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Topic: 16" useless
Posted By: Shrapnel
Subject: 16" useless
Date Posted: 10 March 2005 at 10:34pm
from what i hear anything longer than a 14" berral is just useless, is this true?



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Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 10 March 2005 at 10:52pm
Aye.

Past 14 inches its a waste of gas.  Slows down the ball and decreases range.

BTW, not really an idea, would have fit better in New Players


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Posted By: IONKID
Date Posted: 14 March 2005 at 3:42pm
I have a 16 " ARMSON STEALTH SNIPER BARREL for my 98 C and it works better than any 14" I have ever used....
gas isn't such a big deal, because a couple more inches isnt gonna change it too bad.  If you worry too much about gas, you will never fully appreciate paintball.


Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 14 March 2005 at 3:49pm
Go get an AT-16 and tell me that it isn't one of the most accurate guns you have ever shot. 23" barrel.

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Posted By: RamboBlue
Date Posted: 14 March 2005 at 4:12pm

i have a 21" razzor barrel and it shoots further and straighter than any barel i have ever had

 



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Posted By: dtfastj
Date Posted: 14 March 2005 at 4:31pm
Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

Go get an AT-16 and tell me that it isn't one of the most accurate guns you have ever shot. 23" barrel.
Has less to do with the barrel and more to do with the marker itself.  I use a 16in AA but its not any more or less accurate than a 12 or 10 or 14 in aa.  16 was just all they had it stock at the time.  As long as you buy a high quality barrel its going to shoot straight.

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Posted By: triggerhappy1
Date Posted: 14 March 2005 at 5:08pm

You can turn that velocity screw as far out as you want and you will get exactly the same efficiancy. The velocity screw does not change the dwell at all. Only RVAs, differant drive springs, or anything affecting spring tension will affect the dwell. The velocity screw just indirects the air's path.

The size of the barrel is all up to you. Try before you buy. Over 14in will affect velocity, but not by extreme amounts. So just turn up your velocity when you chrono. You will not waste air using just the velocity screw!



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Posted By: A5 dude15
Date Posted: 14 March 2005 at 5:49pm
Originally posted by RamboBlue RamboBlue wrote:

i have a 21" razzor barrel and it shoots further and straighter than any barel i have ever had

 

i can guarentee you that it does not shoot further than other barrels.  the only barrels there are that affect distance are the flatline for tippmanns and the hop up for armotechs.


Posted By: turismomtrx
Date Posted: 14 March 2005 at 10:36pm
^ indeed they have researched this and a paintball statisticall only needs about 10inch barrel. 14 is the basic limit. a apintball only needs about 7inches of no porting and the rest is fine. anyhting further than 14inches WILL cause more friction whcih will induce the player to add more velocity inducing wastes of gas. not only statistics prove right, but my own experience alon with others. my lapco bigshot7.5in shot almost just as accurate as my lapco bigshot 14inch. however my friends J&J 10 inch was perfect in size and same, if not better, accuracy as my 14inch. nuff said


Posted By: Hella Cool
Date Posted: 14 March 2005 at 10:58pm
Originally posted by RamboBlue RamboBlue wrote:

i have a 21" razzor barrel and it shoots further and straighter than any barel i have ever had


I guess you haven't had a Flatline.



Posted By: MT. Vigilante
Date Posted: 15 March 2005 at 10:25am

Originally posted by Shrapnel Shrapnel wrote:

from what i hear anything longer than a 14" berral is just useless, is this true?

Like someone else stated, its all has to do with how good the Marker is. But if you do put the barrel on a good Marker, then ( in terms of accuracy) the longer the better, just like old smoothbore Muskets. But then you have to consider that the longer the barrel gets, the more it gets in your way, so I say that the longest you should get is a 16 inch.



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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 15 March 2005 at 11:29am
Originally posted by IONKID IONKID wrote:

I have a 16 " ARMSON STEALTH SNIPER BARREL for my 98 C and it works better than any 14" I have ever used....
gas isn't such a big deal, because a couple more inches isnt gonna
change it too bad.  If you worry too much about gas, you will
never fully appreciate paintball.


y r u IONKID if u use a 98c

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Posted By: eaglesin05
Date Posted: 16 March 2005 at 5:40pm
Yes

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Posted By: HITMAN 4 HIRE
Date Posted: 17 March 2005 at 6:32pm
It's a waste of gas past 8 inches, and most short barrels have the same accuracy as longer barrels, but I've found that a 16inch will usually outperform a 8inch any day.

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Posted By: HITMAN 4 HIRE
Date Posted: 17 March 2005 at 6:33pm

Originally posted by bluemunky42 bluemunky42 wrote:

Originally posted by IONKID IONKID wrote:

I have a 16 " ARMSON STEALTH SNIPER BARREL for my 98 C and it works better than any 14" I have ever used....
gas isn't such a big deal, because a couple more inches isnt gonna
change it too bad.  If you worry too much about gas, you will
never fully appreciate paintball.


y r u IONKID if u use a 98c

don't post if it has nothing to do with the thread please.



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Posted By: HITMAN 4 HIRE
Date Posted: 17 March 2005 at 6:35pm
Originally posted by Hella Cool Hella Cool wrote:

Originally posted by RamboBlue RamboBlue wrote:

i have a 21" razzor barrel and it shoots further and straighter than any barel i have ever had


I guess you haven't had a Flatline.

flatlines are nice and dandy when it comes to distance, but speed and drifting is what kills its awesome accuracy down. a regular barrel could out perform the flatline i believe.  i've use many flatlines before and wasn't that impressed.



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Posted By: Hella Cool
Date Posted: 17 March 2005 at 7:17pm
Originally posted by HITMAN 4 HIRE HITMAN 4 HIRE wrote:

Originally posted by Hella Cool Hella Cool wrote:

Originally posted by RamboBlue RamboBlue wrote:

i have a 21" razzor barrel and it shoots further and straighter than any barel i have ever had


I guess you haven't had a Flatline.

flatlines are nice and dandy when it comes to distance, but speed and drifting is what kills its awesome accuracy down. a regular barrel could out perform the flatline i believe.  i've use many flatlines before and wasn't that impressed.



I was referencing his statement about shooting further.


Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 17 March 2005 at 8:24pm
heh,

My 6 inch Freak, pwns my 14" CP Barrel.


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Posted By: HITMAN 4 HIRE
Date Posted: 17 March 2005 at 8:26pm
Originally posted by Hella Cool Hella Cool wrote:

Originally posted by HITMAN 4 HIRE HITMAN 4 HIRE wrote:

Originally posted by Hella Cool Hella Cool wrote:

Originally posted by RamboBlue RamboBlue wrote:

i have a 21" razzor barrel and it shoots further and straighter than any barel i have ever had


I guess you haven't had a Flatline.

flatlines are nice and dandy when it comes to distance, but speed and drifting is what kills its awesome accuracy down. a regular barrel could out perform the flatline i believe.  i've use many flatlines before and wasn't that impressed.



I was referencing his statement about shooting further.
i know

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Posted By: sniperman282
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 8:51am

my 18in dye boomb stick is accurate but my 14in gta sniper barrel is just as good and i dont really notice a diffrance in gas

 



Posted By: Psycho5785
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 9:38am
Wow. Thats all I can say.

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Posted By: MT. Vigilante
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 10:22am

Originally posted by HITMAN 4 HIRE HITMAN 4 HIRE wrote:

It's a waste of gas past 8 inches, and most short barrels have the same accuracy as longer barrels, but I've found that a 16inch will usually outperform a 8inch any day.

And that is because longer barrels actually have better accuracy than shorter barrels. After all, it wouldn’t make much sense if shorter barrels were just as accurate as longer barrels but a 16 inch still beets a 8 inch. In other words, this statement; “...but I’ve found that a 16 inch will outperform an 8inch any day.” proves this statement wrong; “... and most short barrels have the same accuracy as long barrels.” No offense to you, I don’t mean to do that or to make you mad but you obviously don’t have much experience with paintball Markers.



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