Why consoles are better then computers.
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Topic: Why consoles are better then computers.
Posted By: Hysteria
Subject: Why consoles are better then computers.
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 1:46am
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<Yvon> wow <Yvon> the cell in the ps3 is basically 9 **edited**ty cpus stuck onto one pcb <hysteria> ok <hysteria> 9 **edited**ty cpus > 1 good one <Yvon> not really <Yvon> they're like, original pentiums <Yvon> they strapped 9 of em together and gace them a ton of bandwidth <Yvon> gave* <Hitman> how is this bad? <Hitman> nine cpus can be doing nine times the work? <Hitman> but i am probably wrong]] <Yvon> nine pentium 1s <Hitman> i cant see them making the PS3 bad <Hitman> but if they did, its a bloody shame. <hysteria> using keith logic: 9 pentium 1s = pentium 9 (because 9 x 1 = 9). a pentium 9 is almost twice as good as your pentium 4. <hysteria> so ha <Yvon> lmao <Hitman> pwned So it is settled, consoles are better then computers for playing games. |
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Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 1:47am
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/me awaits post by Enos
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 1:51am
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Don't hold ye breath. Yes. I ment to say ye. |
Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 1:53am
ummm... umm... 
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Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 5:56am
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But PC is still WAY more fun to play on.
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Posted By: For Honor
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 6:31am
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comp is superior, the advantage consoles have is that they dont have to match games to different compadibilites. Comp games have to be able to support diff grafic cards, diff amounts of ram, etc. While with console they dont have to do that since there is only one scenario. ------------- 
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Posted By: Strife_17
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 6:36am
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his logic is flawed when it come to the prossecors. the pentium 1 poseesor is what anyone who has used a computer made in the last year would think is slow as heck that becuase they are. 9 pentium 1 prosseors would hardly equal a pentium 9. they'd be lucky if they could compare with a pentium 3. =) anyway althopugh consoles are easier to use when playing i like computer better if and only if the computer is built in a way to accomidate for the need for gamplay. console>school computer 3.6ghz pent IIII 2 mb rame dualr 80 gig hardraive raid control and a nice radion card >console just my two cents =) |
Posted By: Mad Psience
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 6:42am
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6 ghz.. get off the crack. it would melt. X-box 2 runs off of 3 3.5 ghz PowerPC processors (all better than a P4) and has far more power than a PC for games also considering it's 256mb of NON video memory are 100% devoted to the game (unlike a PC where less than half would be) ------------- 
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Posted By: AdmiralSenn
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 7:21am
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No, consoles are turning INTO computers, proving that computers are superior.
Computers also don't require you to buy hugely expensive new machines and a whole new set of games every year or so. When Halo came out for PC, you could run it on some really crappy machines, even though it was meant for fairly modern ones. Those people weren't forced to buy a few hundred dollars' worth of equipment to play it. I'm just waiting for someone to write an operating system that's entirely barebones and devotes all system resources to applications. There's also the idea that someone could invent a way to just not have an OS, and use some other way to run games. You could have an OS on a separate part of the drive and boot from it when you were done. In any event, PC > console. There is more PC technology being hijacked for consoles than vice versa, and the ideas I outlined would actually be a regression of technology for PCs - they used to have systems like that, and that's probably where console designers got the idea. ------------- Is God real? You'll find out when you die. 
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Posted By: Koolit32
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 7:47am
| When Dual-SLI is actually affordable, it will be the downfall of consoles. |
Posted By: SeaWolf
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 9:26am
don't u mean "better than"...
don't u mean pentium IV... sry, had to do it
so anyways, in response to Hysteria: Game consoles are never going to surpass computers. The processors will always be faster, the RAM will always be more plentiful, and the graphics cards will always be superior... Plus, first-person shooters suck with a hand-held controller. nice try ------------- 
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Hysteria wrote:Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 9:59am
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By far. -me ------------- 
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Posted By: LastShot0330
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 10:15am
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Well in my situation my GCN is better cuz my comp is SLOW. Yeah thats right I rock a Game Cube what about it? ------------- [IMG]http://www.zmachars.com/emb%20patches/The-Used-Logo_P-752_small.jpg"> |
Posted By: [Mr. Smith]
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 10:39am
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yeah, im buying a new computer pretty soon, built around to be able to
play games. I'll proabally post my specs im gettign to get your
opinions. PC games gets my vote.  ------------- Proud owner of an ACE'd 2K3 matrix  |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 10:48am
I'm from the south.... wuddya expect?
Yeah, but it depends on the consumer's stand point. For me to play games on the computer, for example, I would have to go out and lay down $500 to get a decent machine. For you to play games on the console you would have to go and spend $150 on one. "[A] whole new set of games every year." what are you talking about? Aside from MMORPGs (is that right? ) A consoler can play a game for just as long as a computer-er. |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 11:49am
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Computer games innovate, consoles immitate. Id rather have original quality games than rehashed crap that caters to 10 year old ADD freaks. ------------- 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 12:23pm
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I like consoles more simply because i hate having to download a CD onto my computer and doing all that crap. Ide rather just stick a game in and play. The fact of the mater is consoles are catching up with PCs. XBox is already running all sorts of programs found on computers. These up comming consoles will be very powerful and will have multiple tasks. Soemthing like 3 differnt x box 2s. Who wants to spend 500 dollars on a computer, 500 on more memory and graphics prosessor. Or would you want to pay 300 for a next gen console. I just pulled that priice out of the air i dont know how much they will be. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors"> 
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Posted By: DracoPlasm
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 1:00pm
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I dont think consoles are "better" then PC for gaming but i do preffer it more no downloading the CD's i like usin a controler can play a good game on a system that cost a few hundred rather then payin 600-800 just so the game isent laggy ------------- 
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Posted By: Frozen
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 1:04pm
| I like consoles more. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 1:04pm
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Posted By: xteam02001
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 1:28pm
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think about it. when the ps3 and xbox 360 come out the hardware will be
old. Computers get faster and newer technologies everyday. when the ps3
and xbox 360 come out with the multi-core cpu's, maybe the pc world
will find a completely different architecture for a cpu that only uses
one core but uses the speed of light to process information. there is
no point for a high end cpu in a console. a good video card and ram
will do all the work. im guessing that all this hype about the
multi-core cpu's in these consoles is all just for show. Console
companies love to use buzz words. i want my console to be as fast if
not faster than my home computer.
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Posted By: Frozen
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 1:32pm
| Ok, I still like consoles more though... |
Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 1:39pm
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Computers, better for RPS, and FPS. Consoles, better for sports games. RPS= Role playing strategy FPS= First Person Shooter ------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site 
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Posted By: Frozen
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 1:41pm
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Ahh, I'll give you that. Diablo and the like belong on computers. Racing games, games like Zelda, etc, work great on consoles. |
Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 1:59pm
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oh and for the person that said consoles are catching up...... In your dreams. The Xbox is just starting to run programs that computers can???? Yeah, I think the X-box caught up with my old 400 mghz system. Its about the same level. (whether its actually faster or not). ------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site
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Posted By: _TT_
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 2:21pm
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Games are made on computers. They can work just fine, great graphics, and you can tailor your computer for them.
When they are ported over to consoles, they are dumbed down, the graphics are reworked, the sound is sub par, and the vid scenes shortened and modified to work Simply put, consoles are cheaper, but so is the quality of the game you get. |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 3:31pm
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I like consoles best. My computer can't handle some of the "good" computer games.
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Posted By: dtfastj
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 3:41pm
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 3:46pm
You tell that to the creators of the MG series. PC > Console. ------------- |
Posted By: Frozen
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 3:47pm
| wtf is MG? |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 3:50pm
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doesnt a vote for xbox really go for computers? i mean it IS made by
microsoft, and sony(ps2 for the idiots out there) has only made the
Vaio(sp?)
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Posted By: Strife_17
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 4:28pm
don't u mean pentium IV... sry, had to do it i kenw there was soemthign wrong with all those i s it was early in the morning didnt have anby caffene or sugar in me yet |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 4:31pm
Metal Gear....you know MGS, MGS2, MGS Snake Eater... ------------- |
Posted By: SeaWolf
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 4:32pm
| hehe... |
Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 4:32pm
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Posted By: Frozen
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 4:34pm
Never heard of any but the original, but ok.
gosh you're so smart!  |
Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 4:40pm
| I prefer consoles but pc's are better. Face it they have more functions and they are upgradable. Not to mention a much wider selection of games. |
Posted By: Variable
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 5:27pm
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The "Cell" processor just has 8 extra floating-point processing
devices. It does not have 9 fully-functional cores like most
people are led to believe. This is great if all the instructions
that the computer will process all require decimal values (which games
do) but for the ones that don't there isn't any spectacular performance
boost. "Cell" is mostly hype and is far from the PC killer
everyone says it is.
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Posted By: AdmiralSenn
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 7:32pm
A whole new set of games every year. X-box 2 games will probably not work on X-box 1. Ditto for PS2 and PS1. It's forwards compatible, but not backwards. Computers in general allow a person to use new games on crappy machines for a while, until the game requires something a computer doesn't have, like an AGP port on an all-PCI machine. Reread my first post. ------------- Is God real? You'll find out when you die.
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 7:35pm
Oh em ge, some people may not have enough money to just go out and buy a new computer. lollolol |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 7:37pm
Yeah. Uh, PS2 games do infact play PS1 games. Now weither or not the same can be said for the new Xbox is yet to be known. I just remembered - Back in the days of roller coaster tycoon, my stepdad brought his computer home one day, which at the time was top of the line, and I tried to play roller coaster tycoon on it. Not only were the functions going 2x as fast, but after about two minutes the game would crash. How about them apples? |
Posted By: Burnt Fingers
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 7:50pm
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Who cares a **edited**? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/worldchampion29/?chartstyle=sideGrey"> 
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Posted By: Variable
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 8:11pm
Operator error? Computers do exactly what you tell them to do...its just that most people don't have a clue what they are really telling the computers to do. PCs will always edge out consoles because of their versatility. Consoles will never have the longevity that PCs have if not only for the simple fact that they cannot be customized. When a console gets outdated you have to buy a whole new one; when the same thing happens to a PC you just crack open the case and replace whatever component is holding you back. -------------
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 8:56pm
No. I was damn good at that game (if I do say so myself  ). I did nothing different on his computer then I would have on mine, so it was the computer that messed up. |
Posted By: Frozen
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 9:01pm
ehhh, if I may interject for a moment... I've had my N64 for 5 years now. It still works perfectly, all the game still work, and I haven't had to buy a $300 video card to keep up with the times, either. It's just as fun as it was when I first recieved it. Now, find me a single computer that you can say the same about without having replaced $250 worth of parts. |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 9:34pm
Mine. A TI-4200 AGPx8 (Very very outdated if you don't know). I plan on playing the upcomming games on it such as BF2 and GR2, unless I rack up $200 for a new Vid card. At the moment I am playing RvS on it, and I achieve usually 70-100 FPS at 1024x768. ------------- |
Posted By: Frozen
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 9:37pm
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Ok, you win. Now, could you stop using annoying abbreviations that non computer nerds don't understand? |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 9:39pm
Why not actually try and learn something? ------------- |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 9:39pm
Until, I get my adaptor for my xbox, I am not even playing my console. ------------- 
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Posted By: Frozen
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 9:41pm
Knowing video game abbreviations does not count as knowledge. |
Posted By: Variable
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 10:09pm
But you can't modify your N64 to play the newest nintendo games...whereas in the same situation you most likely could with a pc. That was the point I was making, and I think you missed it the first time around. -------------
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Posted By: Frozen
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 10:10pm
| Yes, I would have to buy a new $150 dollar system. You would have to buy a $300 video card, more ram, etc. Have fun! |
Posted By: Variable
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 10:14pm
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If I wanted the best then yes, not everyone has to shell out $300 for a
top of the line video card and then another $300 for some name brand
RAM that is never going to be overclocked.
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Posted By: AdmiralSenn
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 9:15am
Can you read? I was talking about putting PS2 games on a PS1. I know they can go the other way - PS1 to PS2... like I said, forward compatibility vs reverse compatibility. The point is that when the PS2 came out, to play new games you have to buy a new console. HAVE TO, if you want to play the new games. And with computers, you can go for a whole lot longer before buying new technology. I played America's Army on my mom's computer for about three versions after it was well below the minimum specs. It worked fine. And if RC wasn't playing right, it was probably your fault. Obviously I can't tell since 'top of the line' doesn't mean anything, but if it was modern technology then you probably screwed it up. This is why we have consoles - for the people with the attention span of a fly who can't wait to install a game in return for better performance. (Not you, Hysteria, but I know a lot of people like that). ------------- Is God real? You'll find out when you die.
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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 11:18am
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Posted By: Frozen
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 11:29am
I could break you with my little finger. Gamecube is fun if you get the right games, and actually have friends to play with.  |
Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 1:08pm
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Some people can't afford thousand dollar gaming PC's. Most people can afford a gaming console. If you can't afford to get all the amazing stuff that you can up your pc with, who cares, get a game console. ------------- 
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 1:54pm
I doubt the xbox will be able to have backwards compatability since the xbox is going to use an IBM PPC processor and the current xbox uses an X86 based intel. So unless there is a built in emulator it will be pretty much impossible. I for one feel this is a good thing because I don't feel a new system should be held back to hold on to the standards of the old one, a console should go for as best as possible. As for the tycoon thing, more than likely it is your fault but it could also be bad programming that just uses the processor as a timer so it would go faster on a faster computer and then overloads a variable. Chances are slim of that on a modern professional game but you never know. ------------- 
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