Flatline Sniper Barrel
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Topic: Flatline Sniper Barrel
Posted By: Bozo The First
Subject: Flatline Sniper Barrel
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 11:21pm
I have to do this for a science project...  And I have to figure out how Tippmann was able to make the paintballs for the flatline barrel backspin...  and why making the paintballs backspin will make them go further...  If you know please post to this fourm...------------- I Hate Mondays, I Have To Wake Up ON A MONDAY Just To Think How My Week Is Going To Go, But Then Again All Of My Days Go Like That... |
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Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 11:24pm
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It creates a magnetic field, but not as great of one as the Super-Chromium's...
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 11:24pm
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read the stickies in the new player forum and upgrades and customizing,
also read the description under the item in tippmanns merchandise
section
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Posted By: Badonka
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 11:25pm
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Like, how is the entire post that you wrote about a science project, yet the poll is about buying one? ------------- Who happens to still be too immature to post on this forum. Good Bye. |
Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 11:30pm
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backspin causes the friction of the balls surface against the air...this friction causes the ball to climb up, countering the effects of gravity, much like a slider (sinker? dont remeber) does in baseball hope this helps a little, its kinda weak |
Posted By: Badonka
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 11:37pm
everything minus the completely wrong baseball analogy... ------------- Who happens to still be too immature to post on this forum. Good Bye. |
Klaus wrote:Posted By: Badonka
Date Posted: 01 April 2005 at 11:38pm
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and even that sucked.
the friction on the BARREL is what makes the balls spin. not the frickin friction (hehe, fun to say) of the air... where did that come from? ------------- Who happens to still be too immature to post on this forum. Good Bye. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 12:27am
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Stop lying to the kid... EJP is full of crap. The barrel creates a barometric field, not a magnetic field. This field essentially creates an air balloon (or air cocoon, to be presise) and the ball floats in this cocoon until the field wears off. Simple. Magnetic field - puh-lease. |
Posted By: WGP guy
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 12:45am
| WGP Flatline Autococker>tippmanns with flatline |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 12:49am
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you guys all need to stop lying to him, look kid no one really knows
HOW they work. All we know is that Tippmann sodomizes lygers with
them, normal barrel when it goes in, flatline with it comes out...don't
question it.
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Posted By: chettacheez
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 10:19am
d00d, your all wrong...Its magic! |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 10:55am
Damn, somebody needs to go smoke another one...you seem a bit cranky. |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 10:58am
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They make is backspin from the curve in the barrel, and the rough texture of the bore somewhat grips the paintball to give it even more backspin, which equals more gravity-fighting and flat-trajectory effect.
I would assume thet the fast backspin creates differences in air pressure which helps the ball fight the effects of gravity. I'm no scientist, I just know the barrel does shoot farther and flater and the backspin is the reason. |
Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 11:13am
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I will put this as simply and bluntly
as possible ... I have three Tippmann markers, and I have Flatlines
installed on two of them.
The third does not simply because it came with a Dye Boomstick, and I am using it exclusively for speedball (E-Bolt 98, shoots like a dream!!!) I cannot play woodsball without a Flatline. When I try to use a non-Flatline equipped marker, I feel as though I am playing with a severe handicap. Granted, it is not for everyone, but if you take the time to get to know how to set it up, how to utilize it, and have any concept as how to aim properly, the Flatline if an awesome upgrade ... PERIOD. There is a lot of crap (bust balls, can't handle high ROF), and it is just that ... CRAP. Ask anyone who has seen my guns in action. ------------- If I flee, kill me If I die, avenge me |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 11:32am
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I have a different experience, but it was with the A5 Flatline.
I bought it, and was not impressed after playing with it a few times....heck I wasn't even impressed when I test fired it. Does it shoot far? Yes. Flat trjectory? Sure. Accuracy? That's debatable! To me, it's just not accurate enough. Maybe it was just because it was the A5 version, maybe mine was defective(ask Kreeper-X), I don't know. All I can say is that I have NEVER seen ANYBODY's flatline shoot as accurately as my LAPCO barrels or any other quality aftermarket barrel for that matter. I mean, let's break things down. Accuracy is about consistency, that's just the way it is. Consistency of paint, barrel, and air source are vital for utmost accuracy. Now, we have all these awesome, standard aftermarket barrels with beatifully honed bores for a reason! The more flawless a bore is the less of a negative effect it will have on accuracy. Now, the inside of the A5 Flatline looks like a nail file! I know it needs grip, and this makes it shoot far, but IME, this also creates accuracy issues. One of my biggest issues with the Flatline is that the gun must be completely Uncanted in order to fire accurately...not the best characteristic for a player like me who loves to shoot on the run. I'm not saying it busts balls or doesn't handle high ROF, because I have the RT on my A5 and never had a problem ripping without breaks...it's just not accurate enough for me, which is the reason i buy a barrel...to shoot a paintball with utmost accuracy, not utmost distance or flattest trajectory. Awesome is relative...the distance and trejectory is kinda awe-insiring, but the accuracy kinda makes them more of a gimmick than characterisitcs of an effective long-range barrel, IMHO. Personally, unless you see the flat trajectory as something you could use consistently, I think the Flatline is overrated. |
Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 11:38am
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Perhaps I have just become so
accustomed to using a Flatline that I expect the shots to move a
certain way, because I have no problems hitting what I aim at.
Plus, it blows minds when you turn your marker on it's side and curve a shot to get an elimination. As stated, it's not for everyone, but too many people expect a miracle in a box and don't take the time to learn the nuances involved with using this barrel properly. They can take my Flatlines when they pry them from my cold, dead hands. Everyone else is free to use what they prefer. ------------- If I flee, kill me If I die, avenge me |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 11:40am
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Just for the record, I don't shoot garbage paint either.
The cheapest stuff I've ever bough was some ProBall that was on sale, and I was buying the real expensive stuff for the FL(Marbs, Stars). My barrel was clean as could be, no worn down spots...I bought it new. It was installed correctly, and I gave it a fair chance....it just didn't work for me, and I could see a lot of players that would feel like I do if they paid $100 on a barrel that isn't effective. There's a lot of little quirks to the barel that must be overcomed/learned in order to use it to the best of it's abilities, and even then they are still downsides that other barrels just don't have. Basically, the Flatline does what it's advertised as doing, shooting farther and flater than any barrel that isn't a Flatline. But those 2 awesome features also come with the bad....it's hard to clean, picky on paint, not accurate as other barrels, and can't be fired in anything but an upright position. For me, those negatives are just something i coudn't deal with, and I didn't find the positive features all that overwhelming or efective. I just kinda get tired of Flatline fans claiming if you don't like it, you did something wrong! The fact is the barrel is for a very specific type of player, and I guess I had to find out the hard way($100) that I was not a Flatline type of player. |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 11:42am
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Yeah, it all comes down to using what you prefer.
But for me, I bought the A5 Flatline and noticed a lot of bad things that the fans seem unwilling to mention, so I would feel bad if I just stayed quiet and didn't speak my mind, and some poor dude wastes his $100 on the same mistake I did. |
Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 11:47am
Not using that as a crutch, but I know
far too many people who have had excellent results with the Flatline,
and helped too many people at fields troubleshoot theirs that had
alignment or seating problems (primarily on the 98 version) to rule
operator malfunction out of the equasion. Granted, the mounting system
on the A-5 makes it basically idiot proof, but sometimes crap DOES
happen ...
I have put some real garbage paint (1 1/2 years old, some of it!!), and never had the problems some people claim to experience.
I agree, and have stated it more than
once in this thread. That is what makes us individuals .... different
wants/needs/preferences. It keeps things from getting stale!!
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 11:48am
the barrels friction makes give the ball backspin, BUT!!! the backspin allows the suface of the ball to climb slightly (yet countered by gravity, so a relatively flat trajectory) in flight due to the friction against the air and yeah, the baseball thing is true, its the friction of the laces on the air, but i dont remeber what pitch it is (the one that doesnt drop so fast...whatever one that is) good luck with your project |
Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 12:06pm
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I used to own a flatline I never had problems with it except for an ocasional break, I shoot pmi premiums. On my 98 c getting the barrel to line up was the only issue I ever had it took some time and alot of figiting to get it lined up straight but when it was it was awsome. There was one advantage that I loved to death...... How you could turn the marker sideways and curve paint around trees..... All it takes is some practice to get used to how to work the barrel and then You have such an edge against so many of the players on the feild. The backspin created from the flat line creates high and low pressure pockets so as the paintball is spinnng clock wize the air on top of the paintball is being sucked to under it which creates a low pressure on top of the paintball and a high pressure area on bottem of it which alows the paintball to rise (thats why when you see a paint ball shot from a flatline go by you it looks like its floating on a cloud of air and looks like its moving really really slow. But that balanced with the oposing force (gravity) allows the paintball to stay in a relitivly flat tragectory. It works much like an air plane wing in high and low pressure ways. ------------- 95 base neon 3.0 cai, knifedged crankshaft 60 mill throttle body,14 crane cam crane springs/retainers eagle rods port matched/ polished intake p&p head shaved .015 phantom grip diff dohc exuast |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 12:09pm
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HwayHzrd, I feel you. I have seen myself all these BS-artists who have an agenda against the Flatline, and rip it while they obviously haven't even laid their hands on one.
I don't want to be known as one of those people! I try and post the good and bad, but for me, the Flatline's advantages pretty simple...it shoots farther and flatter than anything not a Flatline! That sounded good to me, so I bought one. I read all the trouble-shooting threads, gave it it's fair chance, and now I give my opinions on it as an x-owner. It's good that there are people from both sides of the coin to tell their experiences, I'd like to think that we are both changing people's opinions, or at least opening their eyes, in our own respective ways. Anyways, i think the best baseball analogies are the 4-seam(rising) fastball and the bater than gets a bit under the ball when he hits it, giving it backspin. Both have the same efect as a Flatline-fired paintball. |
Posted By: turtleboy267
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 1:27pm
rofl @ that 
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Posted By: Buggy
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 1:57pm
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doesnt the ball leaving the barrel rub up against the top side of it
causing it to spin upwards, and when it leaves the barrel its spinning
backwards, it creates farther disance?
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Posted By: BLand
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 2:02pm
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It doesn't shoot sideways very well
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Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 2:43pm
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yes when it rubs against the top part on that down slop it gives it a clock wize spin ------------- 95 base neon 3.0 cai, knifedged crankshaft 60 mill throttle body,14 crane cam crane springs/retainers eagle rods port matched/ polished intake p&p head shaved .015 phantom grip diff dohc exuast |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 8:05pm
| It's backspin |
Posted By: Bozo The First
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 8:20pm
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good luck with your project [/QUOTE]Thanks ------------- I Hate Mondays, I Have To Wake Up ON A MONDAY Just To Think How My Week Is Going To Go, But Then Again All Of My Days Go Like That... |