sniper, sniper, no sniping
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Topic: sniper, sniper, no sniping
Posted By: unholyking
Subject: sniper, sniper, no sniping
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 9:13pm
who's your daddy now..  [/IMG] www.specialopspaintball.com
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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 9:18pm
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thats not a sniper just a gun on enzyte.... silly ------------- 
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Posted By: CYoungGunA-5
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 9:34pm
ROTFL!!! |
bravecoward wrote:Posted By: PbMuz98
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 9:40pm
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mmmmmmmmmmmm... enzyte ------------- 98c drop j&j ceramic 12" derder sticker on hopper= +2bps |
Posted By: jacob_100
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 9:48pm
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enzyte,enzyte,o ya it was on tv.but ive already seen that gun,and think about carryin that think around -jake ------------- Alot of people these days play speed-ball and have superspeed gun.If you are one of the few pump players left,put this as ur sig. -Phantom 45* grip t-stock 20 round center feed 12 gram changer |
Posted By: stick_boy_2002
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 10:03pm
it couldnt be any worse than carrying around my(according to ups all boxed up) 5.85lbs osiris. thats without a full halo or tank. come to think of it, thats gonna be real fun to carry around all day at the monster game this year. ------------- 
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Posted By: B_Wet A-5
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 10:11pm
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looks sweet but snipers do not exist in this sport. ------------- I need smallers sigs. AVIATOR GANG 
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 10:35pm
| Lame, but novel design, I guess. |
Posted By: R4M-Z3T
Date Posted: 02 April 2005 at 10:49pm
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i dont like it. for that much money ur better off getting one of thoughs kick @$$ A-5's they have with a a flat line. ------------- my A-5 and GX-4 http://img253.echo.cx/my.php?image=cocker70dr.jpg"> 
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Posted By: Sarge14
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 8:23am
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OMG. Now u are deff not a sniper, justa freak who like long barrels. ------------- Nothing is Stronger than the Heart of a Volunteer Proud to be a Soldier in the United States Army! Commo Leads the Way!! |
Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:10am
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wow it looks way to long and probally wood be a pain to carry all day ------------- 
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Posted By: ncbbh88
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 9:27am
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that gun is sooooo light i want one but cant afford the tac one and drop on kit but that would be so fun
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Posted By: Balazs2
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 10:56am
| I actually kind of like it. I mean its for a totally different style of play than what most of us play, but with a stock class harness and that thing, i bet you could hold your own... |
Posted By: ¤ RaVeN ¤
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 1:24pm
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well the gun its all mounted on is pretty nice...the air guns design tac-9 i think it is...or something like that...but with all of that on it...uhhh...i think it would be odd... ------------- 
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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 1:33pm
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you suck at putting pictures on... ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: jacob_100
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 4:59pm
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i ment it would be hard to monuver around in the woods -jake ------------- Alot of people these days play speed-ball and have superspeed gun.If you are one of the few pump players left,put this as ur sig. -Phantom 45* grip t-stock 20 round center feed 12 gram changer |
Posted By: HITMAN 4 HIRE
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 6:16pm
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gives the whole sniping area to paintball a whole new realm. ------------- http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=27278mo.jpg">  Because I can.
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Posted By: paintbusta
Date Posted: 03 April 2005 at 8:46pm
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that this is like a mile long wouldnt want to carry that around ------------- 
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Posted By: bdragon81
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 1:31pm
REACH OUT AND TOUCH SOMEBODY...Honestly though, I would not want to be on business end of that gun. I bet with a gun like that you should be a pretty good sniper....YIKES
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Posted By: CottageCommando
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 2:02pm
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snipers do exist in this sport!!! i dont get why u dont understand what a sniper is! a sniper is an expert marksman that is very skilled with ranged or projectile weapons coming from the snipe hunt someone who could shoot a snipe very well was called a sniper. ------------- Building an Evil Empire... One piece at a time :) |
Posted By: Hella Cool
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 7:18pm
Don't tell that to the 1000s of noobs @ specialopspaintball.com (the people who make that gun.) In their forum, 99% of threads have the word "sniper" in them. "What is the best sniper barrel?" "How can I spend $900 and be a sniper?" They are brainwashed and spending tons of $. |
Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 9:22pm
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Sniper from Webster's dictionary Main Entry: 2snipe notice def. #1, now I know anyone can do that, or has done that. And as for spending lots of $$$ on a scenario gun, its theres to spend, they want the look and feel of a real firearm combined with paintball. There are so many 'speedball' guns that cost twice what a scenario marker would its insane. There just two different styles of play one is not better than the other. |
Posted By: SR_Crewchief
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 6:07am
I see it's time for class again. First some basics need to be established. The game is paintball and for the purposes of this class it is played in the woods where the terrain dictates that you’ll be engaging each other most of the time at between 20 and 25 meters. (In other words close range) It is played most often by 2 opposing sides of roughly equal size. For all intent and purposes this game is modeled on military small unit combat. Now several you are going "whoo hoo, my kind of sniper country"…without knowing what makes a sniper. Many of you have gone to the dictionary and found a reference saying something to the effect that a sniper is someone who fires from concealment and have used this a your basis for your claim to being one in paintball. That's all well and dandy, except you ignore the rest of the definition. snip·er ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sn p r)n. A skilled military shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place. One who shoots at other people from a concealed place. Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth EditionCopyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. Now you’ll note that this expanded definition is still quite general in it scope, after all anyone who squats behind bush to fire is a sniper which is not the case. So, since the dictionary has not resolved this we must consult the experts for a better definition of what makes a sniper in our chosen environment. It happens that I’ve had the opportunity to do just that from time to time in my 22 years in the Army. In summary here are the extreme basics of what is an effective sniper: · A superior marksman · Expert knowledge in the art camouflage for concealment · The ability to approach the target without being detected · Engage the target from beyond effective range of return fire · The ability to engage the target without revealing your position · The ability to egress the area after successfully engaging the target without being positively identified and engaged The first three of these points are possible in the game of paintball, but do not make you a sniper, they just take some training and practice. Let’s look at them one at a time. A superior marksman Basically someone who’s shooting skills are well above that of the average player. No big problem here, skill levels very, some people are just plain better than others. Expert knowledge in the art camouflage for concealment This one is a little tougher. It takes knowledge of what will fool the eye into not seeing what is really there. It’s still doable though. Trained military have an advantage over the someone whose camouflage skills are solely based on hunting. Not because the non-military hunter is any less skilled but because of who the camouflage is intended to fool. But once armed with the knowledge of what the differences are this isn’t even a problem. So, yes this can be effectively applied to paintball. The ability to approach the target without being detected This one is a bigger problem. If just taken as being able to move close enough to a player that is already in place to make your shot undetected is very difficult. Since instinctively humans are hunters, our attention is automatically drawn to movement or things that are out of place. It’s takes someone that is extremely skilled in moving undected to pull this one off. But I have seen it done. I should add to this the ability to setup a position that provides an undetected position from which to shoot that covers an area you expect your opponent to move through. A basic ambush. Both require an undetected shooting position and can be effectively applied to paintball depending on skill level The last three points are where the concept of a sniper in paintball fails. Engage the target from beyond effective range of return fire No matter what you do, as long as everyone has the same approximate muzzle velocity, everyone has about the same effective range. Yes, that means Flatlines too. While Flatlines do have the ability, do to an aerodynamic backspin, shoot farther than other barrel systems the paintball still loses velocity at the same rate. What this means is that a paintball from a flatline loses the energy to break its shell at the same rate as one fired from a conventional barrel. The advantage of the flatline is initial flat trajectory that paintball has, which allows someone to fire under foliage that would otherwise break the ball. (The first failed point in being an effective sniper) The ability to engage the target without revealing your position Since the effective range is around 20-25m means that when you fire you have effectively revealed your general position. What I mean is this. Your shooting from such a close range that either the pop of your ball leaving the barrel or the sound of your bolt cycling (or both) will give your general position away to anyone with average hearing as far away as 40m. Unless you are only engaging 1 or 2 people or are extremely lucking you yourself can now be effectively counted as a mission kill. (The second failed point in being an effective sniper) The ability to egress the area after successfully engaging the target without being positively identified and engaged What this means is the ability move to a new shooting position after having engaged a target without being detected and counter-engaged your self. Since it’s been demonstrated that you can’t effectively engage a target without revealing your initial shooting position and exposing yourself to effective counter fire this one automatically fails. (The third failed point in being an effective sniper) Now just because you can’t effectively apply all of the above tactics of what makes an effective sniper doesn’t mean that the first 3 listed can’t be applied to paintball. Do they make you a sniper? No. But they do give you the ability to setup an effective close ambush. Just a word of advice here, bring along several friends and you might even be effective at it. |
Posted By: nauzerlvr
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 9:47am
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snip·er (sni¯'p?r)
n. 1. A skilled military shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place. 2. One who shoots at other people from a concealed place. ------------- 
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Posted By: newbie527
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 8:12pm
wowow.. ur avatar ... caught my attention... ------------- check out Actionmarkers.com, like any of the guns??? pm me if you want discount. |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 06 April 2005 at 1:30am
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Oh Christ, not again...more of this wannabe Sniper crap! ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition! 
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Posted By: semisniper
Date Posted: 06 April 2005 at 7:30pm
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For anyone who doesn't beilive in the chance that a paintball sniper just might be a little DIFFERENTthan a military sniper I want you to read an article that proved it to me. Go to this supposed brainwashed site at http://www.specopspaintball.com - www.specopspaintball.com and read the article called the True Paintball Sniper. This article basically says that a paintball sniper uses camoflage to take out his/her target to the point where they can take out a group of people w/o being detected.
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Posted By: SR_Crewchief
Date Posted: 06 April 2005 at 9:22pm
Sorry, nothing special there. Cover and concealment while advancing as an element of a team is just the sign of good players and teamwork not a "sniper". Tactics are tactics, those in the article are basic to intermediate at best. |
Posted By: Long Tr'ang
Date Posted: 08 April 2005 at 4:03pm
thats bull**edited** i am a pb sniper at least in woods ball yea i rule cause i gots aim ------------- What Makes The Grass Grow! Blood Blood Blood!!! And What Do We Do For A Living Kill Kill Kill!!! Pro-Carbine J&J cyramic 16' 9 and 12 oz tanks |
Posted By: bluemunky42
Date Posted: 08 April 2005 at 4:25pm
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cottagecommando is an idiot whos with me? snipers dont exist in paintball ------------- 
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 08 April 2005 at 4:25pm
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u godda go get lerned en englishhh b4 u can play pb snipezor honestly |
Posted By: FalloutMan
Date Posted: 08 April 2005 at 6:58pm
no, simply no, dont even try to debate it you are wrong. ------------- "They were convicted in federal court of pennsylvania for a telemarketing scam involving invention and patent fraud." |
Posted By: SR_Crewchief
Date Posted: 08 April 2005 at 7:56pm
Please, before making a statement like this do some research on the subject. Then post from a foundation of information... Not the "oh ya, says you" level of intellect. |
Posted By: xxg-reaperxx
Date Posted: 05 June 2005 at 1:20am
| why dont u guys stop ripping on people for liking a gun u dont approve of or a barrel u dont like. these guys put money into their personel preferance of paintball stuff because of a love of the sport, not to please other people. i see this in all the posts and it makes me sick, i mean just be sportsmanlike about it. |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 05 June 2005 at 1:58am
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No. Don't bump crap like this and expect people to listen to you. |
Posted By: Sentinelz
Date Posted: 05 June 2005 at 2:23am
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'nuff said... and another thing bumping old posts is like eating old cottage cheese... ------------- 
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Posted By: SgtPoisonMiller
Date Posted: 05 June 2005 at 6:54am
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Sniping is indeed possible in paintball. As long as you have an accurate, and quiet barrel, and some way to hide yourself very well. You too, can be a sniper. Sniping doesn't nessessarily mean long range. The reason snipers in general use long range is because they can be a safe distance away. Now, in paintball, there are ambush snipers. Meaning you hide somewhere along a trail, and take out people one by one. You also have to move from place to place to avoid being spotted. Sniping, however, does not exist in speedball. ------------- ------------------ Sgt. Poison Miller ------------------ Current Owner of: A5 w/Remote, 68/45 Crossfire, Flatline, Ricochet R5, Tapco T6 Stock Vforce Shield Standard (Green) ------------------ |
Posted By: BlackDeath7
Date Posted: 05 June 2005 at 2:24pm
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^^ DON'T GO THERE!!! We don't need to start a sniping
debate. You haven't been around long enough to have experienced
the horror of sniper threads.
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