R.I.P John Paul II
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Topic: R.I.P John Paul II
Posted By: Panda Man
Subject: R.I.P John Paul II
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 1:32pm
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Well I'm watching the St. Peters Rosary Service, and its only a matter
of time before he passes... You have to admit, either you have faith or
no faith at all there probably wont be any Pope like him, for a very
long time...
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 1:35pm
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people die. Even the pope, big deal, he's old. ------------- 
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Posted By: BLand
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 1:36pm
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Yeah, I don't see it as a big shock. It was expected.
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Posted By: Bauerp0weR 18
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 1:36pm
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I heard he was dead or something on the radio when I was comming back from my proshop...
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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 1:37pm
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hes still alive. but he was a good man. |
Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 1:39pm
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wow, some of you guys need to get some cooth in your life... -------------
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Posted By: newport
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 1:45pm
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CoUth is in the eye of the beholder. Inappropriate humor is ALWAYS appropriate. ------------- 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 1:56pm
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No need to be needlessly offensive. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors"> 
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Posted By: newport
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 2:07pm
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Said the guy with the "douche" sig?
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 2:20pm
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Whos the next pope going to be?
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Posted By: xteam02001
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 2:26pm
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last thread about this got locked. Why would you make another one? anyways, its really sad. He is a good person. I hope he will die while he is still unconscience so he will feel no pain ------------- 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 2:29pm
Sammy was trying to be a smart ass by quoting me and putting the same sig picture and avatar as me, hence, the word douche. And ever since i put it there, i have noticed the word has been used a lot more on the forum. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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newport wrote:Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 2:36pm
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you guys... Stop this squabbling its pointless... The New Pope has to be elected, its not going to be anounced till April 20th-25th. The 117 Cardinals must be locked into this room, and look over all the nominee's to be elected, and they go threw each one, talk about there pro's, and there con's then on the 14th or 15th day(cant remember) they all Vote for the one they think is the best suited, and if there is some sort of tie or whatever I think they just have a majority Vote, and who ever gets the most becomes the new Pope. Some say it'll be one from Africa, becasue of how huge the Church is growing there, others think it'll be another Italian... No one can Really know for sure yet... I just hope this new one can mesure up the current one. -------------
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Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 2:39pm
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It will be a sad day to remember
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Posted By: 636andy636
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 2:40pm
| it would be funny if the pope desides to change religion |
Posted By: xteam02001
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 2:42pm
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isn't John Paul II polish? -------------
Jesus Christ, why don't you come save my life. Open my eyes and blind me with your light and your lies. |
Posted By: Dazed
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 2:44pm
| Isn't this the Pope that let Priests keep their station in the church until they were convicted of child molestation, rather than removing them from postition as soon as they were accused? And isn't this the Pope that said even the convicted pervs wouldn't be punished by the church? |
Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 2:46pm
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Yes he is. It doesn't matter your Ethnic backround as long as you are Catholic(duh), and are atleast a Bishop I belive, and they are elected threw that lock-door thing, and who ever gets the most votes becomes the new Pope. -------------
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Posted By: 636andy636
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 2:46pm
| if the pope is dieing why wont god save him |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 2:50pm
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He was a good man. ------------- 
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Posted By: xteam02001
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 2:58pm
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you dont get it.
i was refering to your statement that there might be another italian pope, when the current pope is polish. -------------
Jesus Christ, why don't you come save my life. Open my eyes and blind me with your light and your lies. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 4:15pm
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Boy, the Vatican sure pulled a fast one on you. APRIL FOOLS!!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 4:18pm
yeah he is. well, was. now hes dead. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 4:40pm
| I don't consider him great or wonderful. He's a figurehead, much like the Queen of England. He may have some pull with devout Catholics, but his authority does not spread much. He did not do anything about the molestation, only to push it aside. Even our own government didn't listen to him when he denounced the war in Iraq. Death is always sad, but he is just another person to me. |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 5:04pm
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Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 5:14pm
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Even if you don'e believe anything he says, he was still an incredible person.
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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 5:20pm
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Well, considering he is the only pope to be invited to the white house like, ever. (he was invited by George bush, who is in fact a religious fanatic, if you don't think he is, then you should educate yourself on his past and improve your understanding of what a religious fanatic is) George pretty much was just floored and did everything the pope asked him to do. In an interview after the Pope's visit all Bush talked about was the Pope. Now, if the pope has enough "pull" with the president of the United States, then you would think he'd have enough pull with other people. Besides, he didn't travel around the world a dozen times just to spread religion, if there was a big catastrophe, then he would go and hole service for the suffering people and pray with them. Of course, he did it with a lot of security and almost no one there, but he was still a great humanitarian, so, he is more than "just another person" to me and to a lot of other people, and I'm not even religious ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 5:33pm
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What is the big deal with one religious fanatic inviting another to the White House?
Many celebrities and sports stars go to the White House. Big deal. And just because Bush cant make decisions for himself doesnt make the man whispering in his ear great. The pope didnt do anything a four year-old couldn't do. You may see the things that he did as wonderful but I see things that he did/endorsed as harmful to humanity. -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 5:34pm
| The pope came outright against the war. If he is a religious fantatic, I think he would have listened to the pope on that issue. Just because he was invited doesn't make him a god either. |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 5:36pm
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okay, fair enough, like i said, I'm not a church-going person, but i think its good the pope is around for other people. It gives people hope, and if it can keep someone from doing something stupid like going into the nearest Am/Pm and shooting everyone, then its good enough for me. I'm a strong believer in religion was made to control people, but whatever floats your boat. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 5:43pm
| I never said he wasn't useful, only that he is not as powerful as people make him out to be. There are more people that do not follow his word in this world than those who do or those who "say they do." Everyone can have their leader, that is fine, but the media coverage is ridiculous. |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 5:49pm
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I'm gald to see most of you who don't believe in Religion or whatever are mature enough to admit John Paul II was a good person. Hades your a different story. Ive never seen such a one sided person before. Reall, it's pathetic. The Pope isn't a figure head. He controls the ENTIRE Roman Catholic church (Billions of people). I believe it was this Pope that brought the changes of Vatican II. Anyone here that knows somthing about the slightly past religious days will know what I'm talking about. The Pope always visited disaster sites, prayed for those in need, and helped where ever he could. Now he's 84, and his heart and kidneys are failing. Are you surprised he can't do much anymore? He's has Parkinsons disese I believe (or somthing similar) He's a tough guy. He was even shot once in the chest. He went to the guy who shot him and forgave him. It takes guts to do that. (the man who shot him was so shocked he cried) As a kid Catholics were persecuted and he helped have Mass in a basement and moved people in and out when gaurds weren't looking.To go through all that, and be able to live till 84 is pretty amazing. And there's much more to this man than just that. ------------- 
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Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 5:54pm
Its Mr. Bush, George Bush, oe Mr. President. Don't call him "George"
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 5:55pm
| I have to agree with Hades on this. It's not that he doesn't have a good heart and isn't a good person. I think people are giving him too much credit for a man that was given the position of power and is almost expected to do many of those things. It kind of reminds me when Reagan died and people actually called him the "greatest President ever." I was simply floored. |
Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 5:56pm
Why? George "g-dubbya" bush just rolls off the tongue. ------------- 
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 5:56pm
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One sided? Haha.
Hmmm... Lets see who is one sided: http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/29/newsid_2975000/2975206.stm - Pope renews birth control ban
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Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 5:57pm
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Read up on this Pope's history. He did alot. Considering your not Catholic or care about religion I'm not surprised you don't know all the stuff he did. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 5:59pm
| Who said I don't know what the pope did. I happen to pay attention to many of the events of his life, but it doesn't make him the "greatest ever." Plenty of people devote their life and all the money they can scrounge to helping people, it's not their faults they didn't get elected into a Power Position. I can't come to follow someone that still considers birth control a sin, it's too old fashioned. |
Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:01pm
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im guesing he dies at 11:59:59, old popes never die..........they're livers fail and they just fade away
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Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:02pm
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Im curious about your sig. Christ's REAL Passion did have a good ending.
As for the birth cotrol issue, yeah your right. But everyone isn't perfect. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:03pm
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My sig is meant to be a joke. It's already been discussed as I am not referring to Christ's coming back from the dead. Anyways, I refuse to put so much emphasis on somone by calling them the "greatest." I've always felt that some people are made to be bigger than they really are. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:04pm
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Your right I dont know any of the "good things" he did. Quiet frankly I dont care. But I do know that there are billions of dollars being wasted on fancy buildings/churches, religious costumes, tv events, molestation payoffs, all in the name of God, that can be filling mouths or curing AIDS. -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:05pm
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Churches also don't pay taxes, that doesn't seem like they are helping the public by putting money back into it. |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:07pm
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They pay... -Employees (such as many of my family) -Electric Bill -Heating Bill -Books, computers, etc for students -Building Up Keep -Food -Need I go on? -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:09pm
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sorry to double posy, but you also forgot helping the poor. My church sent 27,000 for Tsunami relief and thousands to local poor people every year. We even give them Thankgiving food. Common, not helping the people? Give me a break. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:09pm
So does every other business. -------------
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:09pm
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Now that this is brought up, it would be interesting to see the money figures on what the catholic church as spent on the molestation payoffs vs. what they donated to good causes over the past 5 years. -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:09pm
So do I. Yet I also pay income taxes, property taxes, sin taxes (although understandable for the sin tax). |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:13pm
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Get over the molestation crap. What is that, less than 1% of priests? Our diocese (northern Jersey) Gives MILLIONS to Charities every year (Including AIDS) The Catholic church gives Billions to Charities. I don't know why you can't get this through your heads. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:16pm
| Because I refuse to worship men, and what other men tell me is the way. |
Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:16pm
Bill Gates gives millions to charities too.  -------------
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Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:17pm
I have caught a big mistake you made. Yes, every buissiness pays this stuff, but we don't sell products thus there is no profit. All collection money goes to Employment, Charities, Upkeep of Parish property, Bills, Parish Improvement. They arent getting "richer" or keeping the money for themselves. Priests have a set Salary and it is very very low. I am very involved in my Parish and I am very aware of our Financial situation. We even publish a little handbook showing where all money goes to. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:17pm
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Shouldnt they be giving all of it to the needy? Since that is why it was collected in the first place?
Right, their not selling salvation,,,,, 
I can think of at least 100 million in molestation verdicts, I am sure the number is way higher.... Where does that fit into the fancy payout booklet? -------------
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:19pm
| Wow, because the catholic churches around here seem to be loaded. The priests drive Benzes or Cadillacs. Maybe that's just your church. |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:22pm
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Hades, we have a very good Envelope system so people know exactally where their money is going. Some are labled as "Weekly offering" In this are two envelopes, the first one goes to the Church for it's expenses, the second goes to different Charities. Yeah, we probably would give all the money to the charities but guess what? Running a Parish isn't free. There are still Bills, wages etc. to pay. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:24pm
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Priests get a salary from the diocese, thus they can afford cars. And since they have no families there isnt mch expenses for them. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:24pm
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http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/c003aht.htm - A 200 million dollar church is needed, why? -------------
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Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:30pm
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You know what? I don't feel like ruining this thread thus I am leaving. Hades obviously you are clueless when it comes to running Churches and schools. I don't need to read any of your biased articles either. You don't go to church or care about it. I do, work there, and know how the money system works. If there is a greedy church it's the mormons. They make you apy 10% of your salary. Your not forced to pay anything in a Catholic church. You make it seem like running a church is free. Look at it this way. We spent like 15,000 on Janitorial supplies alone last year to make sure the school is clean and healthy for the kids. Costs are great in a Parish, and even though there is all this to pay, we always make an effort to help the poor, even if it put us into debt for a while (which it has more than twice) I can't get into your closed minded head and Im not ruining this thread so Good Bye. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:37pm
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Haha. I was going to step out too when I realised this thread had gone from bashing the pope to bashing the catholic church.
At least the Mormons dont have the crusades in their history nor do they have child molesting priests. I dont care what a church does with it money, but for church leaders to make judgement on other people's lives and decision is the name of "GOD," I feel that is wrong. -------------
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Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:40pm
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Yeah lets leave it at that.
and btw, you just never hear about mormon priests molesting kids, dosent mean it never happens. Same with any church, or school, or even buissiness. Catholics are always picked on. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 6:48pm
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I have an idea of which side I would be lining up for in this debate, but can someone satiate my curiousity? Do non-profit organizations pay taxes? ------------- __________________ __________________ |
Posted By: nforcer4
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 7:03pm
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meh with death  theres life |
Posted By: Impulsive
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 7:10pm
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I'm disgusted at how juvenile you guys act. Show respect. ------------- Cockers are like stick shifts, after a few transmissions you get the hang of them. |
Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 7:28pm
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Join several of us at PBC in playing Stairway to Heaven for the pope.
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 7:31pm
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I am showing respect, I just refuse to worship this man. Ejp, I do not believe non-profit organizations pay taxes, such as the YMCA; however, I am not completely sure. |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 7:47pm
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*Clears throat*
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