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Topic: First Gun
Posted By: Ethos
Subject: First Gun
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 1:14pm

Sup all.  I was wondering if you guys could help me help a friend out.  He's wanting to get into paintball and is looking to purchase a gun.  I know this is a Tippmann forum, so you guys would probably be biased, but I'm hoping for some good suggestions.  He wants something close to a mil-sim marker but he's open to mostly anything.  Here's basically what he wants:

-  Cool looking/realistic (like a mil-sim)
-  Fairly decent marker off the bat
-  Upgrades to make the marker more decent if it isn't already
-  Prefers to keep the cost around $300, but willing to go $400 if absolutely necessary

He's interested in Ariakon's Sim-15 or 5 or 4.  He also thinks he wants a sidearm for backup (I'm already trying to convince him otherwise, so no need to tell me).  I've been trying to convince him that a 98c would be nice, cuz he could get the 98c, J&J Cerami, CO2 tank, hopper, and mask and be well off, but he's still hesitant about the look.  Any feedback is appreciated.

P.S.  I was thinking of convincing him to get the SP Ion, if he can go that high for a marker.  He's still got to consider all the other things to buy though.




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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 1:21pm
I would say go with the Smart Parts ION.

It's only $285 at http://www.countypaintball.com - County .

I would also say yes, the 98 Custom is a good choice. He can make it look how he wants it with certain kits and such from http://www.englerpaintball.com - EnglerPaintball , too.

There are so many modifications you can do the 98 Custom such as milling off the lettering and such. ( http://www.model98.net - Model98.net )

He won't be disappointed if he goes with these choices.

EDIT:: He can also consider the NEW MARKER coming out in March from Tippmann. We do not know what it is yet. Also he can consider the new 98 Custom Pro that you can now pre-order too.

And, if he doesn't like the 98, there is also the A-5.


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Posted By: Mental_Midget
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 2:50pm
Tippmann 98 Custom.. most reliable gun you can get.. plus its only $160 for you americans.... $160 or lower

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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 2:54pm
A-5 without a dought.

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Posted By: the a-5 RIPPER
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 3:10pm
dont get the ION just yet it just came out wait a little to get some reviews on it it might really be a POS i would get the a5 over the ion anyday


Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 3:21pm
Originally posted by the a-5 RIPPER the a-5 RIPPER wrote:

dont get the ION just yet it just came out wait a little to get some reviews on it it might really be a POS i would get the a5 over the ion anyday


Yeah, the thing is, IT'S NOT!


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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 4:09pm
Bolt, do u own a Ion or do u just want on


Posted By: RamboBlue
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 4:32pm
i would get a 98c because it is very reliable, the upgrades are endless, and because it kicks ass.

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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 4:35pm
Originally posted by cdacda13 cdacda13 wrote:

Bolt, do u own a Ion or do u just want on


I have used it for a few games at my local field. Easily walkable and compact. I personally love it and feel it is NOT total crap.


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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 4:36pm
Originally posted by RamboBlue RamboBlue wrote:

i would get a 98c because it is very reliable, the upgrades are endless, and because it kicks butt.


No need for such language.


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Posted By: Xspyderman
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 4:37pm
Go with the 98c, especially if have limited mechanical ability.  It is easy to maintain and extremely reliable!

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Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 5:33pm
I say go for the 98c or A-5. They are both reliable and very upgradable.

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Posted By: Sarge14
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 7:09pm
my 98 custom = 130 dollars
years owned = 4
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Posted By: DrunkDriver
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 8:12pm
Arikon makes some great guns. They also have a ACP, it is their combat pistol. Their guns will fit the image he wants and he can buy a cheaper model. Make an account over at the Arikon forum and ask them what they think. Their guns can be upgraded alittle but are pretty good to start off with.

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Posted By: sn0wie
Date Posted: 22 February 2005 at 9:44pm
Go 98C or A-5.  New marker will be to expensive right out of the production line.  I wouldn't suggest going with an ION either,  cause its kinda expensive for a new player and he won't have much money for customization.  The A-5 will be good enough, or even the 98C.  That's all you really need to start out. 

About the secondary, I coulda used one in my games a few times, but that's only cause my friends take my paint and CO2 (Crazy trigger fingers).  Your new, don't really need one.  After you play a bit, figure out how much paint and CO2 you use every game and then decide whether or not you need one.  I got a Core ZX, great backup.  Got 5 7 round clips for it that I keep in my pack.  Go with that if you're really gonna get one.  But as of now, I really wouldnt suggest it.  

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Posted By: Ethos
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 11:29am
Thanks guys, I'll try to convince him the 98c is the best choice, that or wait until march (not too long now) and see what else Tippmann has in store.  I think the Ion's too much to spend on for him (especially since it seems the only time he'd use his gun is when he goes pballin with me).


Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 5:15pm
Originally posted by Mental_Midget Mental_Midget wrote:

Tippmann 98 Custom.. most reliable gun you can get.. plus its only $160 for you americans.... $160 or lower

wtf do u mean "u americans" canada is in america genius

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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by Bolt3 Bolt3 wrote:

Originally posted by the a-5 RIPPER the a-5 RIPPER wrote:

dont get the ION just yet it just came out wait a
little to get some reviews on it it might really be a POS i would get
the a5 over the ion anyday


Yeah, the thing is, IT'S NOT!

what do u mean its not whats not

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Posted By: sn0wie
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 10:19pm

Originally posted by bluemunky42 bluemunky42 wrote:

Originally posted by Mental_Midget Mental_Midget wrote:

Tippmann 98 Custom.. most reliable gun you can get.. plus its only $160 for you americans.... $160 or lower

wtf do u mean "u americans" canada is in america genius

Pretty sure he means "United States of America".  Usually refered to as Americans where as Canadians are referred to as Canadians.



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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 25 February 2005 at 10:38am
Bluemonkey, please kill yourself and never post on this forum again.

As for the gun, go for the A5! It fits your description perfectly.

Mil-sim looks, under $250, heavily upgradable, and awesome performer out the box.....what more could you want?

if he wants to shoot fast out of the box, tell him to buy it with an Rt or E-Grip.

Even with the E-Grip, you will have a 15bps capable gun+adequate hopper and Tippmann reliability all in a gun under $350.

I own a ProCarbine, M98C, and A5RT, and I would definitely go with the A5 for your buddy's situation.


Posted By: Newb tippy
Date Posted: 25 February 2005 at 11:09am
ya he meant people who live in the US. im canadian, and most people refer to people from the states as americans.

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Posted By: YimSta
Date Posted: 25 February 2005 at 2:30pm
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 25 February 2005 at 5:55pm

Stop reccomending the Ion; he wants something MilSim.

As far as MilSim goes, you simply can't go wrong witha  Sim 4 or Sim 5. The Sim 5 is aprticualrly nice, adna  lot of upgrades are out or coming out, including a beautiful retracting stock and clip kit. Gret in case he wants to dump more money into in the future.

Unlike Tippmanns, the Sims come with a damned good stock barrel; you simply don't need to upgrade it. They don't have the advantage of being flatline compatible, but that's the only thing tippmann has on Ariakon. Durability and reliability are both par with each other. Ariakon ahs wonderful customer service if you DO have a problem with their markers.

They're a bit more expensive, but well worth it. They have two pistols as well, the Ariakon Combat Pistol and the OVerlord pistol- about $110 US and $100 Us respectively. Botha re very similar, differing  mostly in looks. the ACP has two different bore sizes, adn the Overlord has a rapid release magazine; faster than using 10rd tubes.

The Tippmanns really don't offer true MilSim looks. All but VERY few Tippmann mods look half-assed at best, though the guys at A5 Owners Group ( http://www.a5og.net - http://www.a5og.net ) have put together a few beauties. Ariakon offers TRUE MilSim looks, and damned good performance.

That being said, if your friend isn't absolutely anal about looks, Tippmanns are fine too. You can, as I said, add the flatline barrel, and tons of accessories and upgrades are available. Either Ariakon or Tippmann, you're getting a great deal.



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