Co2 Grip
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Topic: Co2 Grip
Posted By: One Of A Kind
Subject: Co2 Grip
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 12:11pm
| This would defy the laws of physics but it would be pretty sweet if some how you could fit like a whole 30/45 Nitro tank (The Air In it not the tank) into a gas thru grip and it would be normal sized. It would cut down weight and would make your gun a smaller target. Good idea but physically impossible. |
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 12:57pm
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That being said, why post an idea thats not possible? ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition! 
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Posted By: eaglesin05
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 4:19pm
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^ lol exactly
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Posted By: Curlyman666
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 7:52pm
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hey the ideas in this forum dont have to be possible thats not in the rules he can dream right? it would be cool tho like asuper compressed air tank that was like the size of your grip ------------- signature |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 8:18pm
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Curly, the reason why there is a Paintball Idea section of the Forum is to give others "an idea that it can possibly happen".....day dreaming about an idea and then stating that it wont work is not an idea at all. ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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Posted By: DrexelSkaPB
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 9:26pm
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The pressure would be like 350000 psi. Don't believe me? Well, I made a guess, but it would be six digits, if not more. ------------- It seems like all the cool cats do this: Custom 98, Flatline, r/t, CAR stock, custom camo paintjob, which every hopper I feel like putting on it, vertical adapter, oh dibs, I'm running out of charact |
Posted By: Mad Psience
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 12:30pm
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current tanks are pressure tested to around 20000psi for safety. I say why not make some sort of ergo tank at around 10k psi and see how many shots you get. not co2 though, hpa ------------- 
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Posted By: HITMAN 4 HIRE
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 3:07pm
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nothings impossible. you can only make that way. it would be hard but i believe you could probably compress the c02 enough that it would fit. ------------- http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=27278mo.jpg">  Because I can.
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Posted By: Mad Psience
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 5:59pm
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or just get a remote.. -------------
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Posted By: DrexelSkaPB
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 8:05pm
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I just took the time to figure it out. In my calculations, I used a 68 cubic inch-4500psi tank and a foregrip with a .5 inch radius and height of 4 inches, assuming that only 1/3 of it's total volume can store gas. I have to admit, in my post above, I was wrong. The pressure would be more like 292117 psi. That would hurt your hand like crap if you were to blow an o-ring or overfill. Not to mention your face would be in orbit. ------------- It seems like all the cool cats do this: Custom 98, Flatline, r/t, CAR stock, custom camo paintjob, which every hopper I feel like putting on it, vertical adapter, oh dibs, I'm running out of charact |
Posted By: triggerhappy1
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 8:29pm
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its called a vertical adapter and a 12gram co2 changer for a "gas grip." ------------- 
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Posted By: Mad Psience
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 8:57pm
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yeah but how many shots do you get out of a 12 gram? -------------
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Posted By: triggerhappy1
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 9:00pm
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about 15... i understand the idea, but it doesnt seem very possible. so i improvised. but it is very cool using one like that. almost feels like a real gun. -------------
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Posted By: Mad Psience
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 9:13pm
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up it to 30 grams and it would almost be feasible for scenario play. it would be like 32 round clips. now how realistic is that? -------------
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Posted By: triggerhappy1
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 9:17pm
| what about fake clips that will hold that amount of gas for that many shots. seems like a very good idea for scenario guys. where getting somewhere in this thread... |
Posted By: DrexelSkaPB
Date Posted: 21 February 2005 at 5:23pm
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Those little 4oz. or 6oz. CO2 tanks are pretty small, you'll only get maybe 200-300 rounds out of one though. So if you'd like to change air tanks whenever you refill your hopper, these are probably the way to go. Pure Energy also makes something called "Spare Air"; these are non-refillable CO2 tank of 94 grams. ------------- It seems like all the cool cats do this: Custom 98, Flatline, r/t, CAR stock, custom camo paintjob, which every hopper I feel like putting on it, vertical adapter, oh dibs, I'm running out of charact |
Posted By: CottageCommando
Date Posted: 21 February 2005 at 8:43pm
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you could do it but it would hold very much u could turn it into a liquid but i think that would be highly dangerous ------------- Building an Evil Empire... One piece at a time :) |
Posted By: MT. Vigilante
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 10:18am
He’s right, if you can get enough energy out of one atom to destroy a city then you can fit that much CO2 into a hand grip, it would just be really expensive. -------------  Join the XP Re-Revolution!
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HITMAN 4 HIRE wrote:Posted By: DrexelSkaPB
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 9:48pm
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^All that energy didn't come from one atom - it was a chain reaction of many atoms. One bumps two, two bumps four... It is (chemically and physically) possible when you look at the math involved (heck, anything looks good on paper), but is it truly something that can work in the real, practical, and unpredictable world? You would need to make the grip out of a material that could withstand the force exerted on it by close to half million psi, and it can only be at the most about 0.5 inches thick. Plus, the o-rings and fittings would have to withstand the same amount of pressure. ------------- It seems like all the cool cats do this: Custom 98, Flatline, r/t, CAR stock, custom camo paintjob, which every hopper I feel like putting on it, vertical adapter, oh dibs, I'm running out of charact |
Posted By: A5 dude15
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 6:06pm
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Posted By: A5 dude15
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 6:08pm
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Posted By: DrexelSkaPB
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 10:34pm
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Link to the lil' Pure Energy tanks: http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=xhLt3vLI6BfttLDVl_EtdvgBuNoRKl1nt2c=?ProductID=fa%2esFAY7nJYAAAD301ilA_2t - http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/S tore/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=xhLt3vLI6B fttLDVl_EtdvgBuNoRKl1nt2c=?ProductID=fa%2esFAY7nJYAAAD301ilA _2t I personally find them useless. Non-refillable, cost over $10, and you'll only get maybe 200 shots (94 grams = 4 oz). but yeah, they appear the same diameter as a grip, a tad bit longer. They'r called "Spare Air" so I can only assume they aren't designed or being marketed for use as your main air source, just a little back-up you put in your pocket. ------------- It seems like all the cool cats do this: Custom 98, Flatline, r/t, CAR stock, custom camo paintjob, which every hopper I feel like putting on it, vertical adapter, oh dibs, I'm running out of charact |
Posted By: A5 dude15
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 5:22pm
| well for ten dollars, it does seem like a waste, theys hould be 5 or 6 |
Posted By: DrexelSkaPB
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 7:14pm
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Yeah the Spare Air isn't very practical, you can buy a refillable 4oz tank (same size) for $15-20 and use it a million times. All in all, it is a cool idea to use smaller tanks where the forgrip/magazine would be to give the gun a more realistic feel, reduce weight, and balance the gun better; it'd only be good for scenario play or maybe woodsball, I however wouldn't use it for the simply fact that I have a r/t (I use a lot of paint) and that was a very long run-on sentence. ------------- It seems like all the cool cats do this: Custom 98, Flatline, r/t, CAR stock, custom camo paintjob, which every hopper I feel like putting on it, vertical adapter, oh dibs, I'm running out of charact |