That latest school shooting
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Topic: That latest school shooting
Posted By: reifidom
Subject: That latest school shooting
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:06pm
I hadn't seen this posted yet, but I may be wrong.
The kid had a http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0323051weise1.html - flash animation of a shooter picking off people and police in a park before killing himself.
It's fairly creepy to see and to know he then went through with it. That kid needed some serious help.
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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:12pm
Wait? He shot a Klan member? I Heard somewhere he Idiolized Hitler...
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:13pm
No wonder he got teased... the kid was a fruit basket. Did anyone look at his picture? Hes so ugly and goofy looking.
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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:14pm
Panda Man wrote:
Wait? He shot a Klan member? I Heard somewhere he Idiolized Hitler...
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I'm not sure why that's in the animation. Maybe it was some particular thought of his.
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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:15pm
<sigh>
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:19pm
See, you know hes really screwed up. He was a neo natzi or whatever... but hes like native american, thats like a jewish anti sematist.
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Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:21pm
Woah. That kid need help.
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:23pm
Mhmm, on his MSN page, he said he is a "pee o'd stoner native american industrialist" Industrialist? What in the world is he talking about.
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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:24pm
^He works in a factory?
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:30pm
Maybe hes a.. developer.. But really, "Industrial" is a type of music, but i think its retarted he calls himself and "Industrialist" lol
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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:33pm
I have no clue what he ment by that, I have no idea what his Ideology was like.
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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:36pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrialist - Industrialist.
I think he meant more like this than the music. Maybe he had grand plans. He thought Hitler had some great ideas for improving the world.
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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:39pm
How does a school shooting "help" any? We students just have to
go threw more Random locker searches, let the dogs sniff your pack, and
go threw metal detectors, while being watched by Security, and
Cameras...
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:40pm
Stupid silly little pyscho kid called himself an industrialist. He could have just killed himself, woulda been so much better. Well i suppose i dont mean better, but no need to kill others because you are unhappy.
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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:41pm
Well, obviously he gave up and decided to go out this way rather than continue fighting his frustration and alienation. He needed to be institutionalized again before it got this far.
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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:41pm
DBib: well if your going down, you might as well take some with ya.
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:44pm
Haha, even after his death, he doesnt get any respect. I am not saying he deserves any but to be picked on you entire life can cause people to commit such trageties.
Maybe if kids were to show more respect to one another they wouldnt shoot each other up on both the street and in schools.
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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:45pm
I'd imagine that to him they weren't people at all. I think he was shooting at objects of frustration, breaking objects and not killing people. It was probably very cathartic for him.
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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:47pm
Hades wrote:
Maybe if kids were to show more respect |
This is why sometimes I wish they would bring back Corporal punishment .
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:57pm
I dont think corporal punishment teaches respect.
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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 12:59pm
With the Right method I belive it can.
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 1:05pm
Sure it can. But the trick is consistancy. And nowadays, people scream abuse when they see a mom smack their son at the supermarket. Would never fly for a teacher to hit their students. I wish people would get over it. Its ok to hit your kids if they are being disobedient.
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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 1:06pm
DBibeau855 wrote:
Sure it can. But the trick is consistancy. And
nowadays, people scream abuse when they see a mom smack their son at
the supermarket. Would never fly for a teacher to hit their students. I
wish people would get over it. Its ok to hit your kids if they are
being disobedient. |
i agree, but there is a fine line between dicipline, and abuse...
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 1:10pm
All your teaching is that pain will be inflicted if you break the rules/ show disrespect. Then the child questions why it is okay for Mom and Dad to hit then, but they cant cant hit someone for mouthing off to them.
Respect is treating others nicely because you want to not because a fist is going to be bashed into your nose if you dont.
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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 1:33pm
You can't make somebody grow a conscience.
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 2:07pm
Maybe he should have stoped being an angsty antisocial douche and talked to people more? Yeah his dad died and his mother got brain damage after drinking and driving but still, **edited** happens and you move the hell on with life. It is hard to deal with yes, but you have to get over it eventually. I believe that if he would have interacted instead of allowing himself to be an outcast his ENTIRE life, this could have been prevented. He also posted on nazi forums, which was most likely due to being a mixed race outcast.
Hades: Why should we respect him? He proved to us that he doesnt deserve our respect because he couldnt overcome people making fun of him. Guess what? I get made fun of from time to time, and i brush it off because i will never see these assholes again (or its done by friends, in which case we go back and forth with insults for a while). Everyone gets made fun of now and then, you have to deal with it and take it with a pinch of salt (or whatever that expression it).
Overall, yes it was a tragedy, and yes the kid should have been institutionalized.
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 2:10pm
He should have been given respect because until this past week he hadnt done anything to deserve getting treated with disrespect.
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 4:02pm
Ok, in my opinion, yes he did. He was antisocial his whole life, while if he had just taken the time to make friends, none of this probably would have happened. Being antisocial isnt a disease or anything, its just that you are scared of people. In order to grow up, you have to overcome this fear. He didnt, for one reason or another, and that cast him out, causing him to be made fun of and people to lose respect for him.
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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 4:07pm
MetallicaESPa5 wrote:
Woah. That kid need help. |
Not anymore.
He kinda stuffed his face in the bucket.
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Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 4:38pm
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What a loser. No wonder he did that.
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 4:53pm
Online flash videos. The new sign of violence.
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Posted By: GunSamurai
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 6:13pm
NiQ-Toto wrote:
Ok, in my opinion, yes he did. He was antisocial his
whole life, while if he had just taken the time to make friends, none
of this probably would have happened. Being antisocial isnt a disease
or anything, its just that you are scared of people. In order to grow
up, you have to overcome this fear. He didnt, for one reason or
another, and that cast him out, causing him to be made fun of and
people to lose respect for him. |
I agree with toto on this one right here, I know people like that.
Wish I had been in that kids path I would have killed him myself, loser
destroys other peoples lives with no good reason, I hope he enjoys his
stay in hell.
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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 6:22pm
maybe he was abused by a klansman before or harrassed i duno?
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 6:34pm
Toto: Why are they making fun of him in the first place.
Being shy/anti-social doesnt give everyone a free ticket to pick on you.
How many classmates of his do you think could have related to what he had gone through. Losing both your parents at a young age.
I am not making excuses of what he did this past week, but I still dont see any reason why he should have been picked on. Maybe if his schoolmates had reached out to him instead of picking on him there would have been one less school shooting.
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 6:36pm
DBibeau855 wrote:
Stupid silly little pyscho kid |
Your problably the one who teased him into doing it you douche.
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Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 6:40pm
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NiQ-Toto wrote:
Ok, in my opinion, yes he did. He was antisocial his whole life, while if he had just taken the time to make friends, none of this probably would have happened. Being antisocial isnt a disease or anything, its just that you are scared of people. In order to grow up, you have to overcome this fear. He didnt, for one reason or another, and that cast him out, causing him to be made fun of and people to lose respect for him. |
He had no friends. Wether it was his fault or not doesn't matter. A stranger should not make fun of somebody for not having friends. That will only make the person even more scared of meeting new people.
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Posted By: shiftykyle101
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 6:43pm
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^ yea man. you gotta respect everyone and help others instead of seeing a challenge and stepping back and taking the easyer way: disrespect.
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 6:59pm
Hades wrote:
Toto: Why are they making fun of him in the first place. | Because hes fat and people are stupid? They dont realize that it hurts to be made fun of, and they continued to do it. No one stuck up for him for fear of being ostracized by their own friends.
Hades wrote:
Being shy/anti-social doesnt give everyone a free ticket to pick on you. | No it does not, but people do it anyway. They see an easy target and go for it. It is sad, but it is true.
Hades wrote:
How many classmates of his do you think could have related to what he had gone through. Losing both your parents at a young age. | Im thinking none, but they probably dont care. Maybe they think the same as me, that there is a time for mourning, and then a time to pony up and get over it.
Hades wrote:
I am not making excuses of what he did this past week, but I still dont see any reason why he should have been picked on. Maybe if his schoolmates had reached out to him instead of picking on him there would have been one less school shooting. | The only excuse i can offer you is that people are stupid, and they see physical flaws and different social behavior as an excuse to make fun of someone.
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 7:04pm
shiftykyle101 wrote:
^ yea man. you gotta respect everyone and help others instead of seeing a challenge and stepping back and taking the easyer way: disrespect. | I agree that you should respect people. I only ever make fun of my friends in jest, and never strangers, especially not to their face. Well, i cant say that, because i make fun of people online when they are stupid, but in person, never.
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Posted By: untouchable555
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 9:14pm
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GunSamurai wrote:
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I agree with toto on this one right here, I know people like that.
Wish I had been in that kids path I would have killed him myself, loser destroys other peoples lives with no good reason, I hope he enjoys his stay in hell.
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Amen
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 9:56pm
oreomann33 wrote:
DBibeau855 wrote:
Stupid silly little pyscho kid |
Your problably the one who teased him into doing it you douche.
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Of course it was ME! God, this kid was TRYING to be antisocial, look at his MSN page thingy. His interests are killing? His ocupation is doormat? Hes trying to be an outcast so he can fit in with his social group. He looked up to these kinds of actions. Went to hate sites, watched movies where the jocks and people got their comupuns via a school shooting. Screw him, he isnt worth the bullet he shot himself with. If some kid is going to take a gun into a school and shoot an unarmed guard and six students because he is teased, he will get no sympathy from me, kids tease, in school there is a natural pecking order, the big guys punch out the little guys. This kid was a coward, pure and simple.
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 9:58pm
Panda Man wrote:
DBibeau855 wrote:
Sure it can. But the trick is consistancy. And
nowadays, people scream abuse when they see a mom smack their son at
the supermarket. Would never fly for a teacher to hit their students. I
wish people would get over it. Its ok to hit your kids if they are
being disobedient. |
i agree, but there is a fine line between dicipline, and abuse...
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Of course, but im sick of people saying corpral punishment for disobedient children is tabo. Good lord, when i messed up, i got the studed belt.
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 25 March 2005 at 10:02am
DBibeau855 wrote:
Panda Man wrote:
DBibeau855 wrote:
Sure it can. But the trick is consistancy. And
nowadays, people scream abuse when they see a mom smack their
son at
the supermarket. Would never fly for a teacher to hit their students. I
wish people would get over it. Its ok to hit your kids if they are
being disobedient. |
i agree, but there is a fine line between dicipline, and abuse...
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Of course, but im sick of people saying corpral punishment for
disobedient children is tabo. Good lord, when i messed up, i got the
studed belt. |
Well now we know what the hell is wrong with you.
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 25 March 2005 at 11:24am
You never got punished when you were little? You pour paint all over the couch by accident or something like that, you get punished, usualy it was no tv for week or i had to do dishes for a month, but on ocasion, my mom got out this belt, and slaped my legs with it. Quick learner.
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Posted By: The Mars Volta
Date Posted: 25 March 2005 at 11:28am
Man. That flash scared the crap out of me. It just shows what people like that think and stuff...
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 25 March 2005 at 11:33am
Yeah, its really creepy. I think i would give anything to like, crawl around in his head for a day. Listen to his thoghts for a day, see what makes him tick. People like him fascinate me. Not because i admire them. Imagine what went on in his screwed up head. Always hating... Its like a phsycologists wet dream.
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