Underground tunnels?
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Topic: Underground tunnels?
Posted By: HITMAN 4 HIRE
Subject: Underground tunnels?
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 5:44pm
hey were wanting to put in some underground tunnels from one foxhole to the other. has anybody ever put on in? need some tips.
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Posted By: garrett5
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 7:11pm
thats really stupid.if someone was crawling in it and it caved in theyed be dead.....
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Posted By: Millslane
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 7:58pm
underground supports to hold the ground up, lots of 4x4's and scaffold
grade planking of some kind for celing braces. other than i i don't
know what to suggest., walls and celings should be somewhat supported,
not continious, but every so many feet, maybe 4 or 5. maybe even
smaller spacing. its a different ballgame with a tunnel than a tower,
you can surrive a fall much easier than a collapise underground. all
agree?
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Posted By: Millslane
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 8:01pm
planks can be 2x12's. that could be expensive depending on how far the
tunnel will go. anything less thana 2x12 i wouild not reccomend. no
spilts, or cracks in the material, the less knotty the better, not
knots on the sides or material. plank and support as you go of course.
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 8:07pm
Thats a pretty good idea if you really want to add some realism to the game or scenario, but its also very dangerous for anyone wit no prior experience in crawling in tight places like a tunnel...and also maintaining a tunnel on a paintball field is also hard, you dont want some woodland creature that happened to find it and make it as its new home and also, with the tunnel, the player would have to take off their gear and go in wit jus a paint pistol or making a larger tunnel jus big enough for a person to stand in could cause a serious injury or death...man made tunnels are known to cave in if not shored up properly.
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Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 8:15pm
if the tunnels roof is only covered by like a foot of dirt you might get away with 2 by 6
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Posted By: A5 dude15
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 8:30pm
that would be really cool, but its just paintball...it would be really hard...but cool.
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 9:08pm
try digging ditches, deep enough to crawl through, and then cover it with plywood, pallets, or even carpet, whatever you got
we put in one like that, about a dozen feet long, but no roof because its on a slope, so its got a natural berm protection, works pretty good, and makes a good shooting position
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Posted By: HITMAN 4 HIRE
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 9:12pm
Klaus wrote:
try digging ditches, deep enough to crawl through, and then cover it with plywood, pallets, or even carpet, whatever you got
we put in one like that, about a dozen feet long, but no roof because its on a slope, so its got a natural berm protection, works pretty good, and makes a good shooting position
| for once you've had a pretty good idea.
i think will do that, but add 2 by 4's
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Posted By: A5 dude15
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 9:38pm
^ yeah thats a better idea then diggin actual tunnels, just make your own roof.
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 9:49pm
HITMAN 4 HIRE wrote:
Klaus wrote:
try digging ditches, deep enough to crawl through, and then cover it with plywood, pallets, or even carpet, whatever you got
we put in one like that, about a dozen feet long, but no roof because its on a slope, so its got a natural berm protection, works pretty good, and makes a good shooting position
| for once you've had a pretty good idea.
i think will do that, but add 2 by 4's
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thanks
to save time and effort, use the dirt from the ditch to make berms on the side, it will cut your digging in half
maybe cut a shooting position or two if its a long trench
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Posted By: HITMAN 4 HIRE
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 9:58pm
will do
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Posted By: Millslane
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 9:59pm
good alternative klaus, i like that alot
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 10:05pm
Oooooh trench warfare.....I like it
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 10:16pm
i always liked building...im better at building than paintball, so i have to compensate by building all kinds of pathways, shooting positions, and secret hatches...i picked off three out of 5 guys without firing a shot...inside a barn...but then the last idiot yelled, so i pointblanked him and the last two guys spraypainted me
now is a great time to dig, soils nice and moist, but dig wide, because it will sink back some
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Posted By: LAG 1138
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 8:15am
My friends and I here in NC dug lots of trenches. It's ALOT of fun. When you pile dirt on the sides be sure to put boards on the edges to makes sure that it doesn't fall back into the trench...that gets very annoying. Also...rain is a bit of a problem. You can't use them for about a week after it rains. We also made bunkers using digging, boards, and sandbags. Much fun indeed.
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 9:06am
There is one problem about using a trench....when it rains, the trench needs to be drained out, but how in doing it is going to be a pain....this was the same problem that both sides (Allies and the Germans) were facing during WW1.
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Posted By: Millslane
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 3:23pm
when it rains, and the water fills into the bottom of the trench,
making it really muddy, run boards, 2x6 down the length, that will
enable you to walk down there without getting completly muddy. of
course affuming the sides are supported, we don't want them falling in,
cut plywood for trenches that are no very long for the sides, or floor,
then you can play no matter what the weather just did. (drill holes in
the floor for drainage if needed)
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 4:46pm
me and my friend(also in nc) dug a lot of bunkers, and we discovered if
you make the angled slightly towards teh middle and make sort of a
trough down the center most of teh rain runs into it and you can just
put your feeet on either side
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Posted By: HITMAN 4 HIRE
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 6:38pm
me and friend are practically paintball field building dudes, we just didn't know how we were going to approach the tunnel idea.
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Posted By: nofxrules98
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 8:51am
IT is a horrible idea we did it in our arena in my back yard 35ft
long. It took VERY VERY long and once 2 people were in it at the
same time and LIT EACHOTHER UP... one kid got 3 shots in the
neck because... well just think of the way u crawl face
first. Also this might not be a big problem for you but one day
we found bats eating a racoon in there.
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Posted By: Millslane
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 4:14pm
yeah, animals could fall in and not be able to get back out. if its in
there for a while, it will die. and even if its alive or dead, it could
attrach, larger animal to the area looking for a meal. not to mention
disease spreading. also, a live racoon in your tunnel might react badly
if you drop in there and it sees you. might attack. good thing you have
you gun.
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Posted By: Pulp_Fiction
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 5:29pm
How about you get a section of that really large diameter pipe they use in
the hyperpipe courses at skirmish and dig a big trench than cover it up
insta-tunnel.
you could also cut a hole in the bottom of the pipe and dig a deeper
section in the trench right where that hole in the pipe will go and that will
be your rain drain.
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Posted By: booga
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 12:41am
Hollywood Sports Park in Bellflower California has large sewer pipe
covered partly in dirt and rock to create a tunnel screnario.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 4:13pm
Ooh, trenches- I know them well.
Klaus pegged it. Dig trenches 6 feet deep or so. Put plywood panels
along the sides, braced by 2x4s. Put 2x4s every yard as roof supports,
and then put plywood on top of thet, too. Bury the tunnel with the
excavated earth.
Leave an open trench porttion every little while as a fire trench, and
for entry/emergency exit. You can leave these bits about 4.5-5 feet
deep so you can see over the edge to shoot.
ALWAS reinforce the sides- a caved in trench is a royal pain in the ass. Been there, done that.
This will be VERY brute labour intensive. You'll want a backhoe-
seriously. Digging a two man fire trench in six feet of sand is bad
enough. Digging a network in mixed earth is going to be a very serious
undertaking.
Best of luck to you. Dare we ask for pics when you're done?
Oh- and leave a few 2x8 or 2x12 ramps for animals to get out. Hope you
don't get grasshoppers there- I was on an exercise once, and I ended up
with about 40 of them jumping around my ankles in the middle of a
friggin' firefight. Pain in the ass. They can't get out of a trench
very easily, for obvious reasons. Critters are a bit smarter.
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 07 April 2005 at 7:24pm
perhaps a cheaper/easier idea is to built up sides and dig in a little
18 inches is deep enough to crawl in without the top of your head getting clipped...
good luck
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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 09 April 2005 at 9:07am
suposing u go thru with the tunnel idea, make sure u mark the top of it so no1 steps on it and falls thru it on top of the person crawling thru
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Posted By: G-Que
Date Posted: 20 May 2005 at 10:33pm
i live in rhode island and new the beaches by the atlantic me and some of my friends found an underground tunnel which we later found out it was a world war 2 bunker. i wondered why there would be a world war 2 bunker in my state but then i also found out they put them everywhere around the country because of what happend in pearl harbor. well there was a gate with locks and keep out signs so of coarse we broke in, brought a bunch of tiki torches for light and played paintball. much fun although it was pretty creepy in there.
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Posted By: stalker77
Date Posted: 20 May 2005 at 10:46pm
well as for the drange problems if you're gonna take the time to dig large trenches like brihard suggested, u might as well put in a daylight dranage system ever couple hundred yard, with the pipes sticking out somewhere preferably downhill, this should leave ur trenches bone dry.
also if u do find u have an animal problem, pop a couple of those animal traps that keeps the animal in the cage once he gets in...... these are just suggestions
most of the guys i play with are opting towards multi level towers, but we did a 4 foot deep hole surrounded by picket fences with an adjustable roof using a set of ropes, pullies and hooks.... it workes relativly well and there is room for maybe 3 ppl....
good luck and id like to see some pics if u accomplish this
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Posted By: sentinal343
Date Posted: 22 May 2005 at 7:06pm
garrett5 wrote:
thats really stupid.if someone was crawling in it and it caved in theyed be dead..... |
Thats dang near the stupidest thing ive heard on this forum! Have you ever heard of the vietnam war?
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Posted By: Barnballer91
Date Posted: 25 May 2005 at 2:35pm
we've thought about doing this at our field my idea was to just dig a ditch about 2 or 3 ft down and make it a semi circle for a bunker type place,cover the tops with plywood mark it off so you can't step on it (alot of fat people play at my course) and make little firing windows,
as for the drainage use that plastic tubing stuff they use to put on the end of gutters,make about 4 spots for water to come out of (at our field this will be easy because there is a creek bed about 10 feet down we could lead water out of)
Make sure the entrance is wide enough for someone to get in or out quickly, but cover it when not in play to keep animals out ,and also cover the window with plywood slats for the same purpose.
if you want to do actual tunnels get those huge 5foot tall sewage pipes and bury those in about 1 foot of dirt and cover them so animals cant get in
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Posted By: Nickodemus
Date Posted: 25 May 2005 at 4:49pm
If I was going to build a trench I would first look for a natural topographic feature that may help...
Perhaps burying some 36" Reinforced concrete pipe would do it.
If not, I would dig a ditch with a 1:2 slope and a 3 foot toe and then cover the top with a not-potentionally fatal material to make your cave. Maybe some camo duck blind material?
You military guys should know how to solve the water problem. You need to dig a sump - they are good at catching grenades also.
In the long run it would probably be more easy and usful to build a bunch of thoughtfully located two man fighting holes. Look for the marine corps combat leaders field guide and you can get some nice instructions/schematics. I don't think you have much need for overhead cover in paintball.
Dont forget to save the dirt you excavate to build some nice earthworks defenses.
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Posted By: x-mo-x
Date Posted: 26 May 2005 at 8:26pm
Nice one H4H Make it safe and it will work !!!
im pulling for you on that one!!
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Posted By: x-mo-x
Date Posted: 26 May 2005 at 8:26pm
sentinal343 wrote:
garrett5 wrote:
thats really stupid.if someone was crawling in it and it caved in theyed be dead..... |
Thats dang near the stupidest thing ive heard on this forum! Have you ever heard of the vietnam war?
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Posted By: HITMAN 4 HIRE
Date Posted: 26 May 2005 at 8:40pm
Posted By: Aussie_bloke
Date Posted: 26 May 2005 at 9:26pm
i went down some of those tunnels in vietnam in 1999, we had to sign a thing saying that if the tunnels collapsed and we died we couldnt hole anyone responsible, they are 30 metres underground, with very little support structures, mainly because of the heavy clay like soil,
they were scary as hell being down there, especially when my mates from up top were calling down in american accents calling for help as a laugh, quite funny thinking back to it,
anyways has anyone suggested digging a trench like system, putting in concrete irrigation pipes and just filling the dirt back over the top, seen it done at a few fields and army obsticle courses that ive been on
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Posted By: Sentinelz
Date Posted: 28 May 2005 at 3:24am
I just thought about this australian's have accents right so when they impersonate us what does it sound like to us? what does it sound like to them when we impersonate them?
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Posted By: HITMAN 4 HIRE
Date Posted: 28 May 2005 at 12:12pm
Thats not funny... Aussie convict.
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Posted By: Aussie_bloke
Date Posted: 29 May 2005 at 11:27pm
Sentinelz wrote:
I just thought about this australian's have accents right so when they impersonate us what does it sound like to us? what does it sound like to them when we impersonate them? |
mate when i hear americans trying to pull off an australian accent or even when they say g'day i cant help but cringe!!!!!
some americans get it completly wrong and sound british more than australian,
and i wouldnt even try doing an american accent cos i know id sound like a tool.
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Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 29 May 2005 at 11:47pm
That would bring a whole new meaning to bunkering.
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Posted By: Psyrecx
Date Posted: 30 May 2005 at 12:04am
sentinal343 wrote:
garrett5 wrote:
thats really stupid.if someone was crawling in it and it caved in theyed be dead..... |
Thats dang near the stupidest thing ive heard on this forum! Have you ever heard of the vietnam war?
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Posted By: ic3man
Date Posted: 30 May 2005 at 10:35pm
HITMAN 4 HIRE wrote:
hey were wanting to put in some underground tunnels from one foxhole to the other. has anybody ever put on in? need some tips.
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take yor time and be safe
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Posted By: marktippman98
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 11:45am
man i'd be to scared to go through them wif my luck i crawl through on to the other bunker just to be waiting for on top somebody wif a angel speed just getting ready to unload
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Posted By: warwingsaw3
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 1:15pm
Trenches are one thing but tunnels? (curls up into a little ball and rolls around the floor) Sorry man, but it sounds too much like Vietnam. Vietnam sucked aka America=Losers. If you were doing a Vietnamese scenario on the other hand... It would be kind of neat. Just make sure the tunnels don't collapse on unsuspecting players, that would suck:(It's dark in here... I can't get out! AHHH!)
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Posted By: billho72
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 8:04pm
Try plastic pipe the stuff they use in roadway ditches comes in sizes from 15 inches to 48 inches.
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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 25 June 2005 at 9:18pm
id just dig trenches like 4 feet deep so your neck and head can go over the top if needed for trench warfare, have plywood sheets like 4 feet long by however wide the trench is. Put the sheets on top of the trench so you get your tunnel, should keep critters and probably rain out. Im gonna go do that in a few days to my place
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Posted By: HITMAN 4 HIRE
Date Posted: 26 June 2005 at 9:44pm
this has gone on for a while... wow.
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Posted By: CrazyPainter
Date Posted: 27 June 2005 at 6:59pm
deep trenchs with a wooded covers is better idea>
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Posted By: HITMAN 4 HIRE
Date Posted: 27 June 2005 at 8:49pm
CrazyPainter wrote:
deep trenchs with a wooded covers is better idea>
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Posted By: JamesDOTW
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 1:27am
Hahaha can you imagine trying to sneak into a fox hole and running goggles-first into a 600 lb. bear....ahahahahaha those crazy bears. Anyway back to the topic if it was like a foxhole covered in plywood yeah that'd work pretty well unless too many people stood on it and it collapsed on the poor kid crawling in there. And corrogated plumbing something like that would be way to hott in a small space between the breathing and lack of ventalation and what not....Stick to running kids.
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