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Posted By: .Ryan
Subject: Finally Bush might try to start to....
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 9:52pm
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/02/23/bush.europe/index.html - Make some sense.....



     I mean, how can we yell at middle eastern countries for being dictatorships and be friends with Russia while Putin does the same thing? Also, it's nice to see us chillin out a bit on Iran and Syria...That could turn ugly quick and that would really suck....The Germany being more friendly is nice too. Now if we can just get the rest of Europe to help us clean up our Iraq mess and be our friend again we should be set. Oh and handling that whole North Korea thing might be a good idea too....Oh well, I guess Hilary wil have some work to do in '09....and thats just in foreign policy...lol....


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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 9:55pm
Hillary would be worse than Bush. Trust me.

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Posted By: chronzak
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 9:59pm
i think hilllary would be a good president



Posted By: A-5 08
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 10:01pm
Well, in a way what is happening in Iraq and Afganistan has to be completed. I did not agree with the war in Iraq but Bush needs to finish what he started. He said that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction...which they didn't which means that one of his prime fuels for going over there was a flop. No freakin coalition, the US has 150,000 troops in Iraq, BRitan=20,000, and the remaining 30,000 is from those other countries, the US is supporting 2/3 of the troops there, some coalition.

As for Iran and Syria they seem like Iraq did when the US invaded...but the reason Bush isn't going triggerhappy is because we don't have the troops the money and he doesn't have the "backing"


anyway woo who


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 10:02pm
I hope to god she doesnt get elected. She has no business in the white house.

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Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 10:05pm
Originally posted by chronzak chronzak wrote:

i think hilllary would be a good cook



as it should be.

The answer is yes.


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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 10:32pm
Originally posted by chronzak chronzak wrote:

i think hilllary would be a good president



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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 10:33pm
Originally posted by Bolt3 Bolt3 wrote:


Originally posted by chronzak chronzak wrote:

i think hilllary would be a good president




Posted By: E-98
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 11:51pm
^^You guys gotta be kidding me?

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 11:52pm
Originally posted by Frozen Balls Frozen Balls wrote:


Originally posted by chronzak chronzak wrote:

i think hilllary would be a good cook




as it should be.

The answer is yes.


He he he.. Hilary..Presedent. I hope not..

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Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 11:52pm
Originally posted by E-98 E-98 wrote:

^^You guys gotta be kidding me?


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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 23 February 2005 at 11:57pm
I Will NEVER see a Women president in my life time...  unless some one is Assassinated.

But Kudos to Europe..

I Hope Vlad REALLY Helps is out with the Korea "Problem" were having...  it must be just me, but I belive the Russians may havea tougher Military then we do...  Our Soilders have to worry about politics, and Shooting Children where the Russians just Shoot on command, and ask questions later... thats how the Military should be ran... shoot now ask questions later... not "Wait for them to shoot at us, then we can shoot back"


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Posted By: DrexelSkaPB
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 12:12am

Martha Stewart should run for president.



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 12:21am
I hate martha stewart.

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Posted By: DrexelSkaPB
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 12:32am
^  Me too. That little $%&@#. Go make me an f'n pie.

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Posted By: St. Jimmy
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 7:20am

Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

I Will NEVER see a Women president in my life time...  unless some one is Assassinated.

No there wont be. Even though alot of people, including myself, think she wil be a bad president there are still so many male chauvinists in the world. So even if there was a good woman running for president she would have a slim chance of winning.



Posted By: SeaWolf
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 8:06am
Come on...

Why are people planning on voting for Hillary?

Originally posted by .Ryan .Ryan wrote:

Oh well, I guess Hilary wil have some work
to do in '09....


dude, we've never had excellent foreign policy.

the only work Hillary will be doing is destroying the economy that Bush is putting back together...

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Posted By: St. Jimmy
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 8:14am
^Bush is putting the economy back together?


Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 8:42am
Originally posted by chronzak chronzak wrote:

i think hilllary would be a good president



i sincerely hope thats a joke. remember when she said "let them go naked for a while, at least the children" when commenting that the hurricane relief in haiti was sending to much food and not enough clothes?

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Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 8:44am
Originally posted by St. Jimmy St. Jimmy wrote:

Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

I Will NEVER see a Women president in my life time...  unless some one is Assassinated.

No there wont be. Even though alot of people, including myself, think she wil be a bad president there are still so many male chauvinists in the world. So even if there was a good woman running for president she would have a slim chance of winning.



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Posted By: reclusivetorrid
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 9:06am
Hillary would be a totall nightmare...she's an admitted socialist, and has as much as said that she is a communist...wow I want that running my country...

The problem is that I don't see a very good individual on the other side either. Condi might be ok, but I'm not really sure that she has her sights on the presidency...

Plus racism is still very strong in this country, especially amoung the elderly.


I hope to God that Hillary doesn't win anything.



Later

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Posted By: POGUE182
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 9:29am
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Posted By: reclusivetorrid
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 9:37am
If you don't care then don't post.

How many times must this be said before you blockheads will stop.

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 9:44am
Originally posted by reclusivetorrid reclusivetorrid wrote:

she's an admitted socialist, and has as much as said that she is a communist..


hmmm... I may have changed my mind...  

(well not really I still hate the Idea of a Women president)

Yay: 3800 posts.


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Posted By: WUNgUN
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 10:39am
Originally posted by chronzak chronzak wrote:

i think hilllary would be a good president



Duff?

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Posted By: MROD
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 11:23am
^That would probably be better.

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Posted By: eaglesin05
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 12:40pm
Originally posted by BARREL BREAK BARREL BREAK wrote:

Originally posted by Bolt3 Bolt3 wrote:


Originally posted by chronzak chronzak wrote:

i think hilllary would be a good president




It'd be nice if the Dems could put up someone better but I think She'd do better then Bush


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Posted By: goodsmitty
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 1:00pm

Let's see, Hillary is:

1. Intelligent

2. Has social skills and can build alliances

3. in control of her facial gestures, doesn't look goofy on TV

She will NOT appeal to 52% of the population

HILLARY '08



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Posted By: WUNgUN
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 1:44pm
Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Let's see, Hillary is:


in control of her facial gestures, doesn't look goofy on TV


She will NOT appeal to 52% of the population


HILLARY '08


What exactly do you by, "doesn't look goofy..." because she sure looks something to me on TV!

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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 2:03pm
It's too bad half the population still believes women shouldn't vote. That's why it'll be another generation before a woman or a black man gets their chance.


Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 2:55pm
I was kinda kiddin about Hilary and I don't know enough about her to comment as far as that goes but thanks to whom ever said bush was rebuilding the economy....I needed a good laugh....had some gf problems earlier....but you don't want to here about that.....Anyway, I don't understand why someone would say that they would never want a woman president...They're not chopping wood folks. They're supposed to be making intelligent, rational, thought-out decisions and playing politics, and I have never seen anything that suggests a woman wouldn't be as good as a man in these respects. Hell, I could prolly argue that a lot of them may be better suited....

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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 4:04pm
Hillary=




Posted By: Badsmitty
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 4:26pm

Hillary could beat G.W. in a cage match.  So could Chelsea.  That's why conservatives hate her so much. 



Posted By: paintballa14
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 4:38pm

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

I hope to god she doesnt get elected. She has no business in the white house.

very true, hitlery, ummmm.... i mean hillary wouldent make a very good president. no offense to the ladies, but some women get very emotional, and I dont think we want the most powerfull person in the world getting emotional when terrorists try to destroy our country.



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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 4:41pm

THAT's that reason you don't want Hillary as President?  Because she might get "emotional"???

 



Posted By: paintballa14
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 4:44pm

Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

I Will NEVER see a Women president in my life time...  unless some one is Assassinated.

But Kudos to Europe..

I Hope Vlad REALLY Helps is out with the Korea "Problem" were having...  it must be just me, but I belive the Russians may havea tougher Military then we do...  Our Soilders have to worry about politics, and Shooting Children where the Russians just Shoot on command, and ask questions later... thats how the Military should be ran... shoot now ask questions later... not "Wait for them to shoot at us, then we can shoot back"

not to flame you, but o my god, that was stupid to say. remember the hostage crisis in chechnya where they took hostages in the movie theatre? well, when russian special forces were sent in, they ed everything up. they killed all the rebels, but a lot of the citizens died as well. that isnt exactly "mission acomlished" thats like saying "screw the dead citizens, we got rid of the rebels" do you really want the most powerfull military in the world to "shoot first and ask questions later". not to flame you, but think about it.



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Posted By: goodsmitty
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 4:53pm
Originally posted by paintballa14 paintballa14 wrote:

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

I hope to god she doesnt get elected. She has no business in the white house.

very true, hitlery, ummmm.... i mean hillary wouldent make a very good president. no offense to the ladies, but some women get very emotional, and I dont think we want the most powerfull person in the world getting emotional when terrorists try to destroy our country.

How did you get internet in your cave?



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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 5:19pm
Good lord. I would like to see Hillary as president, it's time we have a regime change.


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 5:24pm
Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by paintballa14 paintballa14 wrote:


Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

I hope to god she doesnt get elected. She has no business in the white house.


very true, hitlery, ummmm.... i mean hillary wouldent make a very good president. no offense to the ladies, but some women get very emotional, and I dont think we want the most powerfull person in the world getting emotional when terrorists try to destroy our country.



How did you get internet in your cave?



Women getting emotional? A woman would be a good asset in the white house. Women at see comanding battleships have shows to put the crew more at ease than a male captain. All i was saying. Is Hilery, doesnt need to be in the whitehouse.

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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 5:26pm
Hillary might be one of the only women in politics that has the smarts and the qualifications to be president.


Posted By: paintballa14
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 6:22pm
Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

THAT's that reason you don't want Hillary as President?  Because she might get "emotional"???

 

that and what was aid above, shes a socialist. what i mean by the emotion thing is, if some counrty attacks us, or our allies, she will act the way bill clinton did in somalia. when those guys from delta force died, he evacuated. all of those men died in vain. i just dont want hillary to piss some country off, start a war, then pull us out because it gets bad. its really hard for me to explain this so bear with me. 



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Posted By: paintballa14
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 6:43pm
Originally posted by goodsmitty goodsmitty wrote:

Originally posted by paintballa14 paintballa14 wrote:

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

I hope to god she doesnt get elected. She has no business in the white house.

very true, hitlery, ummmm.... i mean hillary wouldent make a very good president. no offense to the ladies, but some women get very emotional, and I dont think we want the most powerfull person in the world getting emotional when terrorists try to destroy our country.

 

How did you get internet in your cave?

how did you learn to insult people? sry, but that one just sucked. no offense, but even i can do better then that!



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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 7:23pm
Originally posted by paintballa14 paintballa14 wrote:

Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

THAT's that reason you don't want Hillary as President?  Because she might get "emotional"???

 

that and what was aid above, shes a socialist. what i mean by the emotion thing is, if some counrty attacks us, or our allies, she will act the way bill clinton did in somalia. when those guys from delta force died, he evacuated. all of those men died in vain. i just dont want hillary to piss some country off, start a war, then pull us out because it gets bad. its really hard for me to explain this so bear with me. 

I see someone got their info from "Black Hawk Down."



Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 7:58pm
Yeah guys, we men are always completely rational and logical in our decisions....obviously....no emotion here....lol...

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 8:03pm
Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

Originally posted by paintballa14 paintballa14 wrote:

Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:


THAT's that reason you don't want Hillary as President? Because she might get "emotional"???




that and what was aid above, shes a socialist. what i mean by the emotion thing is, if some counrty attacks us, or our allies, she will act the way bill clinton did in somalia. when those guys from delta force died, he evacuated. all of those men died in vain. i just dont want hillary to piss some country off, start a war, then pull us out because it gets bad. its really hard for me to explain this so bear with me.



I see someone got their info from "Black Hawk Down."



Whenever i go to the pentagon. I like stopping by in the compensation office. A lot of the guy in that office are former or current helo pilots. Two of them were in the Black Hawk Down recovery team. This one guy is very cool. The other guy is HUGE! Nice guys thogh.

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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 8:04pm

Pffft, Who needs Hillary...

Barak Obama for president, 2008.



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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 24 February 2005 at 8:11pm
LOL!!!! ^Nice...^

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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 25 February 2005 at 1:40am

I will say, though...

I will be surprised if we do not see either a woman or minority on a major party ticket in '08.  There are just too many potentials.



Posted By: goodsmitty
Date Posted: 25 February 2005 at 2:33am
Originally posted by paintballa14 paintballa14 wrote:

Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

THAT's that reason you don't want Hillary as President?  Because she might get "emotional"???

 

that and what was aid above, shes a socialist. what i mean by the emotion thing is, if some counrty attacks us, or our allies, she will act the way bill clinton did in somalia. when those guys from delta force died, he evacuated. all of those men died in vain. i just dont want hillary to piss some country off, start a war, then pull us out because it gets bad. its really hard for me to explain this so bear with me. 

If you have to explain that much about your statement, then you aren't telling the truth. You were referring to PMS and we all know it.

I know women who are superior in intelligence and leadership than many testerone-governed men. She will make a fine prez in '08.

HILLARY '08



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Posted By: SeaWolf
Date Posted: 25 February 2005 at 9:52am
goodsmitty for most ignorant forumer of 2005!


you know women can't vote...   



but seriously, she'd be terrible. i can't wait for all you liberal voters to see your mistake...

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 25 February 2005 at 9:59am
Bitting off more than you can chew comes to mind. For democrat to win. You need a sothern, white, male. If you look at the way the US votes. The sothern states will not vote for a woman or a black man. Look at the democrats recently elected. And they are from the south and white protestants. Bill Clinton. As far an im concerned was the first black president. Not because of the scandal thing. But when he would talk with you or shake your hand. He would look at you dead in the face. He wouldnt look at the guy behind you. He would concentrate soley on you. He went around to black churches to speak on sunday. He spoke to the people. In the local vernacular. He didnt cut people out. Thats how he won the elections. Hilary will not win. The south will never elect some bra burning left winger from princeton. Its just not realistic. And as for a black man in the presidential seat. Not gonna happen. Too much in the closet racism in the south.

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Posted By: St. Jimmy
Date Posted: 25 February 2005 at 10:07am

[QUOTE=DBibeau855]Bitting off more than you can chew comes to mind. For democrat to win. You need a sothern, white, male. If you look at the way the US votes. The sothern states will not vote for a woman or a black man. QUOTE]

My Dad told me that once. The South would never vote for a democrat unless he was from a southern state. And if the south doesn't vote for a president he will not win. I'm not sure if he was right, though. I never really did any research on it. He tends to have a biased opinion about some things but not all.



Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 25 February 2005 at 10:10am
We were talking about it in my political science class. If a democrat wasnt from the south. They dont vote for them. There are about 3 or 4 of these guys that won. But if the Dem. Isnt from the south. He is going have a very tough time getting elected.

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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 25 February 2005 at 10:55am
There's definitely a lot of truth to your statements. However, I just don't see how Hillary would be that bad, especially for the choices of women we'd have.


Posted By: WUNgUN
Date Posted: 25 February 2005 at 12:36pm
Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Pffft, Who needs Hillary...


Barak Obama for president, 2008.


One charismatic speach and an appearance on Oprah and a Jr. Senator can get the nod, its easier than I thought! Being a decent orator does not necessarily make you a good candidate. Wait a few years or even decades until the Beltway puts some pressure on Barak and then we shall see what he is made of. At least he admitted he inhaled, repeatedly!

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