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Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Subject: $#%^&*(&^%^&*
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 9:38pm
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God I can't stand rap music.
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Posted By: themovielife
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 9:39pm
| Good for you. |
Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 9:40pm
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themovielife wrote:Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 9:40pm
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Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 9:41pm
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What happened?
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 9:42pm
| Guess what I'm listening to? |
Posted By: Sumo_Monkey22
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 9:43pm
| God I can't stand metallica... |
Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 9:43pm
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Nothing really happened. I just was thinking about peoples preferences
of music, and rap came along, and i just almost barfed in my mouth.
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Posted By: nforcer4
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 9:43pm
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yea most rap sucksbut i like some i just hate pop rap talking about how much money they make a year and what they ride that rap SUCKS edit and how many times they got shot |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 9:48pm
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Yeah, its really bad. But what prompted you to voice your opinion on the matter here of all places? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors"> 
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Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 9:49pm
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Well, I was bored..........and uh............i have no life?
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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 9:50pm
| * Dave__ is listening to Aesop Rock - Daylight |
Posted By: Koolit32
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 9:58pm
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Well I'm here to defend the music because you're stupid. I must say, many rap songs do achieve lyrics better than "dreams of war, dreams of liars, dreams of dragon's fire, and of things that will bite". How does that even compare, with lyrics like "Tell me who's your weed man, how do you smoke so good? You's a superstar boy, why you still up in the hood?" What I'm getting at is, no one cares about your opinion. |
Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 9:59pm
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^ Hahahaha. Thanks for the good laugh.
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Posted By: xteam02001
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 10:00pm
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sometimes people need to broaden their horizans and not give in to conformity involving the hating of Rap music. when someone says they dont like rap, everyone else hanging out with that person agrees and never tries to listen to it. i listen to rap for the beats and rythm. Not all people like the lyrics. ------------- 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 10:06pm
| Dave, Aesop rock is pwn |
Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 10:11pm
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first off, if u r a true music fan, you will not dis rap. And if you do hate rap, you must not be listening to TRUE rap. Those songs with weed this and rims that is not true rap. To get a real taste of TRUE rap, listen to some songs by Tupac, certain songs by Nas, Kanye West, and KRS one. Rap is like any other kind of music, putting emotions to a beat.Doesn't metallica does the same thing expect with a rock beat. Now, since i no this is a winless battle, im going to go back to lassing up my new shoes. Good nite and have a wonderful tommorrow. P.S.- I listen to all kinds of music. Mostly rap though cause i think its one of the few remaining forms of true music left. |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 10:13pm
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Thats why I listen to oldies . . .
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Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 10:15pm
I'm sorry that when i think of rap music, i think of annoying singers with their bling, singing about cars and chicks. -------------
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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 10:31pm
Well, thats what the MTV socity shows you. Try listening to some less popular rap, like the ones i listed above. Rappers sing about bling and cars because thats wut sells records to the ignorant people. |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 10:37pm
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If it bothers you, don't listen to it.
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Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 10:39pm
i say the complete opposite, these "TRUE" rap songs sounds so boring and GENERIC, the only time i listen to rap is in cars reallly loud with big subs the the ones with crap lyrics but a god bass beat and yes i laugh at my self for being a **edited** sometimes, but 99% of the time im listening to old metal and rock so i redeem my self. haha ------------- <1 meg sig = bad> |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 16 February 2005 at 11:45pm
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I was named after a rapper and concieved to a rap song, so rap has done me good. With out rap, I would not be.
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 12:27am
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Word. But I will defend rap. I like quite a bit of modern poppy gangsta rap. I like the beats, I like the bass, I like the lyrics, I like the outstanding emotive quality. Who does anger better than Eminem? Who grunts better than DMX? Who does arrogance better than Dre? Powerful beats, powerful bass, powerful lyrics - what's not to like? In my experience, most people who flatly state that they don't like rap just haven't heard very much of it. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 12:33am
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Amen, Brotha. Word to your mother.
Dont forget about Snoop, he invented half of the words teens use today. House of Pain, Jump Around. Beats any song played on MTV over the past 10 years. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 12:36am
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There was this one guy, I dont remember his name,
but he pretty much invented hip hop lingo. He started "po-po" as police, etc... Snoop as well. Hades, I was actually thinking about that ballin pimpin hard video today... it's so frustrating... |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 12:37am
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Snoop is also good, although a bit more of an acquired taste - very peculiar style. (Doggystyle aside - who doesn't like Doggystyle?) |
Posted By: Brainless_Fool
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 1:18am
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Posted By: Brainless_Fool
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 1:18am
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Other rap sucks. Unless someone corrects me by providing another example of excellent rap. ------------- Who loves the chocolate? Everyone loves the chocolate. Nobody hates the chocolate. 'Cos everyone loves the chocolate. |
Posted By: reclusivetorrid
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 9:15am
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I've heard some good rap, but as a rule it pretty much sucks.
But as a rule most everything that isn't good sucks, so I can't just bash rap. Later ------------- 
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 9:27am
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As a rule, people that criticize something tend not to know as much about it as the people who do like it.
This is one of those cases. The best rappers are the ones you've never heard of, and of course, they come from the West Coast...the closer to the Bay Area the better. I'm sorry, but if you like any of these studio rappers you would seriously love you some underground stuff! And I hate to say it, but rap not only has better beats and rythme than any other kind of music, the lyrics are actually deeper as well. But like anything, people are gonna listen to some Chingy and think they know about rap, when those homos on MTV are about as far from a real rapper as you can get. Educate yourself about something before you knock it. |
Posted By: reclusivetorrid
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 9:37am
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The biggest beef I have with rap is the negative message that most of it portrays. However, there is some underground stuff that is not negative and is very good.
When I say that "as a rule rap pretty much sucks" I'm reffering to the mtv junk that most kids listen to. Later -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 10:02am
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^Oh, I wasn't directly responding to you. I just read your post and thought the whole "as a rule" was a good style to go with this particular post! LOL
It's true, most rap could be considered negative. But like all music, it's a reflection of the life you live and the environment you are surrounded by. If everything in your life is all good, you express that. If things have gone bad, you can flow about that as well. I would personally just say I laugh when I hear people say rap has no good lyrics, when every one of their little punk/thrasher crap bands sounds the same and says like 5 whole words the whole song...all of them grunted so you can barely understand. All I will say is that if rap has no lyrical content, nothing does. |
Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 10:04am
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I don't mind rap, but I hate to think that some guitairist is sitting
at home barely affording his apartment and has spent years perfecting
his talent, and someone like Lil' Jon can come up and scream YEAHH!!!!
and hes driving around in Hummers. It just shows how eff'd up our society is, nobody really understands true talent. ------------- |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 10:06am
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 10:07am
I can toatlly feel you here! What's even worse, is there are just plain better rappers that are not getting paid while this chump screams in his repulsive voice and makes millions....freaking Americans have no class. |
Posted By: MattyJ
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 10:13am
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Me, I like all types of music. But I agree that people don't like rap because of what they see on MTV (music destroyer). Try and listen to rap artists that nobody has ever heard of, like Immortal Technique. Go to the http://www.viperrecords.com - Viper Records webpage and get Immortal Technique's Revolutionary, Volume 2. Pay the 11.99 to listen to what real rap music is. Especially Track 17, You Never Know. Maybe after hearing it, you'll see the art behind the bling-bling, rims, pimpin, and **edited**es that is MTV rap. ------------- 98 Custom HK G36C Appearance 70/4500 Dye Throttle Ricochet AK Polished Internals Aluminum Power Tube Dye Sticky 3 Grips Next on the list: ??? |
Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 10:17am
I'm glad you pointed that out before I was flamed. I do enjoy some rap, very little, but some. There is definently some decent rap out there. And to the forumer who said nas wasn't commercial rap. What was his first breakout song? "I got mine, I hope you got yourself a gun" ------------- |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 10:25am
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Much of gangsta rap in particular certainly is misogynistic, homophobic, and violent - no doubt about it, and I can understand how that would drive many people away. At the same time, however, those same things contribute to the emotional power of the music. If I want mellow, I'll listen to Elton John. If I want to start WWIII, I listen to Rammstein. If I want to emote anger, I listen to Eminem. Anger is also an emotion, and I don't want to leave it our of my music repertoir.
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Posted By: whoknowswho
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 10:59am
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All I have ever heard is the junk on the radio and on tv, and as a rule I don't like it at all. When you make up words so you can complete a verse, then your art form has ceased being music. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 11:02am
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I think you will find that linguistic creativity is not the sole domain of rap music... But more to the point - the whole point of art is "making stuff up" - aka creativity. Why should a creative lyricist limit himself to words already in the dictionary? All the words you use were "made up" at some point... |
Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 3:36pm
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I Listen to N.W.A. every so often.
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Posted By: Vitamin
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 5:06pm
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You cant hate rap music, cause it aint music.
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 5:21pm
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that made me laugh. Dont konw why, but it did.
Dude, I have been saying that since chingy saight right thurr. I couldnt agree more. How about some of you guys list the underground people you listen to. I need some new music to listen to. ------------- 
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 5:21pm
What's music then? -------------
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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 5:34pm
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Can you rap? No so it's music.
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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 5:35pm
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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 6:03pm
PLZ, if rap isn't music, they me wut the defation of music is. Under ground or rap NOT played by MTV OR BET(which i do watch) is the best expression of emotion. Tupac expressed the pain of his life and the pain of wut he saw in his life. See any song be tupac. Eminem expresses anger the best. When you listen to him be angry, you yourself will get mad. see "who i am" DMX expresses his painful life.see "who we be" Nas expresses his pain and anger though rap. see "one mic" Kayne west express his emotion though rap. see "juses walks" i could keep one going but i dont want this post to take up 4 pages. |
Posted By: Atreyu
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 6:04pm
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Posted By: Atreyu
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 6:05pm
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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 6:07pm
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http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=music - http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=music
there u go. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 6:11pm
Well said. I would add one track to that list - perhaps the most disturbing few minutes of sound I know, but it practically makes you hold your breath the whole time: Eminem - "Kim" |
Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 6:16pm
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^^^ iwas thinking of putting that but just listening to that song will make you wanna kill someone. just alittle too much emotion in that song. EDIT: right now im listening to tupac's greatest hits album. the best song "changes" |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 6:24pm
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Ever hear the Tori Amos cover of Eminem's Bonnie and Clyde?
His best song: Girls (Limp Bizkit Diss) -------------
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Posted By: P!NK panther
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 6:27pm
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rap is great....but i still like rock to
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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 8:01pm
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i have and thats a cool song |
Posted By: slacker guy
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 8:09pm
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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 10:23pm
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NWA was very good. They showed that the po-po was racist. They were the first "reporters" of the street. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 17 February 2005 at 10:47pm
| NWA was good at the time, but ever since CB4 came out, I can't listen to "Straight Outta Compton" without giggling. |