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Topic: silencers?!!
Posted By: antman
Subject: silencers?!!
Date Posted: 28 March 2005 at 7:24pm

OK I wont 2 know how 2 make or bye a silencer for my gun. If u know anything plz tell. I'll try 2 figer it out.

PLZ HELP




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Posted By: antman
Date Posted: 28 March 2005 at 7:25pm
O plz make coments!!


Posted By: VTpaintballer
Date Posted: 28 March 2005 at 7:27pm
well wwhats your gun a 98c? I think Ben tippmann has some silencers but first what marker you have?


Posted By: antman
Date Posted: 28 March 2005 at 7:28pm

i have a 98C

 



Posted By: antman
Date Posted: 28 March 2005 at 7:58pm
plz make comants


Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 28 March 2005 at 8:00pm
silynzerz r bad four yoo.


Posted By: RavensReturn
Date Posted: 28 March 2005 at 8:04pm

no no no! bad boy! if you do that you might end up in cuffs...cops dont like those things

 

unless your talking about one JUST for looks...not one that actuly makes the marker silent...

just for looks ones are fine...as long as they dont work



Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 28 March 2005 at 8:04pm
thiers an edit button for a reason please use it. silencers have no purpose in paintball.but if you like the way they look i think bt makes 1


Posted By: VTpaintballer
Date Posted: 28 March 2005 at 8:05pm
hmm i think http://www.888paintball.com - www.888paintball.com got some silencers and http://www.bentippmann.com/ - http://www.bentippmann.com/  i think they have some but i'll check


Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 28 March 2005 at 8:07pm
They are considered illegal in certain states, and I wouldn't bother with one anyways, they are sort of heavy, and they really don't help with the noise, and from what I have experienced, they slow down the ball a lot too.  I just wouldn't worry about noise reduction, because by the time you're shooting at someone, they'll probably see you anyways, even if your gun is really quiet.




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Posted By: A-5 08
Date Posted: 28 March 2005 at 8:10pm
search buttons are helpful


Posted By: VTpaintballer
Date Posted: 28 March 2005 at 8:10pm

Ya antman they are right, you don't need a silencer. Just get a good barrel like J & J or the lapco bigshot



Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 28 March 2005 at 10:05pm
Use the search button.  There was a very mature, well thought-out, thread on this a while back.  It included an excerpt from the ATF rules governing silencers and links to barrels with built in silencers that are legal.

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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 12:44am
silencers are illegal too

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Posted By: RedBullGotWings
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 12:50am

there is really no such thing as a silencer for a paintball gun...

but you guys can pretend...

i mean concidering most of the noise form the 09c is cuz its soo huge and the sear is liek effing ping ping



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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 2:41am
When will people learn that certain things (like a real silencer) can not be used on a paintball gun as well as on a regulated paintball field....if you wish to make a silencer....go ahead, jus dont come back here tellin us that you got arrested and we didnt warn you.

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Posted By: LordJovian
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 8:17am

http://www.endgameinc.com/ - http://www.endgameinc.com/

They're only illegal if they work on an actual firearm (your state government may or may not classify a paintball gun as a firearm). But, the link above contains a barrel that works like a silencer. Since it can't screw onto a rifle or assault rifle, it's legal. You may also want to get the comp-air system (LPW) to make your gun quieter.

*edit*

I would suggest getting the 14". The 10" doesn't have enough unported barrel for accuracy reasons.



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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 9:53am
most states consider anything that projects a so-called "bullet" is a firearm so check ur laws before u buy it

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Posted By: NightPntBaller
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 10:10am
Silencers are usless in speedball but im sure you might find a good use for them in the woods. (a big woods course) I personally dont like them and would never use them.


Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 10:36am
Silencers are illegal. In order to use them you need to file some paperwork and pay a $200 tax to the BATF. Thats after they deem the silencer cannot be used on a true firearm.

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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 12:32pm

Originally posted by bluemunky42 bluemunky42 wrote:

most states consider anything that projects a so-called "bullet" is a firearm so check ur laws before u buy it

Incorrect.  Only one or two states ever did so.  In 1988 paintball was legal in 48 states.  It was not legal in Massachusetts or New Jersy.  I don't remember what the justification for this in Massachusetts was but the reason in NJ was based on the states legal definition of a firearm.  NJ law stated a firearm was any weapon designed to expel a projectile using gas from a cartridge.  The NJ lawmakers considered 12 gram CO2s cartridges.  It took paintball advocates two sessions of the legislature to get this overturned.  If I can find a link to the case I will add it below later. 

Edited Note:  Okay, finding this was easier than I thought.  Here you go.

http://www.topgunpaintball.com/History_of_Paintball.html - http://www.topgunpaintball.com/History_of_Paintball.html



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Posted By: RavensReturn
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 12:36pm

Ô.o...ummm...you really do your research huh...?



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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 12:40pm
I like knowing stuff and I enjoy searching for that knowledge.  As someone once said, knowledge is power.  Also, I really don't like being wrong, so if I'm not sure about something I usually keep my pie-hole shut.

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Posted By: LordJovian
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 1:24pm

Jesus, it's just a ported barrel with a large chamber. Using the ATF definition of a silencer and a firearm, ANY device used to quieten the report of a firearm is illegal without getting it approved. SO, that means ALL of you, yes, all, have illegal devices on your paintball guns. If any of you are still scratching your heads, I'll clarify for you. PORTING quietens the report of oyur paintball gun. The stock barrel for the A-5 and 98's have holes in them- therefore, buy just buying a Tippman you have bought an "illegal" item. And most of you don't have Stiffies, so pretty close to all of you have "silencers."

I brought up this point last time when forumers had the ATF rules posted, and I easily debunked it because almost every barrel breaks those guidelines.



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R-5
CP Reg
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 2:26pm
Originally posted by LordJovian LordJovian wrote:

Jesus, it's just a ported barrel with a large chamber. Using the ATF definition of a silencer and a firearm, ANY device used to quieten the report of a firearm is illegal without getting it approved. SO, that means ALL of you, yes, all, have illegal devices on your paintball guns. If any of you are still scratching your heads, I'll clarify for you. PORTING quietens the report of oyur paintball gun. The stock barrel for the A-5 and 98's have holes in them- therefore, buy just buying a Tippman you have bought an "illegal" item. And most of you don't have Stiffies, so pretty close to all of you have "silencers."


I brought up this point last time when forumers had the ATF rules posted, and I easily debunked it because almost every barrel breaks those guidelines.

The ATF states that paintball silencers are illegal if they are deemed that they can be converted to use on a firearm. Porting cannot be taken off one gun and made to use on a firearm. Its a hole in the barrel. Its legal.



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    Porting on a barrel is not considered a “Silencer” since it is integral with the structure of
the barrel and the “Porting” obviously can’t be modified for a Firearm and is not portable, Yes, I
know there are quite ported barrels out there, but porting in the barrels cannot be transported to
or adapted from the paint barrel to a true firearm. It sounds like silly splitting of hairs and very
obvious to you and I, but, the Distinction is VERY important to Governmental types, and is the
difference between a $50,000 fine and/or 5yrs in a Federal prison."

www.paintballzone.com


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Optional setup:
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Posted By: antman
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 5:18pm
wow wow wow 2 much info. i just wanted to see if i could make 1  & see if it worked 4 fun OK  NOT 2 shot anyone.... just wanted a hoby   


Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 7:37pm

Ok, so you want to make one as a hobby....but why?

Its not like youre actually going to use it or are you??? 



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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 9:38pm
Just having one would still be illegal. Or at least I would think it is. Smoking pot's illegal, possesing it is too.

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JCS Dual Trigger
DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber
Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted

Optional setup:
R/T
Dead on Blade trigger


Posted By: kiolia
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 12:07am
Ok--------------
If you want to make a silencer, it's easy bro.

You need a barrel with porting already on it to do a good job of it, so make sure you have that. Take fabric of some kind like polar fleece or part of an old towel (or paper towel in a pinch) and wrap it around the porting (don't miss any.) You can tape the starting end of the fabric to the barrel if you need to, but try not to cover too much porting. Tape the outside of the fabric to hold it together and wrap it large enough to slip the outside tube on securely.
For the outside tube, a cardboard shipping tube is the right size and not too heavy; you can use PVC or something but it's heavy. Whatever, it's not that important. Slip it over the outside and you are good to go. This only works with barrels with 4-8 or more inches of porting...

If your barrel doesn't have porting, option 2 is to make an inner tube of a small pvc pipe with tons of holes drilled in it that slips over the end of the barrel, and projects out past the end of the barrel by 6-8" (or more, whatever), then you tape that down to the end of the barrel, and wrap it up with fabric like before.

Simple, enjoy.

PS. Silencers aren't completely effective, and they're heavy like crazy. I'm not elaborating on these instructions either, it's simple yo.

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Posted By: LordJovian
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 8:23am
My point exactly YWSM. Someone stated the barrel with the built-in silencer would still be illegal. I stated that it wasn't.

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E-grip
Chipley Custom Carbon Graphite 16"
Evil Adapter(Spyder)
32 Deg New '03 XChamber
Remote Line
Gun Sling
Sniper f/x Stock
LPK
68/4500 HPA
R-5
CP Reg
JCS Duel Trigger


Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 11:43am
Porting isnt that kind of a silencer though. Its just holes. Lets just agree to disagree on this one.

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E-Grip
JCS Dual Trigger
DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber
Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted

Optional setup:
R/T
Dead on Blade trigger


Posted By: mobius_1
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 11:46am
Porting is there to help stabilize ball flight by reducing the turbulance around the ball as it exits the barrel, a side affect is that it is quiter.

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Posted By: CYoungGunA-5
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 4:09pm
I BELIEVE THAT THE MORE THE OTHER GUYS HERE YOUR GUN, THE MORE THEY DREAD IT.


Posted By: Xspyderman
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 4:09pm
Waste of time... fear the pounding A5... its coming for you!

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Posted By: antman
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 5:10pm

lol

 




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