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Topic: Sony Stop Selling Playstations?
Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Subject: Sony Stop Selling Playstations?
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 10:11pm
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-sony29mar29,1,3822927.story?coll=la-headlines-business&ctrack=1&cset=true - Click

"Ruling Could Halt Sony's PlayStation
  • A judge's order to stop selling the units is on hold while the company appeals a patent verdict.




  • A federal court ruling that could force Sony Corp. to pull the plug on its popular PlayStation video game consoles marks the latest in a series of underdog victories in legal disputes over intellectual property.

    U.S. District Judge Claudia Wilken on Thursday ordered the Japanese electronics giant not to manufacture, use, sell or import into the United States PlayStations that incorporate so-called force feedback technology developed by San Jose-based Immersion Corp.

    Immersion won an $82-million judgment against Sony in September over use of Immersion's patented technology that makes game controllers shake and vibrate to enhance realism.

    Although Wilken stayed her order while Sony appeals, the threat of stopping the flow of one of Sony's most lucrative products — PlayStation accounted for 32% of Sony's operating income last quarter — highlights the legal risks in an era of rapid technological change.

    "Where innovation goes on at a torrential pace … it puts a real premium on intellectual property" such as patented technology, said attorney Bruce D. Sunstein of Bromberg & Sunstein in Boston. "If you don't have any, you're likely to die. You're definitely forced big-time to innovate."

    A spokeswoman for Sony declined to comment on the case.

    The defeat was one of several handed to big technology companies in recent weeks.

    A jury in Santa Clara County last week ordered consumer-electronics giant Toshiba Corp. to pay Lexar Media Inc. of Fremont, Calif., $465.4 million for stealing and revealing Lexar's trade secrets. And on March 16, a federal appeals court in Virginia set the stage for tiny MercExchange of Great Falls, Va., to win an injunction preventing online auction powerhouse EBay Inc. from infringing MercExchange's patented online-buying technology.

    Jason Schultz, a staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, said the companies most likely to wage patent battles were large manufacturers and small companies that specialize in selling the rights to use patented technology. An entire industry of patent-holding companies that acquire patents and enforce them is emerging, he said, and wins like the ones recorded by Immersion and MercExchange will only encourage that approach.

    The problem, Schultz said, is that companies with such a narrow focus "can poison the ecosystem for innovation in technology."

    Immersion Chief Executive Victor Viegas agreed but said Immersion was no mere patent mill. The company, which reported almost $24 million in sales last year, has come to dominate the force feedback market. Its technology is used not only in video games but also in car navigation systems, medical equipment and, soon, cellphones, he said.

    Viegas said Immersion licensed its technology in exchange for a portion of the revenue generated by the products involved — typically 5% of the wholesale price. In its lawsuit, it asked for nearly $300 million, or 5% of the more than $5 billion that Sony collected on PlayStation products in the 2 1/2 years leading up to the trial.

    After the jury awarded $82 million, or about 1.4% of the PlayStation sales, Wilken ordered Sony to pay Immersion the same percentage of its sales from July 1, 2004, on. Later, she awarded Immersion $8.7 million in interest.

    Immersion acquired the two patents at issue in the Sony case through its purchase of Virtual Technologies Inc. in August 2000. Although the patents were not granted until 2001 and 2002, Virtual Technologies had filed for them in 1996 and published them in 1997, before Sony put its disputed technology into the PlayStation consoles, controllers and games.

    Analyst Michael Pachter of Wedbush Morgan Securities in Los Angeles said Sony was expected to sell 5 million to 7 million PlayStation 2s this year and make $40 to $45 per unit. Given how much PlayStation contributes to the bottom line, he said, Sony is likely to strike a deal with Immersion if it loses its appeal.

    "There's no way Sony stops selling PS2s," Pachter said.

    Immersion shares rose 55 cents, or 9.6%, to $6.30 on Nasdaq. Sony shares were unchanged at $41.16 on the New York Stock Exchange."



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    Posted By: ekeboo
    Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 10:12pm

    Im not a registered user.? Nintendo All the WWWaAAaaaayyyy!

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    Posted By: Panda Man
    Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 10:13pm
    Yea I heard about this today...


    All I can say is....

    HA-HA!


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    Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
    Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 10:13pm
    Originally posted by ekeboo ekeboo wrote:


    Im not a registered user.?


    .....


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    Posted By: ekeboo
    Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 10:14pm

    Dats what it says on the webpage

     



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    Posted By: Hysteria
    Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 10:16pm
    Playstation as in the entire platform, or PS1?


    Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
    Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 10:16pm
    copy and paste the article

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    Posted By: Panda Man
    Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 10:19pm
    ^ just the ps2.

    it infringes on the Rumbleing thing in the controler its stupid, but hehehe... its funny to see how pathetic people are getting to get rich.


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    Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
    Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 10:22pm
    The resale value is going to be great.

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    Posted By: Panda Man
    Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 10:32pm
    Well i better go buy a Rubling PS2 Controler, save it for a year, then sell it on ebay and get $100 of it. 

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    Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
    Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 10:44pm
    they have to pull off the whole console just for the controllers? what about online servers?

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    Posted By: Glassjaw
    Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 11:01pm
    This world sucks.  Lets move to another.

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    Posted By: TruePaintballer
    Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 11:05pm
    bloody hell Sony is the best of the 3 consoles.

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    Posted By: Panda Man
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 12:06am
    There just stop production of the Controlors, and the PS2 packages that contain Controlors. 

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    Posted By: bravecoward
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 12:08am

    and all 47 games that use the rumble feature

    SP of the gaming idustries



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    Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 12:11am
    Originally posted by TruePaintballer TruePaintballer wrote:

    bloody hell Sony is the best of the 3 consoles.


    Umm No?

    Xbox owns ps2.  I have both a ps2 and a xbox.  Xbox has better graphics, newer, and it has better games.  PS2 is old.


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    Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 12:21am
    Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

    There just stop production of the Controlors, and the PS2 packages that contain Controlors. 


    They're going to have to stop the production of ps2s.  What are the players going to play with?  Hopes and dreams?


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    Posted By: Panda Man
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 12:31am
    ^ Existing Controlors.


    Xbox = More Money for Bill Gates to take over the world.


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    Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 1:00am
    Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

    ^ Existing Controlors.


    Xbox = More Money for Bill Gates to take over the world.



    He deserves it for making the best console



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    Posted By: shiftykyle101
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 7:44am
    xbox>PS2


    Posted By: Menohl
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 8:43am
    worse comes to worse they will just stop making rumbeling controllers...

    It wont' stop them from making playstations

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    Posted By: Funky
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 9:24am
    Actually, as of now, they're not going to stop anything as Sony is waiting on an appeal. 

    It really won't have any effect on the consumer.  Sony is going to end up paying them around 90 million or what not and then end up taking some royalty contract with them.

    Logitech currently uses their technology and pays for the rights, so I imagine Sony will try to work out a similar contract.

    Again, the consumer will not be effected.


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    Posted By: Frozen Balls
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 10:41am
    Originally posted by bravecoward bravecoward wrote:

    and all 47 games that use the rumble feature

    SP of the gaming idustries



    ...?

    Immersion holds the patents, Sony used the technology. Unlike paintball, there is no dispute over who developed the technology.


    Posted By: RavensReturn
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 1:22pm

    Originally posted by Glassjaw Glassjaw wrote:

    This world sucks.  Lets move to another.

    i agree...or better yet since gas costs so much and its a long trip...lets just take over canada...rename it Paintballada...and it becomes the world leader of paintball...we can have paintball wars against other countries and everything



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    Posted By: oreomann33
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 2:31pm
    Nintendo!

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    Posted By: Panda Man
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 2:44pm
    Originally posted by oreomann33 oreomann33 wrote:

    Nintendo!

    SUX!


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    Posted By: Opossum
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 3:17pm
    nintendo doesnt completely suck i love the gamecube they just have a stupid CEO who doesnt invest in any really good games

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    Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 3:17pm
    all you ps2's haters just wait til ps3 comes out...i have an xbox and ps2 and I agree that I like xbox a lot more but remember the xbox came out after the ps2...the ps3 is gonna knock xbox 2 outa the ballpark

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    Posted By: Hitman
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 4:02pm
    This is just a small needle in the metaphorical hay stack named "Sony".

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    Posted By: nforcer4
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 4:10pm
    heard about it a couple days ago friend showed me.


    Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 4:23pm
    Originally posted by :ShockeR_ratm: :ShockeR_ratm: wrote:

    the ps3 is gonna knock xbox 2 outa the ballpark


    I serously doubt that.


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    Posted By: Lawless
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 4:56pm

    Hey!

    I just sent a whole shipment of cheese to Immersion via whambulance.

    (With a lil bit of C-4 too but keep that on the DL!)

    Oh and XBOX owns!

    XBOX 2's comin' out this fall...yum!



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    Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
    Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 9:24pm
    Originally posted by Ilovepaintball1 Ilovepaintball1 wrote:

    Originally posted by :ShockeR_ratm: :ShockeR_ratm: wrote:

    the ps3 is gonna knock xbox 2 outa the ballpark


    I serously doubt that.


    do some research on the two and then say that


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    Posted By: Fatman Lash
    Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 8:28am
    Originally posted by Lawless Lawless wrote:

    Hey!


    I just sent a whole shipment of cheese to Immersion via whambulance.


    (With a lil bit of C-4 too but keep that on the DL!)


    Oh and XBOX owns!


    XBOX 2's comin' out this fall...yum!

    wrong. PS3 is coming out next fall. Microsoft will wait once again so that way people will have the cash after the explosion of the PS3.

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    Posted By: Lawless
    Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 8:17pm
    Originally posted by Fatman Lash Fatman Lash wrote:

    Originally posted by Lawless Lawless wrote:

    Hey!


    I just sent a whole shipment of cheese to Immersion via whambulance.


    (With a lil bit of C-4 too but keep that on the DL!)


    Oh and XBOX owns!


    XBOX 2's comin' out this fall...yum!

    wrong. PS3 is coming out next fall. Microsoft will wait once again so that way people will have the cash after the explosion of the PS3.

    Hey!

    http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/7849191.htm - pwn3d

    Microsoft leaks details on Xbox Next


    PLANS REFLECT HARD-FOUGHT BATTLE WITH SONY FOR GAMERS' DOLLARS

    By Dean Takahashi

    Mercury News

    Microsoft has quietly circulated the specifications for its next-generation Xbox video-game console, indicating how the company plans to carry on its war against dominant player Sony.

    The details suggest Microsoft is far more concerned about keeping the cost of its Xbox Next console low than it is with including dazzling technological features or driving its rivals out of the business, according to a variety of industry sources.

    People familiar with Microsoft's strategy say the company apparently believes it can capture a much larger share of the market if it launches its machine before Sony fields its PlayStation 3 console in 2006.

    A Microsoft spokeswoman declined to comment on strategy details.

    The new Xbox reflects some tough lessons learned in the current console battle, in which Sony has outsold Microsoft 5 to 1. The Xbox has put Microsoft on the map with a generation of gamers. But it has also been a money loser, albeit a relatively small one for a company with $53 billion in cash.

    Microsoft launched its Xbox console 20 months after the PlayStation 2 debut. By the time Microsoft sold 1.5 million consoles, Sony had sold more than 20 million PlayStations. To date, Microsoft has sold 13.7 million Xboxes, while Sony has sold more than 70 million. In the United States alone, console sales amounted to $3 billion in sales last year.

    For gamers, the new Xbox will be impressive, giving them the ability to play fast-action, realistic 3-D games on a high-definition TV set. Microsoft's emissaries have told industry developers and publishers that the next Xbox will be ready to launch in fall 2005 with the following specifications:

    • Three IBM-designed 64-bit microprocessors. The combined power of these chips means the Xbox Next will have more computing power than most personal computers. Earlier versions of these PowerPC chips are used in Apple Computer's high-end G5 PowerMac machines now.

    • A graphics chip designed by ATI Technologies with speeds much faster than its upcoming R400 chip for the personal computer. This chip will help the next Xbox to display games with the resolution of high-definition TV.

    • Compatibility with the original Xbox, which is based on Intel and Nvidia chips, isn't guaranteed. Microsoft is concerned it would cost too much money in hardware or in licensing fees to enable the Xbox Next to play old Xbox games. This is risky in part because Sony's strategy has been to maintain compatibility with its old consoles.

    ``I can't imagine that Microsoft would be so insanely stupid as to make it incompatible,'' said Jon Peddie, an analyst at Jon Peddie Research in Tiburon.

    Microsoft is leaving itself wiggle room to react to competitive moves by Sony and Nintendo. A few details are to be decided. In contrast with the current Xbox, the next one will have no hard disk drive -- unless Sony puts one in the PlayStation 3. Instead, the console will rely on flash memory to store saved games and permanent data, much like the current PlayStation 2.

    The machine also will have about 256 megabytes of dynamic random access memory. But Microsoft will upgrade that to 512 megabytes if Sony puts in more. The previous Xbox had 64 megabytes. And lastly, it isn't clear if Microsoft will include the current DVD video technology or Blu-Ray, its successor. Blu-Ray will hold much more data, but it's unclear when it will be ready for market.

    The current Xbox has an eight-gigabyte hard disk drive. That drive is useful for online games and storing game art, but many developers chose not to make use of it. As a result, Microsoft seems to have decided that saving the $50 the hard drive costs outweighs its benefits.

    In telling the developers what will be in the box, Microsoft is helping them get started on games that will be ready when the console launches. But it is also soliciting feedback, and some developers are pushing Microsoft to make changes.

    ``I would really like to see a hard disk drive in the box,'' said Tim Sweeney, chief executive officer of Epic Games in Raleigh, N.C., who has made his opinions known to Microsoft. ``For a console to really have a useful online component, it has to have the hard drive to store downloaded maps and other data.''

    Sweeney says it is dangerous for Microsoft to wait until Sony reveals the details of the PlayStation 3 or to pay too much attention to cost issues.

    ``Sony isn't as motivated to launch a new console because it is No. 1,'' he said. ``If Microsoft waits for them, it is in effect allowing Sony to design Microsoft's box.''

    Regarding cost issues, a Microsoft spokeswoman would only say, ``Microsoft is in this for the long term.''

    Developers like Sweeney say they are pleased it will be apparently easy to develop games for Microsoft's new box. That was one of the main advantages that Microsoft has had over its rivals. Current information about the PlayStation 3, sketchy as it is, indicates that it could be extremely difficult for developers to master.

    The top executives of both Electronic Arts and Activision said this week that they have not received formal ``software development kits'' from Microsoft yet, but they did say they have begun creating next-generation games. Internally, Microsoft has begun developing game prototypes, and it is using G5 systems to do so.

    The same developers who have seen the Microsoft specifications say Sony hasn't shared as much data with them. Sony appears to be willing to wait until 2006, in part so that it can milk the profits from the current generation PlayStation 2. In the meantime, Sony is launching an all-in-one PS 2/video recording box dubbed the PSX and the PlayStation Portable.

    Microsoft's schedule may change -- it has a big meeting coming up for developers this month. But for now it appears it will release information about the new box at both the Game Developers Conference in San Jose in March and at the Electronic Entertainment Expo in Los Angeles in May.



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    Posted By: Hitman
    Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 8:24pm
    ^^^
    Can't see it, don't want to register.


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    Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
    Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 8:27pm
    Originally posted by Lawless Lawless wrote:

    Originally posted by Fatman Lash Fatman Lash wrote:

    Originally posted by Lawless Lawless wrote:

    Hey!


    I just sent a whole shipment of cheese to Immersion via whambulance.


    (With a lil bit of C-4 too but keep that on the DL!)


    Oh and XBOX owns!


    XBOX 2's comin' out this fall...yum!

    wrong. PS3 is coming out next fall. Microsoft will wait once again so that way people will have the cash after the explosion of the PS3.

    Hey!

    http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/7849191.htm - pwn3d



    Copy and paste.


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    Posted By: travis75
    Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 8:34pm

    Originally posted by Ilovepaintball1 Ilovepaintball1 wrote:

    Originally posted by :ShockeR_ratm: :ShockeR_ratm: wrote:

    the ps3 is gonna knock xbox 2 outa the ballpark


    I serously doubt that.

    I "serously" doubt that you have a brain.

     



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