cocker
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Topic: cocker
Posted By: omenowner
Subject: cocker
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 5:06pm
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is it tru that the cocker gun gets out of time really easy |
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Posted By: LordCaliber
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 5:12pm
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time....? what are u talking about
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Posted By: omenowner
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 5:14pm
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well when i went to my pb shop to get a new gun i asked them
about the cocker and they saic dotn get it cuz it will go out of time
really easy and u wont be able to shoot it and he said that it wouldent shoot |
Posted By: SeaWolf
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 5:29pm
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...it doesn't go out of time easily.
you just have to re-time it everytime you install a new part or something. ------------- 
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Posted By: omenowner
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 5:32pm
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is that hard??? |
Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 5:53pm
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i fail to understand what "going out of time" means ------------- 
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 5:55pm
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its not hard to time after you learn how. autocockers are great guns. some one on this forum once said autocockers are for certain people. if you are the type to fall off a bike and blame the bike dont get a cocker. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: Impulsive
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 9:18pm
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Cockers are truly works of art and aren't for those not so mechanically inclined.
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Posted By: A-5 08
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 10:01pm
exactly, don't whine just fix the problem, once you do something to your cocker it has to be retimed but when timed right it rips take care of it and it will take care of you |
merc wrote:Posted By: nofxrules98
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 10:05pm
| WTF IS TIMED! |
Posted By: SeaWolf
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 10:22pm
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^^^ wow... try an autococker forum. I'll explain it to you, though.
On an autococker, you basically have 2 systems going. When you pull the trigger, it releases the hammer, opens the valve, and shoots your paintball. With the same trigger pull, your timing-rod moves through a piece of metal that directs gas through the pneumatics on the front. It pressurizes the ram, causing the gun to recock. "Timing" an autococker is the act of synchronizing these movements, so that they all happen in the correct order, quickly and smoothly. -------------
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Posted By: omenowner
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 12:02am
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what do u guys think of a trilogy |
Posted By: DrunkDriver
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 12:45am
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It's a good gun but I don't think you can upgrade it with an eblade. Maybe I am thinking about a different one, I know there are a few that will not work with the eblade. If you ever plan on upgrading it, get an 03 or 04. ------------- http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=260991706090alb8rs.jpg"> 
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Posted By: omenowner
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 1:07am
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what about this frame http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/1158/ |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 3:03am
what he meant to say is search for the answer...there are dozens of threads asking that question and you shouldn't hijack someone else's thread to get your own questions answered. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: paintball_playa
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 10:58am
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i know for a fact that the trilogys cannot be electronified at this point, if your going for an autococker then go with a 03 or 04 ------------- 2004 ICD BKO Dye Sticky 3s CP Regulator Vapor Valve Custom Cut Bolt Removed Trigger Spring CP Gauge 2k4 Chaos Board |
Posted By: P8ntbalpro
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 2:51pm
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Yes, there is timing as SeaWolf wrote. Sometimes they do "come out of timing". But it easy as long as you have the E-blade. I am not sure about the others (E2, etc...). But with the E-blade, turn the trigger frame on. Then open the grip. Inside you will see a little red button. Press it. Then a new menu will open on the LCD. Scroll through that and play around with it. I was actually able to make my Karnivor shoot faster (25 bps) when I played with the settings. I lit a guy up with it, and he was in so much pain. ------------- Paintball Pro |
I actually felt bad for him.Posted By: PB_freak-04
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 5:50pm
25 bps huh?...no one can pull the trigger that fast with out illegal setting. Im a little smarter than the player who thinks a finger can actually move at 19bps, or two fingers can drum a trigger at 25bps. Slowly say the words ''one thousand'', and in that time span do ANYTHING (blink, drumroll, tap) 19 times. You cant without help! ------------- Capt.EAST COAST CREW** 
www.autocockerhelp.tk |
Posted By: omenowner
Date Posted: 20 March 2005 at 3:12am
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should i just get it though considering that im new to cockers and it isent that expencive
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 20 March 2005 at 10:22am
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if you are new get a nightkast or a karnivor(hehehe) just playing, you should look at the Vert Feeds, a shot a one yesterday at the field, and if my new gun wasnt already in the mail, id consider buying one ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: tony d.
Date Posted: 20 March 2005 at 2:26pm
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I am new to the sport so can someone tell me what a response trigger does??? |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 20 March 2005 at 2:50pm
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DO A SEARCH AND DONT TRY TO HIJACK A THREAD
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Posted By: omenowner
Date Posted: 20 March 2005 at 7:09pm
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well i dont have that much and i dont really want to buy an expensive gun
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 20 March 2005 at 7:39pm
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a stock cocker is about the same as a stock omen...$329 for an omen ~$350$ for a 2004 cocker...
wait untill the 05 cockers come out and the 04 cockers will be about 270$ at paintballdiscounters.com ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: omenowner
Date Posted: 20 March 2005 at 7:42pm
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ok and i cant afforde hpa or if i had it i would have to go to the next state to fill it so right now i only have co2 |
Posted By: SeaWolf
Date Posted: 20 March 2005 at 8:23pm
mid- and high-end guns dont like CO2. as for your question about the Reflex frame, I used one on my last cocker. It was a nice gun, but it shouldn't be your first upgrade. If u do end up buying a cocker, send me a private message, and I'll help you out with upgrading. 
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Posted By: omenowner
Date Posted: 20 March 2005 at 9:57pm
| ok |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 21 March 2005 at 3:07pm
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wow, lovin that cocker ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Ariakon_Eagle
Date Posted: 21 March 2005 at 3:43pm
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Yeah, just about everyone does. Except its not in his hands anymore. I ended up with it. ------------- You call the Eagle, Eagle does the rest. |
Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 21 March 2005 at 4:18pm
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Just watch this, it isnt that hard. http://www.cockertech.com/tech_videos.shtml - http://www.cockertech.com/tech_videos.shtml ------------- 
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 21 March 2005 at 4:32pm
guess ill have to worship you now instead....DANGITT, after spending all that time taking pictures of him and building an altar in my closet i have to start all over again, where do you live? just kidding, ill start worshiping myself wedsnday ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: omenowner
Date Posted: 21 March 2005 at 9:03pm
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thx for all of ur help timing dosent look hard at all so now im deffently getting a cocker
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Posted By: Rare-Faction
Date Posted: 21 March 2005 at 10:16pm
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*has to put in his 2 cents* Like someone explained, timing is basically getting all the mechanics of an autococker to go in the right sequence. If you don't know what you're doing or are new to it, timing can be a pretty scary thing. However, if you don't play with stuff you don't know about, you'll never have to worry about it. Example I've owned a Black Magic for almost a year. She was timed when I got her. I havn't upgraded any of the pneumatics (the shiny bits up front under the barrel), or done any other major upgrades to the gun. Nor have I decided to take her apart 'just for the fun of it'. She'd never gone out of time. Out of all the guns I've ever had, this is the one that's never let me down. The bottom line is, the guy who you talked to was an idiot who decided to play with something he didn't understand. If/when you get a 'cocker and have any questions, feel free to PM me here, or on the PBnation boards under the name Rare Faction; I'd be happy to help you out ------------- 
Central Ohio Pirates http://www.lolligag.net - My Band, Lolligag |
Posted By: omenowner
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 3:27pm
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thanks for all that help and i have found an cocker i bought it for 319 dollers pretty cheap
well if u want to see it here it is http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7143700367&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&i tem=7143700367&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 3:38pm
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nice, i think it deserves an aftermarket barrel tho
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Posted By: omenowner
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 4:44pm
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i have a freak that im gunna put on it and is there any way i could use co2 with it |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 6:10pm
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i think you can anti-syphon through a cocker, but im just sorta talking
from "i think i read..." might want to wait for someone who actually
knows what they are talking about
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 6:56pm
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i noticed you were talking about a new frame, i saw this on my local forum and HAD to show you Ripper USF - Ultimate Shocker Frame  The new Ripper USF (Ultimate Shocker Frame) is the end all be all of Shocker frames. The trigger guard is huge (over 3/8 of an inch wider than stock), it has a built in dovetail rail, and the standard polarity trigger return makes even the stock Shocker trigger rip. It uses: Any '03 Shocker trigger Standard .45 grips Any board that will fit in a stock frame They will come with the following hardware: Grip Screws Magnet Mount Screw/Forward Stop Return Magnet Magnetic Force Adjuster (replaces the stock forward stop screw in the trigger) Dovetail Clamp Screw Bottom Line Screws All the Allen keys needed to install and adjust it This thing has the biggest guard that you can get, and as you can see, it doesn't require a 15 deg ASA. More info and ordering can be found here - http://www.logicpaintball.com/cgi-bin/mivavm?Merchant2/merchant.mvc+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LP&Product_Code=RipperUSF - http://www.logicpaintball.com/cgi-bin/mivavm?Merchant2/merch ant.mvc+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LP&Product_Code=Rippe rUSF
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Posted By: omenowner
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 7:16pm
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all righty and nice shocker i like the red and sliver
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 7:19pm
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whoops, this is the wrong thread...hehehe, someone was looking for a new frame my fault
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Posted By: SeaWolf
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 8:08pm
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lol... yea, no kidding.
i was like  what is going on...-------------
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Posted By: omenowner
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 9:12pm
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lol who cares still
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