Immortal Technique
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Topic: Immortal Technique
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Subject: Immortal Technique
Date Posted: 19 February 2005 at 7:29pm
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I am not normally one who is into rap, I mean, I enjoy some Snoop dogg, I loved the grey albumn, but it's not really me. My friend one day about a year ago, had me listen to a CD, Immortal technique: Revoloutionary volume 1. This CD Is simply amazing, his rapping is amazing, not commercial bling bling, but political. He publishes on an independant label which he is Exec. VP of. The song dance with the devil made me cry, others made me angry, some made me happy. Overall, EXCELLENT music, you should sample some on the viper records website...
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Posted By: The American
Date Posted: 19 February 2005 at 7:31pm
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Never heard of him, so hes not new or anything right, just unheard of?
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Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 19 February 2005 at 7:37pm
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Oh god no.
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 19 February 2005 at 7:42pm
If you aren't going to give it a chance, why not keep it to yourself? ------------- 
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MetallicaESPa5 wrote:Posted By: Gotpaint92
Date Posted: 19 February 2005 at 7:42pm
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Damn straght!^ ------------- Be care full! Sigs earn strikes |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 19 February 2005 at 7:47pm
Not too new, I think first album was like 2001... |
Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 19 February 2005 at 7:55pm
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Meh. I just can't stand rap.
------------- Something unknown is doing we don't know what. That is what our knowledge amounts to. - Sir Arthur Eddington |
Posted By: 98God
Date Posted: 19 February 2005 at 7:59pm
Amen...but yet again i have never heard any that has been remotely close to being good. |
Posted By: MattyJ
Date Posted: 19 February 2005 at 8:18pm
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I just talked about this in another thread about hating rap (started by MetallicaESPa5.) Immortal Technique is absolutly amazing! Revolutionary Volume 1 was awesome, but Volume 2 is even better. If Dance With the Devil makes you cry, try "You Never Know" on Volume 2. Wow... It hits me every time I listen to it. To everyone that says "I hate all rap," I challenge you. Listen to all of Volume 1 or 2 and tell me if your view of rap has improved, even slightly. Just give it a shot... ------------- 98 Custom HK G36C Appearance 70/4500 Dye Throttle Ricochet AK Polished Internals Aluminum Power Tube Dye Sticky 3 Grips Next on the list: ??? |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 19 February 2005 at 8:20pm
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meh,
I listened to it, I think its poo. To each his own I suppose. ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 19 February 2005 at 8:31pm
I listened to some of the demo track things and they weren't too bad, but they weren't good. ------------- Something unknown is doing we don't know what. That is what our knowledge amounts to. - Sir Arthur Eddington |
Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 19 February 2005 at 8:40pm
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http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=126567&PN=5&TPN=3 - http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp ?TID=126567&PN=5&TPN=3 read that so me and clark dont have to rip u rap haters to pieces again |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 19 February 2005 at 8:48pm
I just said its poo, Rap isnt my thing. I listened to the "music" and I thought it was poo. Am I entitled to my own opinion on it? ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 19 February 2005 at 11:59pm
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Am I entitled to my own opinion on it? [/QUOTE] yes u r but ur opinion is wrong |
Posted By: A-5 08
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 12:05am
^^^^ my feelings, ihave listened to rap and I plain don't like it, I am a led zeplin, the who, aerosmith, rolling stones, the doors, and Jimi Hendrixkind of guy. But occasionally if i am playing my trombone and want to hear it played correctly i will find something classic to listen to. Rap really just rubs me th wrong way. Nothing against anyone it is just not my thing. |
Posted By: Belt #2
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 12:12am
Opinions are not inherently right or wrong. But I'm sure an articulate person of your intellegence would realise this. ------------- Most importantly - People suck. |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 12:18am
I personally LOVE Led Zeppelin, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Jet, tons of rock, some blues, and classical music. this is like the only Rap I like. |
Posted By: TruePaintballer
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 12:32am
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Rap is just talking with swears and obsenities...the only rap song I enjoyed was Tupac's Changes ------------- http://www.freewebs.com/outlawspaintball/index.htm - Outlaws *Sponsors* http://www.abrika.ca - Abrika |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 12:33am
yes u r but ur opinion is wrong[/QUOTE] Ok buddy, listen up. The question was rectorichal (sp?). Now, I have listened to rap. I have listened to everything from the "Bling Bling" stuff, to Eminiem (sp?) to Immortal Technique. Heres the deal : I dont like it! It has nothing to do with rap being acossiated with African Americans or what have you. I just happen to dislike that particular genre of music. If you have a problem with that and cant handle people not liking things you like, then grow the hell up. ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: MattyJ
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 12:51am
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God you're dumb... ------------- 98 Custom HK G36C Appearance 70/4500 Dye Throttle Ricochet AK Polished Internals Aluminum Power Tube Dye Sticky 3 Grips Next on the list: ??? |
Posted By: Belt #2
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 12:58am
If you ask me, I usually say something along the lines of "It is not truly music until it requires more skill [than black skin and or the ability to talk fast and curse a lot] to play or participate in." Although anything with a clear beat or rhythm is considered music (sometimes they say it needs to vary pitch somewhere along the line) I do NOT consider rap to be music. Although it [usually] contains a clear beat and or rhythm it takes little or no skill to play or participate in. Unlike classical, or jazz (which take AMAZING amounts of skill to play correctly). Yeah, sure classical and jazz may be "old man music" but most all musicians who can play these generes contain more skill in [what ever body orifice they play their insturment with] than most any rapper can possibly contain in their entire body. Most people who do not like rap do not like it beacuse of the whole corporate "bling bling" crap and the obvious and blatent defacing of the names of various racial groups, along with the glorification of crime and all that is represented as the evils of modern society. Sure, demeaning an entire race just to make yourself some "phat cash" is okay. Sure, deluding today's youth into believeing that [all] (tee-hee) black women are demireps is perfectly acceptable in this [modern] society. Sure, it is perfectly acceptable to blatently clog up the radio waves with your ear-smut to make it harder for Belt to find good music to listen to when he is bored.... Grrrr. Sometimes I feel like I am arguing with a group of brickwalls. For your stupidity I sentance you Corpral Punishment. ------------- Most importantly - People suck. |
Posted By: TruePaintballer
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 12:59am
Generally for the most part...the "thugs" swear and talk about how they made money... ------------- http://www.freewebs.com/outlawspaintball/index.htm - Outlaws *Sponsors* http://www.abrika.ca - Abrika |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 1:03am
| truepaintballer. Did you even listen to some of this? The melodies and rhythms in the background are amazing, and he talks about repressed youth, how drugs tear apart the country, he is progressive. Try listening first. |
Posted By: MattyJ
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 1:17am
Generalizations are a lazy tool of a weak mind, no offense. Yes, some of the more "thugged out" rappers swear and talk about how they made money. However, thats not what rap is. Rap is just another way of expressing oneself through music. So a lot of rappers choose to talk about their money, so what? They earned it! And about swearing, there are a lot of rock bands that swear more than some rappers, so none of you "I hate rap but I love rock!" people should say one damn word about that. And since I know its going to be brought up, very similar to this "Well why don't y'all explain why rappers are always gettin' shot? Is that a good example to set?" Yeah, some rappers get shot. Some bank clerks get shot. And school teachers. And pastors. And political figures. Its just the media focusing in on rappers getting shot that blows it out of proportion. Oh, and about setting an example, many many MANY non-rapper musicians have OD'd and died or somehow killed themselves. I'll name a few, just to rub it in (Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, Bradley Nowell, etc.) Great role models, huh? Much better than those rappers. And Belt, you claim it takes no skill to rap? I'd like to hear you try. You wouldn't be able to put more than two lines together. Yes, some rappers make up words, but a lot of them have enourmous vocabularies that allow them to rap properly. And did any of you haters ever thing that maybe a word you thought was made up was maybe just a word you didn't know/understand? And don't get me wrong, I like all kinds of music, from rock to rap to jazz to classical. You can't claim to love music unless you can open your mind to all different forms of it. ------------- 98 Custom HK G36C Appearance 70/4500 Dye Throttle Ricochet AK Polished Internals Aluminum Power Tube Dye Sticky 3 Grips Next on the list: ??? |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 2:29am
Haha, yeah....sure..... Anyway, if you don't already have it, get "creation and destruction" by him. Also check out classified and atmosphere. Maybe Buck 65, but depends on your taste. Aesop rock is good too. |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 4:29am
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ill try it out. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: Belt #2
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 5:44am
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I'd like to hear you try. You wouldn't be able to put more than two lines together. I could do more than that. The question isn't how much mindless drivel I can throw togeather in a 2 minute time frame, the real matter is how good the stuff witll sound. Yes, some rappers make up words, but a lot of them have enourmous vocabularies that allow them to rap properly. I have an "enourmous" vocabulary also (unlike yourself), but I choose not to flaunt it mindlessly for the purposes of mere narcissistic gratification (
) And did any of you haters ever thing that maybe a word you thought was made up was maybe just a word you didn't know/understand? No, mainly beacuse I own a dictionary, and I use it. Unlike you.Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 7:16am
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Anyway.....Atmosphere=good. I like this stuff and I am stealing a few songs. If I ever se a CD I will pick it up. ------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: MattyJ
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 11:24am
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Belt- First off, never call me sparky again. Ever.... Secondly, never insult my intelligence and tell me I don't have an enourmous vocabulary. You say I don't, but in no way are you giving any evidence of it. Oh, and I do own a dictionary. And third, you just proved my point right. "You must look at the basic message behind both generes. Well, I take that back, you must look at it artist by artist. You must look at their values and goals, their history and future plans." Thats my point EXACTLY!! Just because the rappers you believe are "showing pride for the 'ghetoo life' (which is spelled ghetto.... Just FYI)," which is an extremly racist way of thinking, doesn't mean that all rappers are like that. You need to look at each artist and see what he is about before you make a decision about him. "I don't see a question mark after this sentance. Is that, maybe, beacuse you wern't asking me anything?" Very good Copernicus!! Usually sentences without question marks aren't questions!! "I'd much rather readily respect a man who died in a bloody-friggin-awesome way" ODing on heroin or cocaine, blowing your own head off.... these are bloody-friggen-awesome ways to go? No, these are the way that people that real losers die. Yes, I am calling Hendrix, Cobain, Joplin, et al. losers. Although they were great musicians on the outside, they were still losers at heart. There's probably a lot more I could say to you, but I've seen that you can't be open-minded enough to listen to anyone else's opinion, so I'll stop here. I'm sure you haven't listened to Immortal Technique yet (which is what this thread is about) so until you do, don't say anything else. ------------- 98 Custom HK G36C Appearance 70/4500 Dye Throttle Ricochet AK Polished Internals Aluminum Power Tube Dye Sticky 3 Grips Next on the list: ??? |
Posted By: MattyJ
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 11:26am
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Thank you rockerdoode, thats all we ask! ------------- 98 Custom HK G36C Appearance 70/4500 Dye Throttle Ricochet AK Polished Internals Aluminum Power Tube Dye Sticky 3 Grips Next on the list: ??? |
Posted By: slacker guy
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 3:39pm
 yes rap does suck------------- 
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