilante wrote: The modern image and tactics of snipers, with there special camo suites or guile suites, originated during the first world war. There were these Scottish marksmen who were hired by this rich landowner to protect his livestock, they invented a type of camouflage suite that could blend in to any environment using torn rags and stuff that were natural colors, they were later employed by the British army as snipers. But you don’t have to sneak around wearing a bush to be a sniper, in WW 2 there were snipers in both the American and British armies who wore regular uniforms and advanced w/ their squad of regular infantrymen, in short they were just regular soldiers who were very good shots and had a scoped M-1903 riffle instead of an M-1.

Not a bad recitation. Its a little deeper than that, but it'll serve. *Stealth* and I put together a rather brilliant little post concerning the origins and the history of the term and its applications...that was a long time ago.

Monk wrote: Reb Cpl wrote: You misunderstood that? I thought it was a rather lucid and comprehensible assessment.   AHHH CURSE YOU and your big fancy words!!!! j/k.

It takes me quite some time to be able to properly place words like that in a coherant sentence, and its a rare occasion that I get to use them...so I seize every opportunity that I can..

Reb Cpl wrote: MT. Vigilante wrote: The modern image and tactics of snipers, with there special camo suites or guile suites, originated during the first world war. There were these Scottish marksmen who were hired by this rich landowner to protect his livestock, they invented a type of camouflage suite that could blend in to any environment using torn rags and stuff that were natural colors, they were later employed by the British army as snipers. But you don’t have to sneak around wearing a bush to be a sniper, in WW 2 there were snipers in both the American and British armies who wore regular uniforms and advanced w/ their squad of regular infantrymen, in short they were just regular soldiers who were very good shots and had a scoped M-1903 riffle instead of an M-1. Not a bad recitation. Its a little deeper than that, but it'll serve. *Stealth* and I put together a rather brilliant little post concerning the origins and the history of the term and its applications...that was a long time ago.

Yea, I was just trying to give a basic summary of the origins of the modern sniper, the whole Idea of snipers in warfare actually originates with us Americans in the Revolutionary war, although they weren’t called snipers then. But I’m sure you knew that.

Some jerk will write:"[Insert random noobly, anti-sniper, immature thought here]"

Anyway, good assesment of the term. Went way against the grain. Who would have thought that speed ballers fit the original meaning of sniping better than woodsballers.

NotDaveEllis wrote: So if the snipers were sharpshooters hunting Snipes Wouldn't sharpshooters hunting paintball players be, paintballers!

I award NotDaveEllis two happy-clappies  for the above statement.  I also award three to SebastionBlack for thinking outside the box and adding an entirely new perspective to the sniper debate.  To quote the Guinness ad; "Brilliant!"

Koolit32 wrote: MT. Vigilante wrote: The modern image and tactics of snipers, with there special camo suites or guile suites, originated during the first world war. There were these Scottish marksmen who were hired by this rich landowner to protect his livestock, they invented a type of camouflage suite that could blend in to any environment using torn rags and stuff that were natural colors, they were later employed by the British army as snipers. But you don’t have to sneak around wearing a bush to be a sniper, in WW 2 there were snipers in both the American and British armies who wore regular uniforms and advanced w/ their squad of regular infantrymen, in short they were just regular soldiers who were very good shots and had a scoped M-1903 riffle instead of an M-1. Like Private Jackson in Saving Private Ryan. Good flick.

Exactly.

First off I would like to say that I respect everyone’s opinions, I am not angry, and I am defenatly not flaming anyone, this thread has gotten to the second page without that happening, but I would like to know why some of you think woodsball is not a sport, it as many of the same characteristics of speedball, and also anyone cannot pick up a paintball marker and instantly be an expert, it takes lots of practice to be good.

THERE ARE NO SNIPERS IN PAINTBALL!!!11!!!!

Snipers are used for the perpose of recon, usually they don't shoot someone unless there is the case that it is necessary for them to fear for their lives.  Other snipers that take out people in the military are known as hitmen (Not opfficail term)

One Of A Kind wrote: THERE ARE NO SNIPERS IN PAINTBALL!!!11!!!! Snipers are used for the perpose of recon, usually they don't shoot someone unless there is the case that it is necessary for them to fear for their lives.  Other snipers that take out people in the military are known as hitmen (Not opfficail term)

Please don’t take this personally, I’m not flaming you, but you obviously don’t know anything about the military. I come from a family with a long line of military service dating back to the revolutionary war, and my father was a Marine and is currently serving in Iraq. Yes snipers are used for reconnaissance, but that is not their main roll in war, in fact there are far more “hitman” snipers, as you call them, than recon snipers, especially in the Marines. And as for them being called Hitmen, nether I nor anyone else in my family has ever heard a sniper called that in the military.

matt06 wrote: SebastianBlack wrote: Therefore, I will say there are snipers in paintball....just not the guy that dresses up like a flower garden and lays in the back. Classic statement...

I believe that those “bush” players are snipers by the definition of a sniper, but I don’t agree w/ there tactics, they may get a few players out on the other team but I don’t see how it actually helps there team, I think that they should use the tactics I mentioned earlier and move w/ there team and not wear a bush suite, it would help there team a lot to have such a good shot up front w/ them. That’s how all the snipers on our team operate.

The modern image and tactics of snipers, with there special camo suites or guile suites, originated during the first world war. There were these Scottish marksmen who were hired by this rich landowner to protect his livestock, they invented a type of camouflage suite that could blend in to any environment using torn rags and stuff that were natural colors, they were later employed by the British army as snipers. But you don’t have to sneak around wearing a bush to be a sniper, in WW 2 there were snipers in both the American and British armies who wore regular uniforms and advanced w/ their squad of regular infantrymen, in short they were just regular soldiers who were very good shots and had a scoped M-1903 riffle instead of an M-1.

hes got a point.