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Topic: ...so..flashy new sigs...mmm hotness
Posted By: nickman98
Subject: ...so..flashy new sigs...mmm hotness
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 8:16pm
| thats right whos got a new sig...nickmans got a new sig...oh and hades too..thanks to hades for the hot new outspoken sig...eat it...eat it hard.. |
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 8:20pm
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Nice, Very nice. I should update mine  ------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 8:20pm
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But Jesus>you.
------------- Something unknown is doing we don't know what. That is what our knowledge amounts to. - Sir Arthur Eddington |
Posted By: nickman98
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 8:23pm
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me>trogdor2 |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 8:29pm
| me > Jesus |
Posted By: TheUnknown.
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 8:29pm
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I don't get it...
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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 8:31pm
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me>all+jesus ------------- 
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Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 8:36pm
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that isn't funny
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 8:40pm
| Really... *>nickman98 (and everyone who thinks thats funny) |
Posted By: AdmiralSenn
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 8:57pm
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You do know that Christians didn't crucify Jesus, I hope. ------------- Is God real? You'll find out when you die. 
Okay, I don't have a clever signature zinger. So sue me. |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 9:00pm
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Hades>Me>Everything>Religon ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 9:00pm
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So I overhead a conversation at work today. It took place between two co-workers of mine: a Christian widow, whose husband has died within the past month and a Buddhist woman. The Buddist woman was trying to learn why Easter was a holiday and what some of the activities that take place on the day are all about. The Christian widow responded that it is to celebrate the resurection of Christ on the third day of his death. {I didnt have a problem with that, it is her belief and she is entitled to it.} The Buddhist woman continued asking questions, about why Easter eggs were hunted, what was the deal with the rabbits? The Christian widow responds to those questions with, "Oh that is just American's trying to commericalize the holiday and make money off of it. [This answer was what upset me.] I didnt have a problem about her giving her beliefs but for her to incorrectly portray another's belief is not tolerable. Had I wished to upset the widow, I would have walked over and corrected her. Tommorow, I will imform the Buddhist as to why there is an Easter bunny and egg hunts.
It isnt because of greedy American commericalism. For those curious or uninformed: Google: Spring Equinox The Eggs and Bunnies stand for Fertility and the rebirth of the Dead of Winter. The Christian's didnt crucify Jesus, sure. But it was all part of God's plan to allow for forgiveness. Whomever one wishes to pin the actual killing on is irrelevant. They were just pawns in God's plan... ------------- 
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Posted By: P!NK panther
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 9:01pm
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whats with all the comparing? ------------- http://www.theimagehosting.com"> 
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Posted By: nickman98
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 9:17pm
| me>all who suck and cant deal with people who express what the belive so harshly.. |
Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 9:19pm
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Mine is pretty cool.
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 9:20pm
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Good family values are teaching why he was tortured..... But obviously, your to shallow to see that. ------------- |
Posted By: nickman98
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 9:34pm
| or maybe...just maybe...letting your kids figure out all of this stuff for themselves? |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 9:38pm
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So one is shallow because they think the best plan a God can come up with to save mankind is having your first born son killed is sub-par? -------------
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 10:07pm
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Yes, let's all jump on the bandwagon to hate God.
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 10:13pm
Nice way to distort what needs to be truely said with mis-wording. You know as well as I why christ was crucified, and you really want to know what I think? You have such a strong concept and grasp of religion, that you really know what will happen when you die, and your life is awful. Yet, you hide behind religious humor and your wall of denial in order to stay away from what you really know is right. ------------- |
Hades wrote:Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 10:16pm
Yea, I let my kid learn to read on his own too. (sarcasm) So what do you explain when adults feel the so called "guilt"? It's not childish anymore, yet a child who doesn't have pride and isn't afraid of a moments embarrassment for a lifelong decision is more likely to surrender their life. ------------- |
Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 10:18pm
Let the Hades ass-kissing begin! ------------- 
sporx wrote: well...ya i prolly will be a virgin till i'm at least 30. |
Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 10:23pm
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Nice. -me ------------- 
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Posted By: Koolit32
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 10:28pm
| I thought it was funny. |
Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 10:30pm
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What ever you believe without question is your reality... To each his own, I myself am a christian, However, Nick has his own opinion and that is fine... No need to get all Radical about it (refering to both parties) My 10 mins of internet were used to consider this post, I hope my response isn't a complete waist of time. ------------- |
Posted By: nickman98
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 10:33pm
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well seeings how i'm old enough to make my own choices i chose not the beleive in god, and i decided to express my belife in sig form..i'd say i was sorry for getting everyone all upset, but i'd rather not. its one thing to teach your child to read, its quite another to force your religious belifes on them. when i was a kid i went to catholic mass couple times..lutheran church a couple times, and something else i cant remember right now. and know what, i'm none of those, you know why, because i went hey, this isnt for me, if i want a fairy tale i'll read peter pan...but guess what else..i let the kids i take care of chose thier own way if they bring up a book about god or something, i'll read it to them. and if thier mommy and daddy talk to them about god and they want to tell me, i nod, and reassure them. my kids wont be brought up to love religion, mine will be brought up to make thier own choices. if you want a bandwagon to jump on, by all means, chose a different one, this isnt a bandwagon, this is a belife. and where am i going when i die? back into the soil from where i came, just like the rest of us. |
Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 10:37pm
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Hades I'm gonna have to disagree with you America has commercialized christmas, easter, hannukah, and so on. you know the holidays didn't start off with tons of presents, flashy lights, big concerts and clothes and what not... the most horrible commercialization would have to be christmas...people like to just celebrate the holiday without even realizing the importance of the event...some people just call it x-mas and leave out Christ's birthday all together -------------
Nobody ever suspects the fun police!
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 10:48pm
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You fall into the same boat as the Christian widow. The holidays Easter [spring solace] x-mas [winter solace]that now being celebrating by Christians were celebrated by pagans long before Christ was born. Christians happend to adopt the pre- existing holidays as their own and tried to contort it to fit their needs.
Sure lots of money exchange occurs during these holidays because lots of people like to celebrate the holidays in a manner in which they please and just so happens this fasion is not nessisarily the way some Christians think it should be celebrated. -------------
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Posted By: CHiKUN PiMP
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 10:53pm
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I skipped this page and alot of the last one, but here's why I think Christian's celebrate Jesus' death. See, for some reason (probably for nothing more than to teach this lesson) God wanted Jesus to die on the cross for all of mankind's sins. Yes? Yes. So, for Jesus to do this he would make the ultimate sacrifice, his perfect guiltless life, for our devious asses... in short, Jesus took one for the team and did something good for everybody, and spread good will. So, if you are a true Christian, you will spread good will and be selfless, like Jesus. That's what Christianity is about, spreading good will and doing stuff for others, because in the long run, benefiting others will benefit yourself as well and in serving others, you get closer to Jesus in trying to be like him. Get it?
*bubble bubble bubble* yeeeaaaaaaaaah ------------- www.TexasPumpAndPistolGame.com www.pettyPb.com MCB:Chickun |
Posted By: nickman98
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 10:53pm
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hey now dont go brining history and facts into this debate, a religious debate has no room for facts
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 10:54pm
You and Mr. Bible need to arrange a little meeting. ------------- |
Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 10:55pm
Link? I myself am very interested. ------------- |
Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 10:57pm
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When Christian holidays or remembrences were originally created there
wasn't any gifts or special decorations and what not...It was just a
time to give thanks and remember why the event was so
important...Presents and big holiday specials aren't necessary to
celebrate the Lord's Birthday...As the years went on things just kept
getting built onto these religious holidays as most of the country was
some form of a Christian...All these extra were just kept being put
into the holidays...I respect your opinion and disagree with you
completly about Christians adopting pre-exisiting holidays and
contorting them to our own special needs but you can't disagree that
originally just going to church to praise and celebrate the lord turned
to greedy corporations, big holiday marketing schemes, the need to give
your children a ton of presents....People forget what the holidays are
truley about and what they represent...Instead of a child remembering
Easter for the day Christ has reserected from his grave they just think
of the Easter bunney and all the candy that they will be getting that
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Nobody ever suspects the fun police!
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 10:59pm
Trust me, the majority of kids aren't forced to do anything. They may be as children, but look at the kids who stick with church after the age of 18. I was forced to take a bath as a kid, among many other things. Besides the point, you think that religion is always forced, which is a popular belief. Or guilt, which is another favorite. Which is rarely the case. ------------- |
Posted By: PaiNTbALLfReNzY
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 11:00pm
| i got a new sig :-) |
Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 11:00pm
I'm a very content, religious person and I am very proud to be a Christian...You don't see me rubbing my beliefs in anyones face and telling them they are outright wrong and retarded for believing in what they believe in... *Also, it is your business if you do not believe in God...You knew very well that putting that picture there would offend people...That's even why you made this thread...Next time keep your opinions to yourself because you make yourself come off as a complete jackass -------------
Nobody ever suspects the fun police!
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Posted By: Lawless
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 11:02pm
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Blalblablablablabla......................................... . V Sig V Yeah...go ahead and laugh. ------------- Name: Paul R. Warman II Location: The Boonies, MI Phone Number: (989)666-XXXX |
Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 11:05pm
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A little wide, don't cha think?
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 11:08pm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/spring_equinox.htm - Let me know if this site seems bias... It was the first one I pulled up.
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Posted By: Lawless
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 11:11pm
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^Where'd that come from?^ And yeah...i don't plan on keepin' this sig too long...tis a bit on the large side. ------------- Name: Paul R. Warman II Location: The Boonies, MI Phone Number: (989)666-XXXX |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 11:20pm
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Posted By: CHiKUN PiMP
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 11:37pm
------------- www.TexasPumpAndPistolGame.com www.pettyPb.com MCB:Chickun |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 12:22am
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eh...i think the only people that have commercialized hannukah are the people that are adam sandler wanna-bes. NOTE: There is nothing wrong with adam sandler, i love his work, really funny. But i really think he is the only one who has comerciallized the religon by the hannukah songs. Just my two cents... ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 12:25am
Hes right, the goal of christianity is to be "Christlike" ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors"> 
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 12:28am
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...I personally find the sig humerous...
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Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 6:30am
way to pick apart my statement and take it out of context -------------
Nobody ever suspects the fun police!
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Posted By: *(New) Fnd Glry
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 9:39am
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respectfully, what I put in red is the slight issue in there. (if you quote me on this, then please do not take it out of context) Christianity is not "about" speading good will and doing stuff for others. that is, however an inexorable result of the real point of Christianity, which is simply a relationship with Christ. so, the point of Christianity is to have a relationship with Christ, and in order to do so, you have to get closer to Him (the same two friends get "close" --not in the physical sense of the word), and in order to that, you must be more like Him. Well, Christ's life was all about spreading will and doing stuff for others. you were not far off--the only error I immediately saw was in your definition of what Christianity was about. ------------- Pimpin' since May 26th, 1987 |
Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 10:33am
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Sigh. Another religion debate.
Might as well watch and relax. -------------
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Posted By: nickman98
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 1:02pm
| debate nothing i wanted to show off a spiffy new sig, and look what happens.. |
Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 1:09pm
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er, I mean... HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE IS WRONG! Wait, no... STOP THE DRILLING IN ALASK! Crap, what were we debating, again? ------------- 
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Posted By: xteam02001
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 1:14pm
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damn, a religious debate ------------- 
Jesus Christ, why don't you come save my life. Open my eyes and blind me with your light and your lies. |
Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 1:59pm
I could have sworn that this was about snipers. -------------
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 2:26pm
How much is the hell hound again? ------------- |
Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 3:24pm
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I saw a super chromium on e-bay
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Posted By: Hugglebear
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 3:26pm
| sweet a super chromium |
Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 3:29pm
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by the way, just to add my little comment, I obstain from religion, GO NICKMAN!!! ------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site
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Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 3:36pm
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 3:59pm
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so, about that paint howitzer......
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Posted By: St. Jimmy
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 4:50pm
| Jesus was crucified because he took on the corrupt Jewish high Priests. They sent him away to Pontius who didn't want to crucify hi mand sent him away only to be forced into doing it by the Jewish mob. |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 5:09pm
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Who invented the paint knife!?!?!? I need to buy one!?!!
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 6:19pm
My life isnt awful, but I can see why one might get that impression. 
Your correct I do have a pretty strong grasp of religion and its teachings. For the most part I think the overall principles that are taught by religion are ones that mankind should use in one's life. On the other hand, some of the teachings go completely against morals and beliefs to which I hold myself accountable. Even if was born with a perfect knowledge that God existed and did infact do exactly as Christion religion teaches, I would probably still reject God and the teachings that I am supposed to adhere to and suffer the consequences God had in store for sinners. My mind may have a warped version of God's plan and isnt able to comprehend it as other Christians are able to but this life is about making choices and I am willing to live with the consequences of my decisions. Is it really a choice if the outcome is already decided? Ie... Not commit sin and live happily ever after or commit sin and spend eternity in hell... -------------
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 11:19pm
But you never said if you were happy with your life, I really doubt you are. Some of the most popular people lead miserable lives, and knowing as much as you do, and knowing what your rejecting, your life must be hell. I can't imagine the conviction.... And Chikun, there will be alot of people who go to hell because they were trying to be "christlike". Having a personal relationship with Jesus, and allowing him to be your savior, is what will allow you to enter heaven. In all due respect, there are many "good" people who will suffer because they spent to much time trying to get to christ, and never tried to actually seek him. The bible says, (paraphrasing), "No man enters into the gates of heaven but by me". It doesn't say because they attempted to be like him, but through him. Once you realize (and you may already have, who am I to say?) that there is nothing you can do, and that Jesus is the only one that can save you from hell and you accept that, then your saved. Trying to be like Jesus is a task we should all try and keep, but it's all works and works won't get you into heaven. And Hades, just got through looking through that site, it proved some decent points (which I can copy and paste the most interesting parts for me if you wish), but do you have another site thats a little less biased? I understand it's hard to get a credible site to tackle an issue with religious debate, but that site definenently seems to be leaning to one side. ------------- |
Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 11:22pm
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God is real and you all suck. Got it? Good. ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules> |
Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 11:23pm
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We spoke about the representation of the egg last week in my Confirmation class. By the way, i hate religion. Anyways, the egg represents a tomb. Hense opening up the egg to find something inside. ------------- http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/857/sig9ac6cs1mj.jpg - |
Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 11:33pm
I hate to judge differences, but from the catholic experiences I've had, all the catholic relgion is is a somewhat christian country club. If your not in it or do something to get kicked out then your going to hell. And also, good said you come to him with your sins, not through a preacher. Another thing that gets me, is in order to be forgiven for a sin, you have to either give money, or say a few hail mary's or so on. Once again, basing everything on works and what you can do to save yourself will get you nowhere in a personal relationship with Jesus. ------------- |
Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 11:50pm
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Well being a catholic, i can say your not too far off. But some churches are traditional in how you get your sins forgiven. That's the difference between vadican 1 and vadican 2. ------------- http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/857/sig9ac6cs1mj.jpg - |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:25am
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I am generally happy. I think everyone goes through slumps in their life at some point. I dont think that any unhappiness I face is due to my beliefs other than a recent break-up. Also I dont think that religious differences was the entire cause of the break-up in that relationship. I just need to find a gal shares beliefs closer to mine.
Please allow me to give you some background info about myself so that you may have a better perspective of me. My mother is Christian [denomination is irrelevant since I probably have at least one beef with all of them] and my father is not. Same thing with my mother's mother and father. Being raised in this enviroment I was shown both sides of the religious coin. On one hand I have my mother and grandmother that are going to live in heaven for the rest of all time and a father and grandfather that are going to burn in hell since they dont accept Christ/God as their Savior. My father and grandfather were good people. If the only thing keeping them out of the pearly gates is disbelief, and some hardcore sinner accepts God as their savior on their death bed and waltz right inot heaven, that doesnt seem right to me. Also for God to say that the clean and unclean should not mix, well I am at least 2 generation strong disproving that is a bad idea. If anything it has created a stronger tolerance for others... My intentions are not to offend or disprove anyones beliefs, just offer a different perspective. All to often people live there entire lives without questioning their believes or trying to figure out why they do, what they do. Having blind faith in a belief that they only believe to be true because that is what mommy and daddy taught them since birth is not really believing, just being a blind follower in a herd. -------------
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:47am
soooo.... Just because someone rejects Christianity, then they are going to have a miserable life, or just those that reject God? ------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 5:54am
No, because the majority of people who reject probably either really didn't understand it enough to know what they were turning down, or are just so prideful that they didn't want to be seen submitting to someone else. In my opinion, in Hades case, he knows to much not to understand what will happen, and how could that not be a burden on anyone? Hades, But the hardcore sinner you were referring to is considered "clean" (new) after there saved. (which I'm sure you already knew) So in essence a Marilyn Manson could get saved and be just as "holy" as a 8 year old who's done nothing wrong. God doesn't say, you got saved, but remember this before? And trust me, I question my religion all the time. I see the negatives in everything, flaws in movies, and so on....... I was "saved" as a little kid, but I didn't know what I was doing until a little over two years ago. At the time, my dad was drinking and playing music in bars and clubs (musician) and gaining popularity fast. (His band that is) Well, once I got "saved" he started coming to church and he was eventually "saved" and he went to bible school and Is now a pastor. And I still question my faith everyday, I mean, who wouldn't? If I'm going to devote my life to something I'm at least going to make sure it's true. What did it for me is, What is 80 years compared to eternity? But really think about how long eternity is. It's just scary..... ------------- |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 6:58am
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^That is why I hate Christians, they are all bible-throwers. Hades > Bolt3 ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: nickman98
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 11:55am
| crusades anyone? |
Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:21pm
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i dont think its fair to be angry with these heathens just because
they don't believe in God-thats like yelling at a cripled orphan cause hes not running fast enough if you had 1/7 a brain, you'd believe in God say you believe in God, and your wrong-you end up dead, oh well say you believe in God and are right-you spend eternity in Heaven say you don't believe in God and your wrong-YOU SUFFER THE UNQUENCHIBLE FIRES OF HELL EVERY MISERABLE SECOND FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY quit being an idiot, and start being nice to the guy whos done everything for you, trust me, He'll appriate it now the flaming begins, eh? |
Posted By: nickman98
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:27pm
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flameing..apperently according to you i will be the one in flames. that is assuming you are right. i figure i'm safe, i can recant on my death bed accept christ as my saviour and be all set....but that wouldnt be fun. sorry but i am the holder of my own desteny not someone else. there is no one higher then me. relatively speaking, sure i have bosses and such, but thats not the point....and guess what i'd rather be in ehll then in heaven i'll get to hang out with the cool rockers and listen to metal all the time. pain isnt that big a factor. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:39pm
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I dont recall ever asking for anything from God. If your impling God gave me life/body. I do believe I got that from my parents. I understand that your going to claim that God gave my parents the ability to concieve me and so on and so forth... The bottom line is just because God gives me something does not mean that I have to obey, and blindly follow them in return for promises of a wonderful salvation.
I would rather live a life of my own descisions and not forced comformatity for unproven-promises of playing harps and worshiping a God to whom if existed, I find repulsive and not worthy of my eternial praise. -------------
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Posted By: nickman98
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 6:17pm
| shhh hades he might hear you |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 6:36pm
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Dont even need to read on to see where this thread is going. EDIT: judging by the long winded posts of Hades and the guy with the christian thing in his sig, I was right. ------------- 
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Posted By: 98God
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 6:46pm
| Jeez haven't any of you seen Dogma....he doesn't care what you are just as long as you have faith.. |
Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 11:23pm
Because we all know that all christians are like that.  Hades, I noticed you used the word blindly. Let me ask you something, when you sit in a chair, do you expect it to hold you? Probably yes, because you've sat in the chair many times and it has never failed. God's the same way, the more you trust in him the more he comes through. I doubt you've ever really (and I may be wrong, just assuming) allowed God to control everything, thats when you notice him. I bet (assuming once again) that something bad happened and you blamed it all on God for letting it happen. In my opinion it all comes down to one thing, submission. Some people for one reason or another refuse to. Be it, pride, embarrassment, past occurances, or anything. And I feel that those who have such a good feel for religion as yourself, search for more because they want to know more. I actually think that your denial and guilt have built up for so long, that you keep looking to religion for some sort of peace, and you and I both know what your looking for....... ------------- |
Posted By: A-5 08
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 11:26pm
blasphemer |
Posted By: AdmiralSenn
Date Posted: 25 March 2005 at 12:14am
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Whoaaa... this thread went down quickly.
I'm debating the worth of going through and quoting all the inaccuracies in this thread. (By the way, my original point was that the picture of the cross makes no sense in that sig. If it were to be accurate [and even remotely funny] there would be a picture of a priest in jail or something). First, I also disagree with forcing beliefs on people. I wholeheartedly agree with allowing people to make their own choice (hence 'faith). This doesn't mean I want them taught that God is make-believe. Second, from what I've seen, many Christians deliberately introduced holidays with preexisting ones to popularize Christianity. We do know when Jesus was killed in relation to Passover, though. Third, Hades, God doesn't necessarily decide the outcome of things, just what happens in advance. I think that God largely lets things alone. It's extremely hard to explain in a short post, but basically just because God knows that you're going to do something doesn't mean he did it. Those who are wondering what I'm smoking when I think about this stuff (which is nothing), PM me, I know it doesn't make any sense. Fourth, just because Jesus is the only way to heaven doesn't mean you're doomed to hell if you die without him. This idea is even more shaky (if possible), but God has to do something with the remote African tribes who've never heard of Jesus, as well as the ancient Jews who followed God's law perfectly or as closely as possible. I wouldn't count on it, though. PM me on this as well, if anyone is wondering why I appear to be advocating the 'every religion is right' standpoint, because that's not what I'm trying to do. Fifth: Hades, if you were born with the knowledge and so on that you stated and you rejected it, that would be analogous to doing something like this: There is a hot pan sitting in my oven. I can grab it with my hand, but that will cause me tremendous pain. I can put on a glove and pick it up, and nothing will happen. I choose to...... grab the pan barehanded. What beliefs, exactly, do you have a problem with? PM me this directly if you answer; this is very similar to a post I'm planning to make anyway. Sixth, again to Hades: Yes, technically speaking a hardcore sinner might go to heaven on his deathbed. Generally speaking, though, you have to be truly sorrowful for the crap you pull during your life, and I don't think most criminals (particularly murderers and such) are able to truly feel sorrow for what they did. (I'm getting the whole sadness bit from the whole 'REPENT FROM YOUR SINZORZ' bits in the Bible). Seventh, again I agree that forcing religion on people is bad. Eighth, travis75, shut yo' mouth. "I hate all people who use the word travis in screen names, they are all ignorant morons." See how it works? Try not making gross generalizations, mmmkay? Ninth? The Crusades apply to Christianity as much as suicide bombers apply to Iraq. Did they happen? Yes. Was it right? Definitely not. Are all Christians warmongers who want to crush Islam and take over the Holy Land? Pshh. No. Tenth.. Nickman, you don't have a concept of heaven or hell, or you're just being funny, it's hard to tell over the internet (but I bet it's the second one). For those who agree with his statement about hell (i'd rather be in ehll then in heaven i'll get to hang out with the cool rockers and listen to metal all the time. pain isnt that big a factor): I sincerely doubt there is music in hell. Plus, heaven is supposed to be so much fun that it's like having the best sex ever 24/7 while eating the best food ever made while on pure endorphins, only better. The ultimate in 'happy'. Plus, pain is a big factor. For comparison, hell would be being sodomized by a large whale who gets...larger every day while drinking Drano while having red-hot railroad nails stuck into your privates, only worse. Eleven: Hades and Nickman, both of you are right. You don't have to follow God, that's why we have free will. And yes, he can hear/see you. If you absolutely hate the idea of God, that's fine. My purpose in these discussions is to make sure people aren't rejecting God for the wrong reasons. Okay. This was more of a mini-sermon than actual debate, I guess. Each of these points is related to a specific post, but this is more a general answer to ideas than individual people. Except you, Hades. ------------- Is God real? You'll find out when you die.
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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 25 March 2005 at 1:20am
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooohhh I get on my knees and please Jesus. ------------- [IMG]http://i27.tinypic.com/1538fbc.jpg"> Squeeze Box ☣ |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 25 March 2005 at 7:45am
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Without reaing the previous four long ass pages... Hades, can you post all the sigs you have made? I find them humerous(sp?) |