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Topic: Death in 2012, christianity(sp?)
Posted By: 2k4kev
Subject: Death in 2012, christianity(sp?)
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 9:49pm
So I was watching the Space channel and they had this show called "Beyond", basically it was about the prediction of the end of the world in around 2012. They were talking about the predictions of the myans(sp?), and others people, but most importantly the bible. They say that they've decoded predictions from the bible of siginifacant(sp) historic events that have happened. Another prediction was the end of the world. So I was thinking, what if it doesnt happen, does this question the whats written in the bible, could some of it be false?



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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 9:51pm
Christianity has been proven wrong many times before. I don't see it dieing....

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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 9:53pm
If the world ends, the world ends.

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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 9:53pm

Oh yes, the Bible Code.....phffffffftb. Its pretty cool stuff, but I think its just a bunch of malarcy.

However I would be interested in the mayan prediction. There has been alot of giant storms, volcanoes, and earthquakes latly.



Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 9:55pm
Way to mix the mayan calender idea with the vauge writtings of armageddon in the bible . . .

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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 10:06pm
Vauge? I think the bible goes into pretty good detail about what our loving god will do to us if we don't submit....

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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 10:07pm
Well, it doesn't mean the Bible is wrong. (In fact it's right)

Just that we suck at decoding it.


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Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 10:09pm
Originally posted by Bolt3 Bolt3 wrote:

Well, it doesn't mean the Bible is wrong. (In fact it's right)

Just that we suck at decoding it.
No. The bible is bs..


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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 10:11pm
Well, if "they" said so, I don't see how we can possibly doubt it.


Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 10:12pm
Originally posted by .Ryan .Ryan wrote:

Vauge? I think the bible goes into pretty good detail about what our loving god will do to us if we don't submit....


The bible is very vauge on the specific date . . .


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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 10:13pm
Originally posted by Apu Apu wrote:

Originally posted by Bolt3 Bolt3 wrote:

Well, it doesn't mean the Bible is wrong. (In fact it's right)

Just that we suck at decoding it.
No. The bible is bs..


Have you died? No. Good.

EDIT: I have no idea why or what this has any point to do with the Bible.


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Posted By: RenegadeGopher
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 10:33pm
they also said 666 months from the drop of the atomic bomb, well, that was september 03. so no,


Religion is full of lies.


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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 10:34pm
For everyone with "faith" in the bible: People had "faith" in Hitler too.

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Posted By: TruePaintballer
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 10:38pm
um they predict...no man can even begin to understand God's plan

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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 10:46pm
Marty McFly and Dr. Emmett Brown already proved that wrong when they went back to the future to 2015. Things looked as if the world hadnt ended to me.

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Posted By: rancidpnk13
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 10:56pm
Originally posted by .Ryan .Ryan wrote:

For everyone with "faith" in the bible: People had "faith" in Hitler too.


faith is a powerful thing, just because some people had faith in Hitler doesn't mean the same thing for people who have faith in the bible.

I'm an athiest by the way, but don't discredit someone else's faith based on the past.

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Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 11:05pm
I read somewhere they put alot of great weather/geometric events into a computer, and it created a predictons chart for the years to come. It was stopped at 2012.  a couple of ideas where world destruction or time travel....

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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 11:13pm
anyone heard about that movie series "super volcano" or sumthin? about old faithful (the geyser in yellow stone) having a massive eruption based on latest predictions of leading scientists? thats sumthin to think about huh

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Posted By: paintballman_13
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 11:19pm
Wow lots of religious people here.


Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 11:26pm
if i go around killing everyone, does that count as the end of the world?

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 30 March 2005 at 11:33pm
I dont think the Human race will not just "Stop".

I dont see us Human Dying out EVER... were too.. "Infestive" to stop. By the time this world is completly destroyed either by polution or Nuclear War, we will already have established a new Colony on Mars or somthing, we will also have estblished a "Clean Burning Fuel" much like a cold-fusion theory, but without all the science-fiction blended in it...  We will most likely also establish just one ruler, because the Human race works much more efficent off just one ruler, we've been doing it for thousands of years now... and will mostlikely will still be using it till this "God" character decides our time is up, and the four horsemen will run rampit or w/e happens... 

I dont see the Human Race ever just "Stoping" we will live on forever, weither it be threw Evolution, or some type of medomorphic-physical change.



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Posted By: ekeboo
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 12:17am
The world will sometime be destroyed in a million years or in one minute who knows.

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Posted By: Large Unit
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 12:21am
For as long as we have been on this planet people have been predicting the end, I have seen so many tv shows with facts about how the world is going to end, most of the dates have already passed without anything happening. I don't even flinch at these predictions anymore, besides if something does happen we will either be in the afterlife which is suppost to be better than here, or we won't have to worry about it, or anything.


Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 12:30am
Always remember this...

Tomarrow will come becasue its already Sunrise downunder(Australia)..


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Posted By: Fatman Lash
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 7:18am
For people who dont know about the tribulation. Its states that it will start with the rapture. All people who ar saved wil simply vanish to the unsaveds eyes. The there will start a 7 year tribulation. In those 7 years there will be judgments and test. The Anti-Christ will rise and fall. At the end of those 7 years humanity will die. Satan will be locked away in the gates of hell again and God will rebuild Heaven and Earth and life will start all over again. The bible has been proven right more times then wrong. And you have to think that how many times the bible has been changed its still very accurate. If you dont believe in the bible, then thats your choice, if you do then awsome for you. I think the Mayans were a smart race, but to predict a year is kinda far fetched. No one knows when the world will end except one person and if ya dont believe in him yippe for you. People are so freaked out right now will all the environmental things happening that there looking for things to proove or disproove. Like the tsunami. That was predicted in the bible from what Ive heard. Now When I see people just go missing in millions and a blood red moon imma go cry in th fedal position

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Posted By: Menohl
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 7:19am
even if the end of the world started in 2012 the bible still says that the end of the world will take 1000 years



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Posted By: chettacheez
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 7:28am
Originally posted by .Ryan .Ryan wrote:

Vauge? I think the bible goes into pretty good detail about what our loving god will do to us if we don't submit....



Dood, please refrain from preaching again.....


Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 10:35am
OMG RUN!!!!


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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 1:29pm
in 2012 all Christians should commit mass suicide. or since suicide is a sin, they should all kill each other.

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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 2:07pm

^^^ thats a sin too.

i aguee with panda.



Posted By: Ilovepaintball1
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 2:28pm
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/endofworld.html - Funny Video.  Warning: Much cussing.

Like the video says, the sun will explode one day killing us, global warming, and a metior will probably hit us.  The human race will probably die out but it won't be for millions of years hopefully.  By then we hopefully will have the technology to live on other planets.


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Posted By: Koolit32
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 2:31pm
Originally posted by Fatman Lash Fatman Lash wrote:

The bible has been proven right more times then wrong.


¿Qué?


Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 2:47pm
Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

in 2012 all Christians should commit mass suicide. or since suicide is a sin, they should all kill each other.


Too late they've been doing that for almost 2000 years now...


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Posted By: nouseforaname
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 3:17pm
Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Marty McFly and Dr. Emmett Brown already proved that wrong when they went back to the future to 2015. Things looked as if the world hadnt ended to me.


hades is right, I saw that documentary too and 2015 just looks swell

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Posted By: Belt #2
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 3:21pm

Originally posted by TruePaintballer TruePaintballer wrote:

um they predict...no man can even begin to understand God's plan

Then why do we believe in god?



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Posted By: Bango
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 3:29pm
The decryptor thing they used to find all these hidden messages in the Bible was used on the book Moby D.ick and they found the same types of things. So unless Moby D.ick was written by God, I think they're decryption thing is faulty.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 3:35pm
Originally posted by Bango Bango wrote:

The decryptor thing they used to find all these hidden messages in the Bible was used on the book Moby D.ick and they found the same types of things. So unless Moby D.ick was written by God, I think they're decryption thing is faulty.


Moby D.ick is in english, they are not using the bible, they are using the torah, and its in hebrew.

But the deffinition of a "year" in the bible has varried several times in the bible, dont put too much stock in things relating to time in the bible.

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Posted By: Bango
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 3:42pm
Still, they found codes in a book that has nothing to do with religion. I could probably write a book right now and they'd manage to find a code in it.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 3:45pm
The odds of finding the date a rabi died of assasination, or the birthplaces of the most prominent rabis, its not a joke, you can do it with any book. But not what they do in the bible code.

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Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 5:01pm
No, my world-destroying death ray will be ready quite a bit before 2012.


Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 5:09pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

The odds of finding the date a rabi died of assasination, or the birthplaces of the most prominent rabis, its not a joke, you can do it with any book. But not what they do in the bible code.


Do you have a link to info about that stuff? It seems interesting.


Posted By: 98c Dude13
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 5:11pm
 Well the worl shouldn't destroy now because god made humans. Also god made dinosaurs and raptors, he let them live for millions until the big bang. Hopefully the big bang won't happen to us for millions of years to come because by then we could live in space.

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Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 5:12pm
Originally posted by 98c Dude13 98c Dude13 wrote:

 Well the worl shouldn't destroy now because god made humans. Also god made dinosaurs and raptors, he let them live for millions until the big bang. Hopefully the big bang won't happen to us for millions of years to come because by then we could live in space.


What? dinosaurs and raptors and big bangs!!! Oh my!


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 5:13pm
Originally posted by Frozen Balls Frozen Balls wrote:

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

The odds of finding the date a rabi died of
assasination, or the birthplaces of the most prominent rabis, its not a
joke, you can do it with any book. But not what they do in the bible
code.


Do you have a link to info about that stuff? It seems interesting.


You can just look up "Bible code" and "Cities experement" Thats what its called i believe.

K found soemthing good.

http://www.mayim.edu/thought/biblecodes.html - Bible Codes

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Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 5:13pm
God loves dinosaurs more then us, it's a scientific fact.

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Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 5:30pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Originally posted by Frozen Balls Frozen Balls wrote:

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

The odds of finding the date a rabi died of
assasination, or the birthplaces of the most prominent rabis, its not a
joke, you can do it with any book. But not what they do in the bible
code.


Do you have a link to info about that stuff? It seems interesting.


You can just look up "Bible code" and "Cities experement" Thats what its called i believe.

K found soemthing good.

http://www.mayim.edu/thought/biblecodes.html - Bible Codes


Thanks, I found these, also.

http://cs.anu.edu.au/%7Ebdm/dilugim/secrets.html - Refuting the study...

http://www.torahcodes.co.il/sim_hb.htm - ...more

Obviously all of the above are biased. I don't know how valid they are, I'm not really a judge of such things.

edit: I'm still reading through your link, and am just now gettign to the experiment part.

edit again: So they performed another experiment using the perioditic table, which has no codes within genesis apparently. What does this have to do with 2012? They seem confused. Unless I am.

edit(yes another one): http://www.torahcodes.co.il/ - this site has the original experiment and refutation...


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 5:39pm
Ooooh, well in the bible codes, if you look up, "Apocolypse" and "Armagedon" You find a matrix that says. "It will wipe the earth" and "No one will be spared" and "It came in the year 2012" other strange saying, these arent the exact sayings, but they are like what you would find. But what you have to remember, we are reading from the tora, so.. we must asume the years would be consistant with the jewish calaneder, wich is different from the calender we are acustomed to.

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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 5:42pm

Wow.

That's all I can say.  Wow.



Posted By: Lawless
Date Posted: 31 March 2005 at 8:00pm

What!?

The world's not ending until 2012...dammit!

Guess I have to try a little harder from now on...I was hoping for at least 2010.



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Posted By: AdmiralSenn
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 12:34am
From what I see, and I may have missed one, all the comments regarding Christianity directly (ie "it states this" or "it's wrong because of this") have been either blatantly wrong or downright stupid, and most were both.

Can we please agree to not post biased crap in these discussions? Having people going "I'm right!" "No, I'm right!" "Well, you're retarded and God is fake, so there!" doesn't accomplish anything.

And here I thought this thread had potential. When I'm feeling less annoyed I'll comb through it again.. maybe.

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