This is my opinion. I would be glad to hear yours, but please reinforce your opinion and don't just type one sentence that doesn't describe why you think I'm wrong.

I think Tippmanns, overall, are the best guns you can buy.

Now you might be saying, "Wtf is wrong with you? The new Dye DM28 and my own Angel FruitFly can fire at 58 bps! No Tippy can compare!"
And I say, It doesn't matter how fast you shoot. Why anyone would possibly want to be able to fire past 5 bps is beyond me. There really isn't much point to firing that fast either. Unless of course you happen to enjoy practically shooting money out of your marker (waste of money for paint).

So now you say "Well, theres a lot of Tippmanns out there, and they are all the same black bland color. My new "insert generic high-end marker here" is rare and unique, intimidating my opponents with a gun that they have never once laid eyes on before!"
I say, Sure, everyone wants to be unique and one-of-a-kind. Lets not forget the fact that Tippmanns are the most customizable paintball markers on the face of this planet. You can do anything you want to do to your marker. Some upgrades are as easy as taking apart your gun and putting it back together, while the hardcore people will absolutely destroy a gun attempting to create the ultimate Tippmann powered beast machine. The limit is just how much money and time you are willing to spend on your Tippmann.

But you still might be wondering why I truly believe I think Tippmanns are the best markers you can buy.
Long after any other gun has ceased to function correctly, a Tippmann will still keep on going. You can take your Tippmann anywhere, anytime, in the rain, or in the snow, in the mud, or in the desert. You can drop it on the rocks, you can fling it at your opponents, go swimming with it, you really don't even have to properly maintain it or oil it, and it will still work. Tippmanns are the toughest markers you can buy, and long after your mediocre walmart guns and "high-end" electronic markers have broken down, fallen apart, and are no longer functioning, the Tippmann still works like the day you got it.

You can spend $1200 bucks on a gun with useless features that will need fixing every time you play, or you can spend $200 on one that will never fail you and you can trust. I choose the $200 option.

I'm sure there are people who will disagree on me with this. If you do disagree and wish to post here, make sure to explain why in great detail.
I don't want to sift through worthless posts and look for the ones that have interesting opinions and responses.

i just worked for 10 hours, so im not gonna read it, but i agree with what you said, because tippmann's are the best

You Wont See Me wrote: I agree 110%

Make that 200%

You, Wildfire, are a good man.

Zesty wrote: The way I see it is this: I'm no expert player, but I do like to play as much as possible. I don't want a gun that will hold me back, but I also don't want a gun that simply "does too much." All I need is for my gun to shoot reliably and accurately. Since paintball guns are basically all the same in the accuracy department, I go for reliability. Tippmann is the topdog in this department. Plus the guns are affordable, look cool, and can be upgraded to do "more stuff." I don't need a gun to give me an advantage, I just want it to work. That's why I shoot Tippmann paintguns. Plus, if you really want to rip an A5RT gives you the best of all worlds.

However, I am surprised no one has completely disagreed with me yet.

I mean, I go to my field and have all these kids that say "TIPPMANNS SUCK!" when they either don't own a marker, or have some Walmart Brass Eag
le that falls apart after a month of play.

As for having someone shoot paint at you by the cases, I rely on my teammates to distract, then I run for another bunker, vice-versa, rinse, repeat.
I don't need to shoot a whole hopper at someone to keep them down, maybe 2 or 3 shots every few seconds to let them know that I'm still watching.

rednekk98 wrote: Tippmanns aren't the fastest firing markers out there, the easiest to field strip, the most upgradable(there are definatly more upgrades for cocker's, which are upgraded sniper pumpsanyways) or the most efficient. So they aren't "best" at any of those things. However, I will say they're reliable as heck, modestly priced and overall pretty good. They're probably the best guns out therefor ME.

Plus, when you spend time modding and customizing your marker, you know it is much more different than any out of the box marker. Mine is just mechanical, but is still plenty fast for me.

While we are on durabilty, beat this 98 with your $1200 marker:

This marker was dropped in the sand multiple times, left in the rain several times, had a jug of anti-freeze spilled into it in the back of a truck, and wasn't cleaned for at least 6 months. It also was ran over by a four wheeler once and fell out of my truck (dirt road, only ~20 mph). When it was brought to me for cleaning, the bolts were completely rusted in. It had some nasty sand/paint mix all over the trigger assembly and was generally filthy. I couldn't believe it still worked.

mousewilliams99 wrote: i dont really think there is a best brand of markers because most brands have 1 thing better thatn the other brands weither its speed,acc or whatever

I don't care how fast a marker can shoot. If it falls apart, breaks down, or need maintainence everyday, then its not a good marker IMO.

You cannot define "best marker" because its all an opinion and preference. I personnally like tippmanns, but I like my mech cocker better. Some people just dont like tippmanns. Some people don't mind tweaking there marker(probably not after everygame I mean like 1 time in a day of play). My cocker breaks down rarely because I take good care of it and dont mind taking care of it.

What I am trying to say is that I am not dissagreeing with you but that you can not define the "best marker" because thats an opinion.

Ariakon_Eagle wrote: What I am trying to say is that I am not dissagreeing with you but that you can not define the "best marker" because thats an opinion.

Everyone has their own thoughts, opinions and styles. Each to his own.

We have an oscar winner!!!!

no but it the truth i have an old 98c and afters going to the extreme with it in woods ball meaning it was dropt in rocks, water,swamps and all the sickest places you think a paintballer could hide to get a good kill!!! well it takes it witought probs. (by the way im a woodsball freak) i specialyse in sneaking up to a kill and sneak back out one shot is all i need!!! (NO IM NOT A SNIPER FOR ALL YOU NWB!!!!)

and for one full year of hard core paintball well my gun feels like new!!!

Thx for your post wildfire that was great your a great men!!

                    MY NEW HERO!!!

Wildfire wrote: bravecoward wrote: lol fruitfly, that made my day Your sig made mine

oh also 202%

This marker was dropped in the sand multiple times, left in the rain several times, had a jug of anti-freeze spilled into it in the back of a truck, and wasn't cleaned for at least 6 months. It also was ran over by a four wheeler once and fell out of my truck (dirt road, only ~20 mph). When it was brought to me for cleaning, the bolts were completely rusted in. It had some nasty sand/paint mix all over the trigger assembly and was generally filthy. I couldn't believe it still worked.

Frozen Balls wrote: Wildfire wrote: Now you might be saying, "Wtf is wrong with you? The new Dye DM28 and my own Angel FruitFly can fire at 58 bps! No Tippy can compare!" And I say, It doesn't matter how fast you shoot. In all my days...no finer phrase has ever been written in new players.

true dat

well tippys are good guns but i mean u cant compare a tippmann that cost 200 to a 1200 gun it just doesnt work

true the tippy is more durable becuase they are freakin thick metal on the halves.  but as for a gun that shoots fast breakin down often?  htats BS.  if u dont know how to take care of it then yes it will break but if u know how to take care of it (its not very hard at all just clean the eyes, bolt, barrel, and replace orings if u need to takes less than 15 mintues) tippys just dont require maintanence.  no doubt that for what u use it for a tippmann is perfect for u but for me and other speedballers we need soemthing more to compete better.

procarb11 wrote: low bps doesnt do much for effective lane shooting or keeping opponenents down.

Every second shoot their bunker, and continue to move up. If they stand up or try to fire back, unload on the exposed player and he'll get right back down.

Johndcjr1989 wrote:  for me and other speedballers we need soemthing more to compete better.

It's quite possible to do well at speedball with a nice little Model 98 with no trigger upgrades. You can still keep people down, you just can't fire as fast as other players.
I don't find firing slower to be a disadvantage at all.

And I admit, sometimes I do kind of bash speedballers, but it only happens when I get angry when they act like children and talk about how Tippmanns suck.
I really have nothing against speedball, I just don't like it.
But, I do hope that someday the barrier between woodsballers and speedballers can be broken.

i am not trying to flame or anything, its just in my opinion i like a faster gun a little more. Its not because im willing to pay for all the paint, which takes me for ever to get the money to buy. I just like the feel of knowing that your opponent has no chance in the world of getting out of that bunker without being hit. Now yes, i agree that tippmanns are very reliable and hardly ever break down, but this occurs with other guns too. As said above all high end markers do not break down, they can, but they dont always, it just depends on how you take care of them. But yes, i do think tippys are a very good gun for people that play different types and have an espesially good feel for them.

And i agree, that statement you made made my day

procarb11 wrote: one ball per second wont keep me behind a bunker, if someone is just tapping my bunker once a second, there is gonna be a greater chance for me to snap shoot and hit the opponent

procarb11 wrote: one ball per second is also not effective for lane shooting, the more paint you put down a lane, the closer the balls are together, meaning the less likely that the opponent is gonna be able to run through the rope of paint and not get hit.

Of course, this all applies that our teammates are all busy doing something else and its practically you vs me. You've always got teammates to cover you.

I guess that fast markers work for your style, and slower ones work for my style. I think I would do fine in any kind of speedball game, but I guess I definitely wouldn't be using any of the normal tactics you see in most speedball games.

Zesty wrote: In other words, they aren't even shooting AT YOU...just in FRONT of you, so you run into it.

Typically, I don't move unless my opponents move, so I try to force them into a situation where they have to move, or just stay there until I can get my teammates to flank him.

But perhaps you are right, and I just don't have enough experience on a real speedball field to know if my tactics would work.

Of course, every once in a while I do practice things like snapshooting, as it does help quite often.

I live in the desert, so my field is basically desert with lots of junk on it as bunkers. We have little wooden houses, plenty of wooden bunkers covered in camoflauge netting, oil drum barrels, and that sort of thing.

Perhaps I'll ask if I can set up the Airball field next time to get more speedball practice. I actually have never played with those bunkers before.